pronto remote, information share.

pronto remote, information share.

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kazste

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5,684 posts

199 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Right the last thread got closed, so no blame but let's try and keep this on topic.

Their is apparently a new prontoedit out I think its version 3 I think you have to be invited to have it officially and don't know how to go about arranging that. The original one was free so hopefully this version will be too.

Lots of files can be found on remotecentral but I am really struggling to find the code for the Panasonic g20, if anyone has them or knows where to find them it would be much appreciated.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

246 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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I could do with a version of ProntoEdit, but likewise have come unstuck in that it's only available to installers. I don't have any version at all of it at the mo.

kazste

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5,684 posts

199 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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You have mail.

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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It' no wonder they closed the company down given the price of these things. Is there anything inside them at all that justifies the price?

There are people making apps for smartphones / apple products, etc that can control devices over wifi so I can't understand why someone hasn't come up with a programmable remote that's affordable. Or have they?

kazste

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5,684 posts

199 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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They really are a premium product when done properly to be fair.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

246 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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And has been said before, the Pronto range is not just about shiny remotes. They are not comparable to a Harmony or the like. In fact probably their next nearest competitors would be the likes of Crestron or AMX in which case you're somewhere between 3-4k for a single remote....

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Yes but in this day and age of cheap, technology I'm surprised someone hasn't created a programmable, touchscreen remote that's affordable to the masses.

kazste

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5,684 posts

199 months

Friday 18th February 2011
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I can kind of see where your coming from in that all you need is a touchscreen panel and some software plus an it sensor, but the way the hole remote can be made to work exactly how you want it to really is very good.
There are cheaper alternatives which are still touchscreen remotes, but in my experience (all 4 one mosaic) it was virtually unusable as certain functions could only be placed in certain positions on the screen.

If you have tried one and hold this view then fair enough, but of you haven't download the software and a set up, you can then have a play through Tue simulator function and hopefully you will see why they really are good value.

hughjayteens

2,029 posts

269 months

Friday 18th February 2011
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Oakey said:
Yes but in this day and age of cheap, technology I'm surprised someone hasn't created a programmable, touchscreen remote that's affordable to the masses.
They have, it's called the iPhone/iPad... However, the fundamental flaw with these things (as I demonstrate to my clients on a regular basis) is that people like buttons and tactlitiy (is that a word?). The Sky remote is everyone's favourite as you can operate it in the dark without even looking - try doing that on an iPad.... Crestron are releasing the iPanel which is a sleeve for the iPad which has hard keys down the side for primary functions such as volume and navigation - I think that will be a game changer.

http://www.crestron.com/resources/product_and_prog...

What a Pronto or similar allows is for one remote to control almost anything within your house - the development of the software to make this work is what costs the money but sadly the market is so small on the grand scheme of things, that it makes no financial sense to a giant like Philips.

It does however require a lot of expertise and experience to make these things work seamlessly - sadly many 'experts' delivery half baked, bug ridden results that put people off technology.

We were recently asked to de-install 2 Prontos from a property and replace them with Crestron remotes at twice the price because the clients had used Crestron previously and it just worked. The Prontos were more than capable of doing what the client needed them to do but had been so badly programmed that the clients immediately hated them. We suggested re-programming them but the client didn't want to take what they considered to be a risk (and the money wasn't relevant to them).


Now have a couple of TSU-9400s going cheap if anyone wants one!!

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Friday 18th February 2011
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How cheap? £100 each cheap? hehe

kazste

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199 months

Friday 18th February 2011
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Hughjayteens, do you happen to uave the codes for a Panasonic 42g20 I have managed to program my pronto for all of my kit but cannot find this code.
Remote is a pronto 980 in case that matters, any help greatly appreciated.

hughjayteens

2,029 posts

269 months

Friday 18th February 2011
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Oakley - not that cheap!!

Not sure re the G20 codes but will ask my programmer on Monday. We've done dozens of Pana screens with Crestron over ir so suspect we'll have something!

kazste

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199 months

Friday 18th February 2011
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Thankyou so much for checking, its driving me barmy as just cannot find anywhere.

OldSkoolRS

6,759 posts

180 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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hughjayteens said:
They have, it's called the iPhone/iPad... However, the fundamental flaw with these things (as I demonstrate to my clients on a regular basis) is that people like buttons and tactlitiy (is that a word?). The Sky remote is everyone's favourite as you can operate it in the dark without even looking - try doing that on an iPad....
I've come against a similar remote based problem: I've been using the excellent learning/programmable remote that came with my DVDO Edge video processor; it lights up in the dark and has nice tactile buttons. I've set it to control everything and it works perfectly.

However I've just replaced the Edge with a Lumagen Radiance which has a simple remote for only it's own controls. As I'm selling the Edge I need to find a replacement remote (otherwise I'll get all kinds of grief from the family as they didn't like the old Harmony 525 I had). Do any of these Pronto models have 'proper' tactile buttons rather than a touchscreen? Or does anyone know where I could get a spare 'R7' remote from (it even learnt the Radiance functions, which is a bit like using a Ford key to start a Vauxhall smile). The Edge is probably worth about £300 so it's a bit of a waste to keep it just for it's remote...

Edited by OldSkoolRS on Saturday 19th February 11:29

hughjayteens

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269 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Most prontos have both - hard keys for main functions such as volume, channel, transport functions and navigation and a touchscreen which can be used for source selection and browsing music etc.

RTi do some display less remotes which are nice such as the B&O esque T1B. Very simple and works well.

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Seriously, how much for these Prontos? I'm guessing we're still talking hundreds?

kazste

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Saturday 19th February 2011
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You should be able to pick up a 980/990 for about £180 looking on eBay, for the more pentablet style ones they were about £800-1000 new so would guess around £400 now.
This is going from eBay though were a lot of the 980s are being sold either with problems are the old its my exes so can't guarantee it, when I was thinking about selling mine I had lots of interest around this figure, which made me think o had priced it low.

Hope this kind of helps.

OldSkoolRS

6,759 posts

180 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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hughjayteens said:
Most prontos have both - hard keys for main functions such as volume, channel, transport functions and navigation and a touchscreen which can be used for source selection and browsing music etc.

RTi do some display less remotes which are nice such as the B&O esque T1B. Very simple and works well.
Thanks for the tip off. I found this link to the T1B and it looks like the sort of thing I'm after.

http://www.rticorp.com/products/t1b.html

Only issue is that I can't seem to find a UK supplier at the moment only USA links.

hughjayteens

2,029 posts

269 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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They are about £800 new so these are probably worth £300 or so.

Have you tried these for the G20?

http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/files/rcfiles...


VEX

5,256 posts

247 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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RTI is available here in the uk. A lot of dealers switching over from Pronto at the moment.

Never done pronto but I hope to be doing my rti training over the next month or so, the driving force is that little t1 that you have seen.

V.