Prometheus - Ridley Scott's 'Alien Prequel' (or not)...
Discussion
After paying to watch Prometheus at the cinema and regretting it, I am so pleased to read that I was quite right not to waste money on this sequel. from what I had read, it is more of a 'soft reboot', but still has all the characters doing stuff people would never do or say in real life.
I get the feeling that Ridley Scott thinks very little of fellow humans, which shows in his awful scripts.
I get the feeling that Ridley Scott thinks very little of fellow humans, which shows in his awful scripts.
I can only assume that putting people into stasis isn't a perfect thing. The brain clearly degrades resulting in significantly reduced cognitive function.
Anyway, having just figured out something is trying to kill us all, I'm going to go over here on my own, and do something that serves no useful purpose. All alone. Where I cannot be seen or heard. I'll probably be separated from any weapons for a period of time. Hope nothing bad happens.
Anyway, having just figured out something is trying to kill us all, I'm going to go over here on my own, and do something that serves no useful purpose. All alone. Where I cannot be seen or heard. I'll probably be separated from any weapons for a period of time. Hope nothing bad happens.
Munter said:
Anyway, having just figured out something is trying to kill us all, I'm going to go over here on my own, and do something that serves no useful purpose. All alone. Where I cannot be seen or heard. I'll probably be separated from any weapons for a period of time. Hope nothing bad happens.
Why do they keep on doing this. It's ridiculous.
Have them all sit in a petrified circle with their backs to each other, armed to the teeth, with nothing but their own panicked shallow breathing for company, desperately trying to keep their eyes open as the hours drag by till daylight, still totally unable to stop themselves being picked off one by one.
Venturist said:
Why do they keep on doing this. It's ridiculous.
Have them all sit in a petrified circle with their backs to each other, armed to the teeth, with nothing but their own panicked shallow breathing for company, desperately trying to keep their eyes open as the hours drag by till daylight, still totally unable to stop themselves being picked off one by one.
I like how after the captain has died they then send the new captain and the second in command down to the planet surface.
Seen it today.
Long time Alien fan hoping for a long awaited improvement to anything made from the nadir that was Alien Resurrection.
The first three films are brilliant, excellent and good. I'm referring to the directors cut version with regards to Alien3.
Totally disappointed in this film, for all the reasons mentioned previously and particularly the mass from 'thin air' for the morphs.
I'll add one more (tiny) observation into the discussion.
They perform the rescue in a craft that is designed to move heavy loads from the orbiter down to the colony plant.
It is capable of reaching orbit.
But swing a small crane out from it and it lacks sufficient thrust to counter this weight imbalance and starts flying like Stevie Wonder is at the controls...FFS
Long time Alien fan hoping for a long awaited improvement to anything made from the nadir that was Alien Resurrection.
The first three films are brilliant, excellent and good. I'm referring to the directors cut version with regards to Alien3.
Totally disappointed in this film, for all the reasons mentioned previously and particularly the mass from 'thin air' for the morphs.
I'll add one more (tiny) observation into the discussion.
They perform the rescue in a craft that is designed to move heavy loads from the orbiter down to the colony plant.
It is capable of reaching orbit.
But swing a small crane out from it and it lacks sufficient thrust to counter this weight imbalance and starts flying like Stevie Wonder is at the controls...FFS
deanobeano said:
Seen it today.
Long time Alien fan hoping for a long awaited improvement to anything made from the nadir that was Alien Resurrection.
The first three films are brilliant, excellent and good. I'm referring to the directors cut version with regards to Alien3.
Totally disappointed in this film, for all the reasons mentioned previously and particularly the mass from 'thin air' for the morphs.
I'll add one more (tiny) observation into the discussion.
They perform the rescue in a craft that is designed to move heavy loads from the orbiter down to the colony plant.
It is capable of reaching orbit.
But swing a small crane out from it and it lacks sufficient thrust to counter this weight imbalance and starts flying like Stevie Wonder is at the controls...FFS
Long time Alien fan hoping for a long awaited improvement to anything made from the nadir that was Alien Resurrection.
The first three films are brilliant, excellent and good. I'm referring to the directors cut version with regards to Alien3.
