How big (or small) is your main TV
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My OLEDs have always been 55" versions, just find it works well for watching TV.
For films I would be happy with bigger, but for normal TV bigger than 55 I feel is too much.
My bedroom TVs are Sony FALD LCDs in 49", XF9005. Main reason is the uniformity, colour shift at edges etc. starts to be noticeable any bigger than that with lcd based tech.
For films I would be happy with bigger, but for normal TV bigger than 55 I feel is too much.
My bedroom TVs are Sony FALD LCDs in 49", XF9005. Main reason is the uniformity, colour shift at edges etc. starts to be noticeable any bigger than that with lcd based tech.
jsf said:
otherman said:
So back in the days of CRT TVs, most people had screens around the 20" mark. I always reckoned if you're going to watch TV, admit it and get the biggest one you can. I think the biggest CRT I found was 28" and it was a beast. Most people thought I was mad, "why do you need a TV that big" " I hope you've got a really big room to put it in". These days I have 43" and I'm quite happy, while all the people who used to have 14" portables as their main TV now have a video wall half the size of their house. Don't quite get it.
Big CRT was huge money at the time and with the interlacing rate wasn't a fabulous idea for picture quality.Then got a 37" Panny plasma which was also brilliant. That died last year.
Current is 49" Sony LCD. Our living room is 19' x 15' and it's not far off corner to corner from TV to where we sit but it's taken me a year to get used to the size of it.
One thing I don't like is the sound seems to come from somewhere other than the lips of person speaking. Bought a Sonos Beam, which is better but it still bugs me. I can only imagine that'd be worse on a massive TV.
Thanks for all the responses - very helpful.
I'll hypothesis that that question is actually two-fold:
1. How big to do want the TV to be when it's being used (for immersion)
2. How big do you want the TV to be when it's not being used (so it doesn't dominate the room)
and for me a key thing is probably the ratio between the time it's turned off and the time it's on (compromise on one for the other).
I'll hypothesis that that question is actually two-fold:
1. How big to do want the TV to be when it's being used (for immersion)
2. How big do you want the TV to be when it's not being used (so it doesn't dominate the room)
and for me a key thing is probably the ratio between the time it's turned off and the time it's on (compromise on one for the other).
Also the other thing is assuming people are going large at 4k (and above?) then how much content is currently available and what the screen looks like with the majority of 1080p content if view large and close up.
Perhaps another few years yet before the larger screens come into their own with more content readily available.
Perhaps another few years yet before the larger screens come into their own with more content readily available.
pistonheadforum said:
Also the other thing is assuming people are going large at 4k (and above?) then how much content is currently available and what the screen looks like with the majority of 1080p content if view large and close up.
Perhaps another few years yet before the larger screens come into their own with more content readily available.
8k - bob all content other than a nature doc channel on the Samsung store. Looks amazing but you do have to be quite close to the set. You just cant see the pixels at all.Perhaps another few years yet before the larger screens come into their own with more content readily available.
4k - quite a lot available and with the TV upscaling to 8K looks brilliant. Especially the higher bitrate stuff.
1080p - almost everything available in 1080p? Starts to look a bit ropey on 8k set, looks ok on 4k set but pixels are more obvious on 4k.
Is below 1080 still a thing? Would look god awful I suspect.
This for me is why I feel 55" is as big as I would want currently.
I have to say I am not a massive fan of HDR, on the OLED it is great, but even on the best FALD LCD it is not so great.
Plus I don't like to sit in a room with the lights off, and HDR is set up for a screen being watched in the dark.
Put on a couple of lamps and it can be too dark an image on far too many scenes.
Therefore I tend to not watch the 4K version, that does often force HDR on you. Yeah I get you can make it brighter, but it skews the image in other scenes then.
A 55" set can still look stunning with 1080p, where as 65" set from my viewing distance showing that same 1080p can look a little soft.
Bit rates are getting worse and worse for 1080p as well, which doesn't help.
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Does anyone actually watch anything that isn't 1080p? We got Sky HD in 2006, I had been running a D-Theater system for a few years prior to that as well, but Sky HD some 15 years ago was the last time I think I watched any SD material.
I'm amazed that Freeview and Freesat is not 100% HD these days. Mind you, I guess all the catch up services are so they probably never will be?
I have to say I am not a massive fan of HDR, on the OLED it is great, but even on the best FALD LCD it is not so great.
Plus I don't like to sit in a room with the lights off, and HDR is set up for a screen being watched in the dark.
Put on a couple of lamps and it can be too dark an image on far too many scenes.
