SKY F1 Viewing figures
Discussion
youngsyr said:
Guardian said:
(Bernie) explained that of the 25m households in the UK, "Sky reaches over 10m. We don't get 10m on the BBC, normally about 6m or 7m."
That's some great stat spinning there Bernie, talk about comparing apples with oranges. 
I think the point of what he was saying was the very last paragraph in that article.
The Grauniad said:
He said that "Sky have done a super job", and added that the live rights slipped through the BBC's grasp due to its complacency. "The Beeb were sure we wouldn't be able to go anywhere else," he said.The BBC was unavailable for comment.
He's just blowing a raspberry at the BBC, possibly after having seen the numbers for "The Voice"...davepoth said:
I think the point of what he was saying was the very last paragraph in that article.
Oh right, I'm sure money had nothing to do with it. The Grauniad said:
He said that "Sky have done a super job", and added that the live rights slipped through the BBC's grasp due to its complacency. "The Beeb were sure we wouldn't be able to go anywhere else," he said.The BBC was unavailable for comment.
He's just blowing a raspberry at the BBC, possibly after having seen the numbers for "The Voice"...
Bedazzled said:
Here are the average viewing figures for the Spain and Monaco GPs:
Spain (both live)
BBC - 3,500,000
Sky - 510,000
Monaco (both live)
BBC - 3,130,000
Sky - 560,000
So here's the big question... Are 3m+ viewers on BBC worth more than 500k on Sky to the advertisers? I would have thought so. Clearly people want to watch it, and given the choice they're choosing the BBC's output. As an advertiser or sponsor, I'd be wanting to put my logo in front of 3m+ rather than 500k people, regardless of what Bernie says.Spain (both live)
BBC - 3,500,000
Sky - 510,000
Monaco (both live)
BBC - 3,130,000
Sky - 560,000
If it does go exclusively to Sky, I can't see those 3m BBC viewers deciding to pay for Sky's F1 coverage.
Smitters said:
Interesting figures for me would be:
How many people who have Sky are still choosing to watch the BBC output when live?
What percentage of Sky viewers who can watch the F1 actually watch the F1?
Might not be useful stats, but they strike me as interesting.
Watched the second half or Sundays race live on SKY (via XBox) and the highlights on BBC later.How many people who have Sky are still choosing to watch the BBC output when live?
What percentage of Sky viewers who can watch the F1 actually watch the F1?
Might not be useful stats, but they strike me as interesting.
I think I prefer SKY. Crofty and Brundle are settling in now and becoming a good team. Edwards and Coulthard are Ok but I'll be sticking to SKY just so long as F1 is bundled with the HD subscription.
I think it's a great shame that f1 has left its core viewers and fans that have built up this sport for what it is today!!! How many future fans, supporters, engineers will now bypass this once great sport because mum and dad cannot afford sky f1!!
I have followed f1 religiously never missing a live race for the last 25 years!!
However I have not watched a single race this season, am I the only one that feels it is false racing???
Very let down by the whole thing!!
I have followed f1 religiously never missing a live race for the last 25 years!!
However I have not watched a single race this season, am I the only one that feels it is false racing???
Very let down by the whole thing!!
Pidged said:
I think it's a great shame that f1 has left its core viewers and fans that have built up this sport for what it is today!!! How many future fans, supporters, engineers will now bypass this once great sport because mum and dad cannot afford sky f1!!
I have followed f1 religiously never missing a live race for the last 25 years!!
However I have not watched a single race this season, am I the only one that feels it is false racing???
Very let down by the whole thing!!
a) How can you comment on this season if you haven't watched a single race of it?I have followed f1 religiously never missing a live race for the last 25 years!!
However I have not watched a single race this season, am I the only one that feels it is false racing???
Very let down by the whole thing!!
b) I too have followed F1 for 25 years, but unlike you I haven't cut my nose off to spite my face and have stumped up the extra tenner a month I needed to upgrade from a standard SD Sky package to HD. And I have to say it's so far been superb value for money. The F1 coverage is excellent, I get a load of HD channels and, as an added bonus, I found that I get Motors TV and Eurosport HD as well. The latter gave me full uninterrupted coverage of Le Mans.
Anyway, each to their own.
A) whilst I havnt been watching I have still followed on the websites and podcasts. DRS and inconsistant tyre wear and degridation is what is deciding this years championship. Not driver and team combination, I give an example, if I was to race alonso in his Ferrari. But he has steel bands on his tyres and I am driving my trusty Almera around silverstone chances are I will beat him. Does that make me a better driver?? It's contrived and false and people are lapping it up.