Totally disappointed in this film, for all the reasons mentioned previously and particularly the mass from 'thin air' for the morphs.
I'll add one more (tiny) observation into the discussion.
They perform the rescue in a craft that is designed to move heavy loads from the orbiter down to the colony plant.
It is capable of reaching orbit.
But swing a small crane out from it and it lacks sufficient thrust to counter this weight imbalance and starts flying like Stevie Wonder is at the controls...FFS
Just got back from seeing it.
It was ok and I'm glad I saw it at the cinema. Ruined by stupid characters though.
Anyone else notice the old Alien films music when they were looking at the chart of the system?
The chest burster seemed to incubate quite quickly in this film.
I thought there would be more to it than just a naughty synthetic.
It was ok and I'm glad I saw it at the cinema. Ruined by stupid characters though.
Anyone else notice the old Alien films music when they were looking at the chart of the system?
The chest burster seemed to incubate quite quickly in this film.
I thought there would be more to it than just a naughty synthetic.
funkyrobot said:
Just got back from seeing it.
It was ok and I'm glad I saw it at the cinema. Ruined by stupid characters though.
Anyone else notice the old Alien films music when they were looking at the chart of the system?
The chest burster seemed to incubate quite quickly in this film.
I thought there would be more to it than just a naughty synthetic.
Yes, I was just a bit too young to have seen Alien at the cinema....and watched a dodgy VHS copy at my friend's house. Maybe I'd be a bigger fanboy of the original if I'd seen it on the big screen like the later films.It was ok and I'm glad I saw it at the cinema. Ruined by stupid characters though.
Anyone else notice the old Alien films music when they were looking at the chart of the system?
The chest burster seemed to incubate quite quickly in this film.
I thought there would be more to it than just a naughty synthetic.
I actually enjoyed the irony of the 'full circle' in Prometheus/Alien Covenant. Having said that it's just 2 hours of entertainment each time for me ....not a religion
wevster said:
Venturist said:
Why do they keep on doing this. It's ridiculous.
Have them all sit in a petrified circle with their backs to each other, armed to the teeth, with nothing but their own panicked shallow breathing for company, desperately trying to keep their eyes open as the hours drag by till daylight, still totally unable to stop themselves being picked off one by one.
I like how after the captain has died they then send the new captain and the second in command down to the planet surface.
If you view the films as horror films rather than Aliens type action movies, then a lot of it starts to make more sense (like telegraphing the switch at the end).
I watched Prometheus again over the past couple of days and, as a standalone film, I thought it was quite good. The "problem" is that Alien and Aliens are iconic films, so "quite good" seems "pretty bad" in comparison.
youngsyr said:
wevster said:
Venturist said:
Why do they keep on doing this. It's ridiculous.
Have them all sit in a petrified circle with their backs to each other, armed to the teeth, with nothing but their own panicked shallow breathing for company, desperately trying to keep their eyes open as the hours drag by till daylight, still totally unable to stop themselves being picked off one by one.
I like how after the captain has died they then send the new captain and the second in command down to the planet surface.
If you view the films as horror films rather than Aliens type action movies, then a lot of it starts to make more sense (like telegraphing the switch at the end).
I watched Prometheus again over the past couple of days and, as a standalone film, I thought it was quite good. The "problem" is that Alien and Aliens are iconic films, so "quite good" seems "pretty bad" in comparison.
Isn't part of the Alien backstory the fact that the characters are generally just ordinary people, not highly trained professional specialists, who therefore find themselves completely unprepared for what they encounter?
The whole crew in the first film, barring Ash, were basically just truckers, so protocols get treated just the same way as a small haulage firm's H&S policy does.
Beyond that there is always the dark hand of W-Y, so we may have a hand-picked crew, but who knows whether they've been hand-picked for their intelligence or their ineptitude!
The whole crew in the first film, barring Ash, were basically just truckers, so protocols get treated just the same way as a small haulage firm's H&S policy does.
Beyond that there is always the dark hand of W-Y, so we may have a hand-picked crew, but who knows whether they've been hand-picked for their intelligence or their ineptitude!
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