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Stupidlikeafox

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794 posts

179 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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I'll admit, I'm useless. But I badly need someone from the internets to sort this problem out for me.

Basically, I've just bought a new stand for my TV in the bedroom, and I cannot for the life of me work out how to get the TV on the the TV bracket.

There are 4 holes on the back of the TV, which look like something should screw in there, but none of the screws supplied with the stand are small enough to fit in. I've attached some pictures to hopefully make my predicament clearer:

Here are the holes where nothing will fit, and the silvers bits won't unscrew out either:





This is the TV stand and bracket itself:



And how the TV attaches to the 2 'arm' things, which then attach to the stand:



But I can't attach the arms because I have no suitable screws!

This is particularly bad news as the thing the TV was on before has been dismantled and I have nowhere to put my TV unless I get it on the bracket. Please help, and please don't tell me I am royally screwed and will need to buy another TV!

grumbledoak

31,561 posts

234 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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The four points on the back of the TV look normal; I think it called the VESA standard. I'd have expected the bracket to come with the right screws, though if it didn't you'll have to watch Top Gear in the 'handstand' position 'til you can pop to the shops.

Best of.

ETA- Yes, there are several VESA standards for different sizes of telly. Couldn't find a reference to the correct screw size.

Edited by grumbledoak on Sunday 31st January 18:48

tribbles

3,981 posts

223 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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M6 and M8 are two screws that came with my TV mounting kit, so I'd guess they're going to be the most common ones.

If it's US, then you may find 1/4" to be the right size (although what pitch, I don't know).

Do you still have the TV manual?

Stupidlikeafox

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794 posts

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Sunday 31st January 2010
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grumbledoak said:
The four points on the back of the TV look normal; I think it called the VESA standard. I'd have expected the bracket to come with the right screws, though if it didn't you'll have to watch Top Gear in the 'handstand' position 'til you can pop to the shops.

Best of.

ETA- Yes, there are several VESA standards for different sizes of telly. Couldn't find a reference to the correct screw size.

Edited by grumbledoak on Sunday 31st January 18:48
Yeah, that's the worst part, I assumed that because the 4 points confirmed to the VESA standard (they are 100mm x 100mm apart) it would fit no worries. I always do my research before buying stuff to stop stuff like this happening! Screw size was never mentioned as an issue, which is most puzzling.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

231 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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IIRC, screens up to 32" have a VESA pitch (industry standard for pitch). As already stated, your pic looks like a VESA pitch.

The silver parts visible in your pic are probably spacers to prevent any set-screw or bolt compressing the casing.

Again as stated, the threads are usually M6 (up to 32") or M8 (>32") - the size/thread arrangement may vary for different manufacturers.

The TV brackets often do not have the correct fixing for the screens (as I found out at Christmas).

The manual for the TV will usually give details on the thread & length of the fixing to suit the screen.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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See those two screws with arrows pointing to them...?

Are you supposed to undo them and remove the plastic panel to give you access to the four metal objects you mention, which don't appear to be threaded? Are those screwed into threaded holes and in need of removal, to be replaced by your bolts?


Smiler.

11,752 posts

231 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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Stupidlikeafox said:
grumbledoak said:
The four points on the back of the TV look normal; I think it called the VESA standard. I'd have expected the bracket to come with the right screws, though if it didn't you'll have to watch Top Gear in the 'handstand' position 'til you can pop to the shops.

Best of.

ETA- Yes, there are several VESA standards for different sizes of telly. Couldn't find a reference to the correct screw size.

Edited by grumbledoak on Sunday 31st January 18:48
Yeah, that's the worst part, I assumed that because the 4 points confirmed to the VESA standard (they are 100mm x 100mm apart) it would fit no worries. I always do my research before buying stuff to stop stuff like this happening! Screw size was never mentioned as an issue, which is most puzzling.
I too assumed that as I purchased a TV & bracket from a retail outlet that sells predominately Panasonic & offered wall brackets specifically for the screens they sell, that I would not need to be concerned - how wrong I was.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

231 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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mybrainhurts said:


See those two screws with arrows pointing to them...?

Are you supposed to undo them and remove the plastic panel to give you access to the four metal objects you mention, which don't appear to be threaded? Are those screwed into threaded holes and in need of removal, to be replaced by your bolts?
No, the bolt should be long enough to reach the threaded boss on the body of the screen. What does the manual for the TV say?

Stupidlikeafox

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794 posts

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Sunday 31st January 2010
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mybrainhurts said:
See those two screws with arrows pointing to them...?

Are you supposed to undo them and remove the plastic panel to give you access to the four metal objects you mention, which don't appear to be threaded? Are those screwed into threaded holes and in need of removal, to be replaced by your bolts?
The silver things are definately threaded, my crap pictures probably don't make that clear. There are lots more of the little black screws dotted around which are holding the back of the TV panel on, and I don't fancy undoing them!

Due to my less than practical nature (think Homer Simpson), I am rather confused by all this M6/M8 business. The stnad came with 3 different sets of screws, one set 4mm diameter, one 5mm, and one 7mm.

Now measuring the diameter of the silver holes show them to be ever-so slightly less than 4mm in diameter! Arse! Hence the smallest screws (4mm) won't fit in.



Can you buy screws in literally any diameter?



Edited by Stupidlikeafox on Sunday 31st January 19:59

GTIR

24,741 posts

267 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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Smiler. said:
What does the manual for the TV say?
rofl

Read the manual indeed!

Seriously though I had the same problem and ended up scrounging some screws to fit.

tribbles

3,981 posts

223 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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That looks like it could be M4 or possibly M5. I'd be VERY surprised if it was less than that.

Stupidlikeafox

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794 posts

179 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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The manual has no information whatsoever on screw diameters, so its useless.

I guess I'll just have to go to the hardware shop to get some M4 and M5 screws tommorow (thanks for the suggestion tribbles and hope they fit in. If not, it will be a more expensive trip to look at some TVs that are less awkward! rolleyes

Edited by Stupidlikeafox on Sunday 31st January 20:26

grumbledoak

31,561 posts

234 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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If you post up the make and model of the 'telly', someone might be able to look it up... wink

tribbles

3,981 posts

223 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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Note that a hole for an M4 bolt is smaller than 4mm - when you look at the hole, it's the /internal/ diameter you're reading, and if you look at the bolt, then it's the /outer/ diameter.

When you tap a hole for an M4 bolt (i.e. make a 4mm thread on it), then for a standard thread pitch, you drill a 3.2mm hole (this is the internal diameter). Looking at the later picture, it's just over 3mm internal size, so M4 would be a fairly good bet.

However, if it's slightly countersunk then the appearance changes, and it becomes a bit more difficult to check. I'm fairly confident it's M4 though.

headcase

2,389 posts

218 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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Its a Sharp :P. With lots of TV's the screws used to hold the pedistal on are sometimes the same size as what is needed for the bracket mounting. Your friendly local hardware store sould be able to sort you out, dont get screws that are too long and nip them up with a manual handheld screwdriver NOT a screwdriver bit in a drill, all they need is to be finger tight then approx 1/4 - 1/2 turn.

That bracket is a little on the large size for that TV wich is why it sisnt have screws small enough but its no problem it will work fine with the correct size screws. Also the screws with the arrows are holding the back on the TV you dont need to remove them at all.

Edited by headcase on Sunday 31st January 21:40

Stupidlikeafox

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794 posts

179 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Finally got some M4 screws yesterday and the TV now fits! smile Thanks for helping me out chaps.