B) you say it is only costing an extra £10 a month on top of ?? What ever it is you were stumping up?? Now it is established the price will only go up!! If the fans voted with their feet and didn't succumb to ecclestones greed then F1 may still fall back to its roots. Driving around circuits where the only spectators are on the start finish line. Shocking!! It is trying to compete with football but unfortunately it draws nowhere near the audience or fan base. And that will only fall in it's heartland -Europe
B) you say it is only costing an extra £10 a month on top of ?? What ever it is you were stumping up?? Now it is established the price will only go up!! If the fans voted with their feet and didn't succumb to ecclestones greed then F1 may still fall back to its roots. Driving around circuits where the only spectators are on the start finish line. Shocking!! It is trying to compete with football but unfortunately it draws nowhere near the audience or fan base. And that will only fall in it's heartland -Europe
Pidged said:
B) you say it is only costing an extra £10 a month on top of ?? What ever it is you were stumping up?? Now it is established the price will only go up!! If the fans voted with their feet and didn't succumb to ecclestones greed then F1 may still fall back to its roots. Driving around circuits where the only spectators are on the start finish line. Shocking!! It is trying to compete with football but unfortunately it draws nowhere near the audience or fan base. And that will only fall in it's heartland -Europe
On top of what I was already paying. I said it cost *me* an extra £10. I think I'm paying a total of £31pcm for my Sky package. I consider it reasonable value for money for what I watch personally, but it's a very personal thing. Equally personally, I think this year's racing is every bit as good as last year's, which was in itself far better than the golden years you seem to yearn for with no restrictions on tyres, with in-race refuelling and no DRS. And what dull and boring years those were!
I am pleased your enjoying it and I hope you continue to do so. It's not yearning for golden years at all, it is about seeing genuine racing, best driver, best team. Not who lucked in with his tyres. I mean Ecclestone was even talking about having sprinklers by the track to turn on, now come on!! The man is a very clever businessman and has done a lot for the sport but I feel and fear that die hard fans will end up paying more and more to watch a lottery.
My fear is the sport will slowly die in europe and slowly move to the east, and this country will loose the last industry which we still are number 1 in the world!
My prediction over the next 10 years.
BBC will loose all live coverage, maybe a highlights program.
Silverstone will price itself out of the market, £175 more this year for the same package I had last year! Hence I am not going.
With crowds and spectators dwindling, no more Brit gp, once the contract expires.
Remember touring cars and what happened there??
F1 has sold itself at its first opportunity of the Concorde agreement expiring. Very sad.
My fear is the sport will slowly die in europe and slowly move to the east, and this country will loose the last industry which we still are number 1 in the world!
My prediction over the next 10 years.
BBC will loose all live coverage, maybe a highlights program.
Silverstone will price itself out of the market, £175 more this year for the same package I had last year! Hence I am not going.
With crowds and spectators dwindling, no more Brit gp, once the contract expires.
Remember touring cars and what happened there??
F1 has sold itself at its first opportunity of the Concorde agreement expiring. Very sad.
Let's not forget it was The BBC that brought about this situation. They dumped F1 fans in favour of two weeks at the Olympics and two weeks at Wimbledon. They effectively blocked Channel Four from bidding and thus keeping F1 free to air.
So far I think SKY has done a surperb job with F1.
However I already had a SKY HD subscription, so it came at no extra cost to me.
Is F1 worth thirty odd quid a month? If you don't want SKY or any of SKY's other HD channels, then in my opinion, probally not.
So far I think SKY has done a surperb job with F1.
However I already had a SKY HD subscription, so it came at no extra cost to me.
Is F1 worth thirty odd quid a month? If you don't want SKY or any of SKY's other HD channels, then in my opinion, probally not.
Smitters said:
How many people who have Sky are still choosing to watch the BBC output when live?
I'll start shall I? Me! So that's 1... 
The next race that I am available to watch live that is Sky only, I will be watching but with 5-Live commentary in the hope that it is far less shouty.
Really hoped for great things from Sky but I just can't stand their coverage.
wiggy001 said:
I'll start shall I? Me! So that's 1...
The next race that I am available to watch live that is Sky only, I will be watching but with 5-Live commentary in the hope that it is far less shouty.
Really hoped for great things from Sky but I just can't stand their coverage.
BBC F1 coverage just isn't the same without Martin Brundle. He's the main reason I listen to the Sky commentary. The next race that I am available to watch live that is Sky only, I will be watching but with 5-Live commentary in the hope that it is far less shouty.
Really hoped for great things from Sky but I just can't stand their coverage.
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