21:9 format TV's
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Was in John Lewis Oxford St the other day and a huge Phillips 21:9 format TV caught my eye.
Shirley 21:9 is the obvious way to make a TV designed for Home Movie experience.
Which begs the question, why are there not more 21:9 format TV's ?
Look great to me. If there were more, I hope the price would come down. They are very expensive..
TS
Shirley 21:9 is the obvious way to make a TV designed for Home Movie experience.
Which begs the question, why are there not more 21:9 format TV's ?
Look great to me. If there were more, I hope the price would come down. They are very expensive..
TS
Do you want the long answer or the short answer?
In essence even on scope content the black bars make up the aspect and not everything is printed in scope.
That Phillips even though it's an LCD, is worth the money.
Fo. Sho.
Set one up for a client recently, very impressed with the results.
In essence even on scope content the black bars make up the aspect and not everything is printed in scope.
That Phillips even though it's an LCD, is worth the money.
Fo. Sho.
Set one up for a client recently, very impressed with the results.
North West Tom said:
I'd expect to see these in the near future. The problem is that Blu-rays and DVDs aren't 21:9 ratio.
thats just chicken and egg though ...no need for them to be anything other than 16:9 these days....I remember when they were all 4:3 not so long ago, well maybe in another 10 years they will all be 21:9 ...when mainstream TVs are 16:9 42" and home cinema geeks are buying 21:9 72" ones North West Tom said:
I'd expect to see these in the near future. The problem is that Blu-rays and DVDs aren't 21:9 ratio.
You may find that (like me) the vast majority of your DVDs or BluRays are in 2.40:1 format which means the 'active area' of the picture is in fact 22:9 near enough. The means that when watched on a 22:9 screen there will not be any black bars for the majority of modern films. The Phillips TV will upscale the 1920 x 1080 disc content (complete with letterbox bars) to something like 2500 x 1080. It makes the black bars dissapear off the top and bottom of the screen leaving only the active picture on display. Of course it is 'upscaling' but if it's done well from an already good source like BluRay, then it will still look very good (not as good as an anamorphically squeeze BluRay would look, but they're unlikely to ever appear unfortunately).However, this also means that the majority of 'everyday' TV will leave you with black bars on the sides of the 22:9 screen as it is mostly broadcast in 16:9 (or even 4:3). For this reason I have a 22:9 projector screen for watching films on and a 16:9 TV screen for day to day use...it's rare that either screen has any black bars on them.
So unless you mostly use your TV for film viewing, you may be better off with a 'standard' 16:9 screen IMHO.
OldSkoolRS said:
North West Tom said:
I'd expect to see these in the near future. The problem is that Blu-rays and DVDs aren't 21:9 ratio.
You may find that (like me) the vast majority of your DVDs or BluRays are in 2.40:1 format which means the 'active area' of the picture is in fact 22:9 near enough. The means that when watched on a 22:9 screen there will not be any black bars for the majority of modern films. The Phillips TV will upscale the 1920 x 1080 disc content (complete with letterbox bars) to something like 2500 x 1080. It makes the black bars dissapear off the top and bottom of the screen leaving only the active picture on display. Of course it is 'upscaling' but if it's done well from an already good source like BluRay, then it will still look very good (not as good as an anamorphically squeeze BluRay would look, but they're unlikely to ever appear unfortunately).However, this also means that the majority of 'everyday' TV will leave you with black bars on the sides of the 22:9 screen as it is mostly broadcast in 16:9 (or even 4:3). For this reason I have a 22:9 projector screen for watching films on and a 16:9 TV screen for day to day use...it's rare that either screen has any black bars on them.
So unless you mostly use your TV for film viewing, you may be better off with a 'standard' 16:9 screen IMHO.
If true, what's going on here with the scaling?
CraigW said:
I have one.
When watching films it seems to make them incredibly relaxing on the eye somehow. My wife even noticed it so it must be true!
That was my point earlier, I believe they are better suited to watching films on rather than day to day TV which will largely be 16:9 or even 4:3. That's why my projector screen is 22:9 seeing as most films I watch seem to be 22:9.When watching films it seems to make them incredibly relaxing on the eye somehow. My wife even noticed it so it must be true!
To answer the other comment; you may have been watching a BluRay that was in 1.85:1 or 178:1 format as there are plenty about (especially comedies, documentries and similar). Or perhaps you'd applied some kind of inage stretch to fill the screen (not sure if it's possible on the Pioneer, though I'd hope not as it distorts the image horribly just for the sake of some black bars).
allgonepetetong said:
Perhaps my lack of understanding, but I'm sure that my Blu-Ray discs, when played on my Pioneer 16:9 plasmas via PS3, do not have black bars at the top and bottom of the screen. I'm certain the whole screen is filled.
If true, what's going on here with the scaling?
You could just happen to have a bunch of 16x9 blurays I guess, otherwise you probably have some sort of zoom setting enabled, which means either a stretched image or a cropped one.If true, what's going on here with the scaling?
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