'Old' films - I can't help but find them to be rubbish...

'Old' films - I can't help but find them to be rubbish...

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ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

256 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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Pothole said:
No, it depends on what the OP said in the OP:

"By older I mean pre early 1960's, from around the time of the first Bond films backwards."

'to me' doesn't count!
I know.. Been in this thread since the start. Was just saying that old means different things to different people... Oh never.

Eric Mc

122,086 posts

266 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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ChiChoAndy said:
Pothole said:
No, it depends on what the OP said in the OP:

"By older I mean pre early 1960's, from around the time of the first Bond films backwards."

'to me' doesn't count!
I know.. Been in this thread since the start. Was just saying that old means different things to different people... Oh never.
"Old" also depends on the age of the person. A teenager today would think a film from the early 1990s is old. Whereas I think that anything pre WW2 is old.

ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

256 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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Eric Mc said:
"Old" also depends on the age of the person. A teenager today would think a film from the early 1990s is old. Whereas I think that anything pre WW2 is old.
Yup, I covered that in a post a few up from here... "Depends what your definition of old is..."

Eric Mc

122,086 posts

266 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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ChiChoAndy said:
Eric Mc said:
"Old" also depends on the age of the person. A teenager today would think a film from the early 1990s is old. Whereas I think that anything pre WW2 is old.
Yup, I covered that in a post a few up from here... "Depends what your definition of old is..."
My granny thought an old film was a Victorian Magic Lantern show (she was born in 1890). She was still raving about Charlie Chaplain and Harold Lloyd in the 1970s.

ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

256 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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Nowt wrong with Harold Lloyd... I thought he was better than Chaplin. Used to watch it on a Saturday when I was little. Not many people seem to know that Chaplin was English, or Stan Laurel for that matter.

Eric Mc

122,086 posts

266 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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Or Bob Hope - or Cary Grant.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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I used to like Harold Loyd, the only silent one I could watch.
Laurel and Hardy are just the best.
Eric Mc said:
Or Bob Hope - or Cary Grant.
Cary Grant doing an English accent in one film (I can't recall but it is a serious one as opposed to his screwball comedies from the time) is most amusing. A precursor to Dick Van Dyke.

Old to me is I think, either B&W or pre-70s. Films pre 70sm seem to have a different tone. I don't know if deluxe changed their method or if it's a sign of taste/style. But films from the 60s and before seem richer, or more luxuriant. Films from the 70s onward tend to have a faded quality. I might be imagining thisbiggrin

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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On silent movies, find a decent version of Metropolis. It is admittedly as stilted as any silent movie but visually it still blows me away.

Eric Mc

122,086 posts

266 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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Halb said:
I used to like Harold Loyd, the only silent one I could watch.
Laurel and Hardy are just the best.
Eric Mc said:
Or Bob Hope - or Cary Grant.
Cary Grant doing an English accent in one film (I can't recall but it is a serious one as opposed to his screwball comedies from the time) is most amusing. A precursor to Dick Van Dyke.

Old to me is I think, either B&W or pre-70s. Films pre 70sm seem to have a different tone. I don't know if deluxe changed their method or if it's a sign of taste/style. But films from the 60s and before seem richer, or more luxuriant. Films from the 70s onward tend to have a faded quality. I might be imagining thisbiggrin
Grant was actually from Bristol so you can still catch a little bit of West Country in some of his speech. He adopted a kind of unique mid-Atlantic tone to his voice which meant he couldn't easily be placed anywhere.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Grant was actually from Bristol so you can still catch a little bit of West Country in some of his speech. He adopted a kind of unique mid-Atlantic tone to his voice which meant he couldn't easily be placed anywhere.
I know, Archie Leech (which I think he uses as a joke in one of his films, Soldiers Three maybe or Gunga Din.
I'm a fan of Cary Grant (The Bachelor and the Bobbysocker, Arsenic and Old Lace), this film he played an East end fella straight out of Maeeeryy Pooooppins.

