3DTV, will it take off?

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Tonsko

6,299 posts

215 months

Wednesday 31st March 2010
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"It costs no extra processing power, it just drops the max resolution or framerate you can run at."

It must require some extra processing pwer, otherwise the frame rate or resolution wouldn't drop?

Be that as it may, it's not as simple as that I don't think - why is it only now (or in the last 6 months) that Nvidia have released a card with enough processing grunt to provide a 3D-like experience with shutter glasses?

So yeh, I think you've oversimplified the issue.

WeirdNeville

5,962 posts

215 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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Tonsko said:
"It costs no extra processing power, it just drops the max resolution or framerate you can run at."

It must require some extra processing pwer, otherwise the frame rate or resolution wouldn't drop?

Be that as it may, it's not as simple as that I don't think - why is it only now (or in the last 6 months) that Nvidia have released a card with enough processing grunt to provide a 3D-like experience with shutter glasses?
Sorry, what I meant to say was it requires no specialist hardware to generate 2 stereo image streams once you have a 3D game engine and the rendering power to use it.
The Nvidia card you mention is just a solution to the display issue I mentioned - the card itself I'll wager is a normal Gfx card, just with software to generate the stereo image output and sync the monitor refresh to the shutter glasses.

Bibbs

3,733 posts

210 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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My new tv has a 3d port on the back. The ps3 will get a 3d firmware update this summer.

For the cost of a 3d glasses sync box, and a pair of glasses I think it will take off.

Games will be the first things out, then the bluray stuff will follow.

Hdmi 1.3 can just about cope with 3d, but 1.4 will be out soon (and require new hardware).

Mr Fenix

863 posts

205 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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Just bought the new Samsung 55" 3DTV around 2 weeks ago.

So far the 3d is excellent with the glasses (you get used to them) but its weird watching "3D upscaled" regular movies and tv. You get the depth but no "out the screen" effect. Downside is that you have to buy a 3d blueray player and there isn't much available in 3d yet.

No doubt in my mind when the price comes down this is where tv is going.

Oh and the HD picture quality is incredible. So good it sort made me feel sick for a few days trying to adjust!!



RDMcG

19,153 posts

207 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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i was very sceptical before I took a look at one. I had seen Avatar and thought the small screen would be very Mickey Mouse. It is actually very impressive. I think it will take three or four years for content to arrive and would not be the first to buy one.

98C4S

2,934 posts

190 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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I have a new Samsung UE46C8000 3D

The picture quality is fantastic, I would even argue its better than my previous Pioneer Kuro.

Have got Monsters Vs Aliens on 3D Blu-Ray and its superb.

Wearing the glasses does seem gimmicky, so I think it will end up being a nice add on, but realistically, most people will only use it now and again - but who knows what the long term future holds

okgo

38,043 posts

198 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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Guess all us Virgin Media lot just have to put up with nothing frown

russ_a

4,578 posts

211 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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I'm pretty sure Virgin Media have 3d in the pipeline.

garycat

4,400 posts

210 months

Tuesday 20th April 2010
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I bet it will take off as soon as Babestation etc launch 3D channels.

Pr0n was one of the main reasons for the uptake of VHS video cassettes and the streaming video/file sharing on the internet.

Edited by garycat on Tuesday 20th April 16:43

theboyfold

10,921 posts

226 months

Tuesday 20th April 2010
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I spent last week working at NAB in Vegas which is the biggest broadcasting conference of the year.

If the quantity of 3d gear was anything to go by 3d will be huge, but more you dived into speaking to the people who actually make decisions on stuff like this lots of them were supporting 3d 'just in case' it took off. Lots of them don't believe in it, but also don't want to be left behind if it takes off.

pmanson

13,382 posts

253 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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garycat said:
I bet it will take off as soon as Babestation etc launch 3D channels.
They are based in our business park... will pop down and ask them wink

Tonsko

6,299 posts

215 months

Bibbs

3,733 posts

210 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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Tonsko said:
They mention that's back porting an old game to 720p and 30fps .. it's good enough for a starter.

I'd have thought that more modern games written for 3D will be fine.

It'll be like the old split screen games that cut half the textures out.

Webber3

1,228 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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I had a look at the demo of this in a Sony shop in Florida. It was surprisingly good. I can't see people using it all the time, but I'm sure you could put up with the glasses for a few hours to watch a good scifi film.

The price of these TV's will have to come close to that of a normal TV before I'd upgrade. It would be nice to have, but it's not worth paying shed loads of money for it.

Revs_Addiction

2,090 posts

231 months

Monday 26th April 2010
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I was speaking to a good friend of mine who's a director, and apparently the major players are going for it in a BIG way. EVERYTHING Warner Bros now comissions will now be filmed in 3D! Sky are obviously throwing HUGE money at it too, (way more is going on behind the scenes with them - a lot of wildlife docs apparently).

Re-mastering is possible to a certain degree, but you can't get the full 'coming out the screen' effects that you can if it was filmed in 3D originally, but still enough to be worthwhile.

The amount that things come out of the screen, or go 'into' the screen is known as the 'budget'. Remastering can achieve +/-5% which is enough to give the film the depth but not the WOW effects...

Seems it's here to stay..

Not going to make a huge difference to me at the moment though, I've still got a CRT telly! hehe

*Disclaimer - The above was recounted during a very drunken conversation, so I may have got some of the finer details wrong!biggrin

PJ S

10,842 posts

227 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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I'd be happier with HD broadcasting in a bigger way than currently, before getting excited by "3D" visual effects!

Tonsko

6,299 posts

215 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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This is just going to suck on so many levels. My eyes don't work in tandem properly. They aren't crossed or anything, they just don't work together. Hence I will not be abe to experience 3D at all.

On th eplus side, I no doubt will save vast sums of money not paying extra for the 3D cinema versions, or the new technology that arrives! Hurrah!

Thudd

3,100 posts

207 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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I don't want to wear glasses to watch telly. And for that reason, i'm out.

JustinP1

13,330 posts

230 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Thudd said:
I don't want to wear glasses to watch telly. And for that reason, i'm out.
I guess when you get old, you'll be 'out' too!

im

34,302 posts

217 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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JustinP1 said:
Thudd said:
I don't want to wear glasses to watch telly. And for that reason, i'm out.
I guess when you get old, you'll be 'out' too!
Yes but then you'll have to wear glasses on top of your glasses and for that reason...ahm oot too!