C4 - Shoot to Kill - Osama Bin Laden 07/09/11

C4 - Shoot to Kill - Osama Bin Laden 07/09/11

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6BMW

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2,714 posts

208 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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Did anyone catch this last night? Amazing TV viewing IMHO - alot of it must have been dramatised but I guess it was the closest you could get to a reproduction of what happend on the night they entered abottobad.

Worth a viewing online if you missed it smile


redtwin

7,518 posts

183 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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I watched, thought it was OK, the bit near the end about them obeying Muslim burial practices was a bit far fetched though. Can't see them bothering mainly because they didn't need to.

The helicopter crashing due to backwash or whatever the correct term was had to be embarrassing. All the intel they had on the compound yet they didn't realize the enclosed high walls being an issue.

996c2

470 posts

166 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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Good show, better on 4HD!

redtwin said:
The helicopter crashing due to backwash or whatever the correct term was had to be embarrassing. All the intel they had on the compound yet they didn't realize the enclosed high walls being an issue.
The crash was due to the difference in temperature (and hence air density) inside and outside the wall. The helicopter has to work harder to achieve lift in low density air. To be fair, I think they knew landing a helicopter near a high wall would always be difficult and risky but that's their job!

M400 NBL

3,529 posts

213 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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Really enjoyed it. I wonder whether it would have somehow been leaked, had the Pakistan government been informed prior to the raid.

6BMW

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2,714 posts

208 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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With all that going on at the time I can hardly believe they "tied the kids up out of the way" I reckon they just shot whatever came in front of them kid woman or man!

The whole point of not involving the Pak gov was that they think the ISI is involved with the Al Queeda and Laden would have fled.

The end was also a bit too much I really doubt they did what they showed to his body..

Edited by 6BMW on Thursday 8th September 11:13

jonnylarge

295 posts

170 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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Really enjoyed this too, especially the way the journalists were kept out of the picture (mutliple pizza delivery companies, cars parked in different places, etc), and the goings on at the White House Correspondents ball.

The fact they interviewed Obama added a lot of credibility to the programme. Having to write "The President of the United States of America" below has name everytime it was flash up was peculiar. You got the impression the Go/No Go decision really was with him and was in no way black and white.

Not sure about the bloke with the big lower face and the beard. He spoke of details that only someone involved in such operations would know, yet he looks like a man who the closest to war he has got is by watching The Dambusters.

andy_s

19,404 posts

260 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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I'd say they'd have followed the burial ceremony rigourously (I almost said 'religiously!). They may have learnt a thing or two post-Abu Graib...

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

195 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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Meh....

Wasn't a patch on 'Commando'.


These sort of programs really need Arnie and his cheesy one-liners hehe




Seriously though, a very enjoyable watch.

gmk666

1,673 posts

226 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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Interesting, but surely just a White House sponsored PR exercise?

Raify

6,552 posts

249 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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Spiritual_Beggar said:
Meh....

Wasn't a patch on 'Commando'.


These sort of programs really need Arnie and his cheesy one-liners hehe




Seriously though, a very enjoyable watch.
Arnie glares over the body of the recently shot Bin Laden, lowering his smoking MPK5

Arnie said:
"Looks like he's Jihad enough, where is my Stogie?"

mgmrw

20,951 posts

158 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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As others have said, found it interesting.

TBH I watched primarilly to see how Obama came across, expecting some form of gung-ho Bush style "team america" atmosphere. Was pleasantly surprised when he came across far from this. Could of course be PR spin, BUT he seemed to have an aire of "Nice guy" about him, utterly professional too.

As for the Michael Mann style flash-backs/recreations..... Somewhat OTT, but others may like them, and I guess it stopped it just being interviews.

Speaking of which, one of the seal-interviewees who was retired, should be more careful with his phrasing. The majority of the time, the way he talked theoretically BUT first person, he made it sound like HE PERSONALLY shot dead the most wanted man on earth.

Which opens up a whole lot of worry for his family, in terms of reprisals.

Over-all well worth a watch. Even the OH who deeply despises most things USA found it rather rivetting.

andyjo1982

4,960 posts

211 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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I watched it too and found it quite compelling. Obviousley the sound track had a lot to do with it, but i couldn't help thinking how much adrenoline must've been pumping through those guys when they found out who the target was.

I have a feeling this whole episode will (if it hasn't already) become a level in a forthcoming COD game...

adam85

1,264 posts

192 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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andyjo1982 said:
I have a feeling this whole episode will (if it hasn't already) become a level in a forthcoming COD game...
That's exactly what it reminded me of!

MonkeyBusiness

3,937 posts

188 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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When Obama met the Seals he apparently didn't ask who fired the shots to kill Bin Laden.
I guess we'll never know.

mgmrw

20,951 posts

158 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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MonkeyBusiness said:
When Obama met the Seals he apparently didn't ask who fired the shots to kill Bin Laden.
I guess we'll never know.
One seal somewhere is probably kakking himself when revenge is mentioned

6BMW

Original Poster:

2,714 posts

208 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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Wonder if he'll tell his immediate family "im the one who shot him" LOL !?

mgmrw

20,951 posts

158 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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Wife maybe.

Depends how many of his "mates" say to all they know: "It fking wasn't me dude"

Chuck328

1,581 posts

168 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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He (who took the shot) might not be around to tell if (sadly) those reports are true about the downed chopper a month or so back. I guess we may never know...

mgmrw

20,951 posts

158 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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true frown

AshVX220

5,929 posts

191 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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Does anyone know if this will be repeated anytime soon, I missed it last night. frown