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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Eric Mc said:
ChiChoAndy said:
Pothole said:
No, it depends on what the OP said in the OP:

"By older I mean pre early 1960's, from around the time of the first Bond films backwards."

'to me' doesn't count!
I know.. Been in this thread since the start. Was just saying that old means different things to different people... Oh never.
"Old" also depends on the age of the person. A teenager today would think a film from the early 1990s is old. Whereas I think that anything pre WW2 is old.
so you're just happily going off on a tangent...why not start your own thread if you want to discuss semantics?

ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

256 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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Calm down, dear. It's far from a tangent.

egomeister

6,705 posts

264 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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Johnnytheboy said:
On silent movies, find a decent version of Metropolis. It is admittedly as stilted as any silent movie but visually it still blows me away.
Amazing what was achieved in 1927, I really enjoyed it having never watched a silent movie before.

cazzer

8,883 posts

249 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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Gotta add a few on here...

A matter of life and death. Fantastic film.
Blythe Spirit, Dated but still brilliant. Margaret Rutherford is just superb. (And Elvira is just...rude smile )
Ice Cold in Alex. The perfect war film with very little war in it.
A Night to Remember. Much better than "Titanic"
Dambusters, well say no more.
It's a wonderful life, best christmas movie ever smile

There are so many more excellent old films. So the effects are a bit crappy, just suspend disbelief. The pace may be slower but the plotting is so much richer.

I really loathe films like the bourne series and transformers and such for being filmed in dramatic wobblyscope.
And the fact that it seems the playstation generation can't deal with any scene thats longer then 30 seconds.



chinkypig

18 posts

158 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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Pesty said:
Bit of a guily pleasure but I like the Margaret Rutherford Agatha christie fims paperbag
Shouldn't be a guilty pleasure.
They are smashing films as mentioned in the comfort film thread.
Ditto for the Thin Man series.
I just loaned the Margaret Rutherford box set to a friend and as well as her enjoying them, her nine year old thinks they are fab.

Negative Creep

24,993 posts

228 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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To take a different slant, how about the quasi-legendery Plan 9 From Outer Space? Often cited as the worst film ever made, it is staggeringly incompetent on every level, but has charm by the bucketload and is very entertaining (if not in the way the director intended). I'd recommend it to anyone with an interest in films

Bacardi

2,235 posts

277 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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Ron Goodwin also composed main Battle of Britain theme.

Talking of composers and going back to the Japanese classics, Masaru Sato's score for Yojimbo plays a great part of the movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBw99ghST1g

and appropriately haunting in Throne of Blood:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxhqe6ERV_c&fea...

I always smile at Tony Curtis doing Cary Grant's accent in Some Like it Hot.

Here's a few more Classics worth a mention (if they haven't already)...

Nosferatu (1922)
Duck Soup (1933)
A Night at the Opera (1935)
Modern Times (1936)
Gone with the Wind (1939)
The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1939)

The Big Sleep (1946)
The Great Dictator (1940)
Ikiru (1952)
Scaramouche (1952)
Roman Holiday (1953)
Sabrina (1954)
The Searchers (1956)
Funny Face (1957)
Sweet Smell of Success (1957)
Rio Bravo (1959)

Eric Mc

122,086 posts

266 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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Bacardi said:
I always smile at Tony Curtis doing Cary Grant's accent in Some Like it Hot.
Even funnier when Jack Lemmon takes him to task with HIS rendition of Cary Grant and the line "Nobody talks like that".

cazzer

8,883 posts

249 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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Don't care how many times I've watched that film, it still cracks me up. smile

And she is lovely in that film. (and you know who I mean, not Daphne)

Bacardi

2,235 posts

277 months

Sunday 14th August 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Even funnier when Jack Lemmon takes him to task with HIS rendition of Cary Grant and the line "Nobody talks like that".
hehe


cazzer said:
And she is lovely in that film. (and you know who I mean, not Daphne)
Josephine?

Sugar said:
Water polo? Isn't that terribly dangerous?
Junior speaking like cary Grant said:
I'll say. I had two ponies drowned under me.
hehe