Therefore I tend to not watch the 4K version, that does often force HDR on you. Yeah I get you can make it brighter, but it skews the image in other scenes then.
A 55" set can still look stunning with 1080p, where as 65" set from my viewing distance showing that same 1080p can look a little soft.
Bit rates are getting worse and worse for 1080p as well, which doesn't help.
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Does anyone actually watch anything that isn't 1080p? We got Sky HD in 2006, I had been running a D-Theater system for a few years prior to that as well, but Sky HD some 15 years ago was the last time I think I watched any SD material.
I'm amazed that Freeview and Freesat is not 100% HD these days. Mind you, I guess all the catch up services are so they probably never will be?
gizlaroc said:
Does anyone actually watch anything that isn't 1080p?
I quiet enjoy the odd episode of Dads Army / Red Dwarf / Frasier, none of which are 1080p, most aren't even widescreen! The poor quality doesn't bother me too much though, it's easily offset by the quality of image on UHD content, the BBC nature stuff is staggeringly good, as are some of the UHD films that are around these days. 32 inch panasonic CRT that was very expensive when I bought it £1200 in 2004. people still comment on the quality of the picture. It had stonking reviews in the specialist magazines etc. It has component video so works well with my ancient surround sound and dvd player, 100hz refresh rate, natural colours (if you don't use the auto settings)
I haven't changed it because a. it works well, b. its in a corner so no benefit from a flat screen as the space behind it is dead.
However - its getting annoying that it doesnt have HDMI inputs as things like Firestick no longer work with an adaptor
For our other place we have a 42 inch OLED due to be delivered
I haven't changed it because a. it works well, b. its in a corner so no benefit from a flat screen as the space behind it is dead.
However - its getting annoying that it doesnt have HDMI inputs as things like Firestick no longer work with an adaptor
For our other place we have a 42 inch OLED due to be delivered
Edited by blueg33 on Monday 8th February 15:28
dasbimmerowner said:
I quiet enjoy the odd episode of Dads Army / Red Dwarf / Frasier, none of which are 1080p, most aren't even widescreen! The poor quality doesn't bother me too much though, it's easily offset by the quality of image on UHD content, the BBC nature stuff is staggeringly good, as are some of the UHD films that are around these days.
One of the minor channels is running old Tales of the Unexpected on Saturday mornings & those pictures out of the old tube cameras are are rough.You can tell the programmes were ancient by how young Brian Blessed looked.
Lincsls1 said:
I watch loads of 720p content on my 50" TV and it is a perfectly acceptable viewing experience.
SD channels are fine on our 49" £600 Sony LCD. We did first buy a £300 49" TV from Costco in a bit of a panic when our old one broke but things like NCIS on whatever Freeview channel it's on, where genuinlely unwatchable.Lincsls1 said:
I watch loads of 720p content on my 50" TV and it is a perfectly acceptable viewing experience.
Yeah, I agree. I meant, in the UK we have 576 lines or 1080 then the jump to 4k.
720p is also OK, but there is a big difference between the old 576 and 720. But 720p was never a format chosen for UK material.
To be fair, it is more about bitrate and compression.
I remember doing a demo years ago to some of the AVforum guys showing iRobot from 1080i D-VHS into one Panasonic commercial plasma and the same film from a 1080i demo clip from a media player into a high end Crystalio scaler into another Panasonic commercial plasma.
Every agreed hands that the D-VHS looked so much better.
Everyone was a bit amazed that the D-Theater was being shown on a 480p panel, where as the scaled one was being shown on a true 1080p panel.
The demo clip was good, around 12 mbps of bandwidth, the D-Theater release however was clocked in at around 26mbps, which just gave this really clean, almost 3D looking image..from a video tape.
Resolution is good if everything else is equal, but we notice far more and far more makes a good image than resolution. If everything is right yeah more resolution, but this made rush for higher res when so many displays don't get the basics right really annoys me.
Latest 65" LG CX Oled has a fantastic picture, better than the Pioneer Plasma it replaced.
Although the room is 7.5m x 4.5m the sofa is 2.5m from the screen the centre of which is at eye hight.
4K can be watched very much closer than standard HD and much detail is lost if you sit too far way.
There are a number of AV sites which give ideal TV size, distance, resolution graphs.
Although the room is 7.5m x 4.5m the sofa is 2.5m from the screen the centre of which is at eye hight.
4K can be watched very much closer than standard HD and much detail is lost if you sit too far way.
There are a number of AV sites which give ideal TV size, distance, resolution graphs.
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