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Stevenj214 said:
Slightly different from the usual TV license question.
Hmmmm. Despite the TV licensing quote above, I thought the ability to play back previously televised recordings via iPlayer warranted payment for a license, with a computer but not TV in the house...TV Licensing said:
You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record TV as it's being broadcast.
What is "TV"? Could you technically be watching "TV as it's being broadcast" by having a Skype chat?Mobsta said:
Hmmmm. Despite the TV licensing quote above, I thought the ability to play back previously televised recordings via iPlayer warranted payment for a license, with a computer but not TV in the house...
No, you do not need a TV license to watch BBC iPlayer unless you are viewing a live stream (not sure if iPlayer ever has this).This is interesting point of interpretation of the Broadcasting Acts.
As far as I know there has NOT been a test case.
I doubt that Internet viewing is actually covered by the legislation which was written largely before the internet existed. Years before.
The BBC will say its illegal but can anyone find e relevant Court decision?
The legislation was written to try and catch any variation of viewing form but without a test case I remain unconvinced.
As far as I know there has NOT been a test case.
I doubt that Internet viewing is actually covered by the legislation which was written largely before the internet existed. Years before.
The BBC will say its illegal but can anyone find e relevant Court decision?
The legislation was written to try and catch any variation of viewing form but without a test case I remain unconvinced.
cazzer said:
Because it isnt television.
Otherwise you would need a tv licence for a remotely viewed cctv camera which you dont.
That's my question. What is television? Does it need to be available to the public?Otherwise you would need a tv licence for a remotely viewed cctv camera which you dont.
What about the 'Rat babies' camera set up by a PHer? Is that television? Would you require a licence to watch it?
Edited by Stevenj214 on Tuesday 9th August 00:53
Stevenj214 said:
cazzer said:
Because it isnt television.
Otherwise you would need a tv licence for a remotely viewed cctv camera which you dont.
That's my question. What is television? Does it need to be available to the public?Otherwise you would need a tv licence for a remotely viewed cctv camera which you dont.
What about the 'Rat babies' camera set up by a PHer? Is that television? Would you require a license to watch it?
"If you watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV you must, by law, be covered by a TV Licence, no matter what device you're using." (TV Licensing, 2011). Available from: <http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/?WT.mc_id=phd_Search_Brand&WT.srch=1> [Accessed 9 Aug 11].
Essentially, if you have the ability to receive 'live' television broadcasts, you need a licence. If you don't have the ability, then you don't. 'Ability' means having a device (television or some other technical device) that is able to receive (i.e. Internet, connected to an aerial, or cable etc). If you watch delayed tv or retreived previous transmissions on a device that cannot puck up live tv, then you do not need a licence. If you have a tv licence for your main residence, and say you are watching live tv on your hand held mobile device in your second/holiday home/yacht then you don't need another licence.
This is how TV Licensing explained it to me. Check with them for your own situation to ensure you don't fall foul of the law.
Essentially, if you have the ability to receive 'live' television broadcasts, you need a licence. If you don't have the ability, then you don't. 'Ability' means having a device (television or some other technical device) that is able to receive (i.e. Internet, connected to an aerial, or cable etc). If you watch delayed tv or retreived previous transmissions on a device that cannot puck up live tv, then you do not need a licence. If you have a tv licence for your main residence, and say you are watching live tv on your hand held mobile device in your second/holiday home/yacht then you don't need another licence.
This is how TV Licensing explained it to me. Check with them for your own situation to ensure you don't fall foul of the law.
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