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Poppiecock

943 posts

59 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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If you search Companies House for a lot of these pitches, you'll see that very few actually pass due diligence and secure the investment.

(And, conversely, with Suralan's investments on the Apprentice, you can clearly see his influence on Companies House records.)

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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carl_w said:
also thought the guy would be ideal for a slot on QVC
I watch shark tank and sauces are quick bucks. Infrastructure already in place with this one it's easy money selling on QVC.

sparkythecat

7,905 posts

256 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Thesprucegoose said:
It's marketing, with the social anxiety story the new lady dragon can punt it on QVC.
I think she's going to smear it all over young Will, then eat him.

Legacywr

Original Poster:

12,147 posts

189 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Anybody else laugh when he turned those bike lights on? biggrin

Laurel Green

30,781 posts

233 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Legacywr said:
Anybody else laugh when he turned those bike lights on? biggrin
I did have a bit of a 'WTF' moment. Those clip on the spokes lights would have a similar effect, I'd say.

Felt a tad sorry for the chap as think his heart was in the right place.

hungry_hog

2,249 posts

189 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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Theo back next week in place of Tukar

kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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Laurel Green said:
Legacywr said:
Anybody else laugh when he turned those bike lights on? biggrin
I did have a bit of a 'WTF' moment. Those clip on the spokes lights would have a similar effect, I'd say.

Felt a tad sorry for the chap as think his heart was in the right place.
It was a few metres of electroluminescent string held badly on to the bike frame with cable ties, and looked rubbish.

You can get 5m of the exact same EL string, complete with battery box on Amazon for £8, and probably far less direct from AliExpress or Wish. Why on earth did he think it was worth £50?

Besides, spoke lights or even just a few lines of reflective tape on the frame would actually be more effective when lit by oncoming car headlights.

I would propose that pretty much all the "side on" lighting effects are a waste of time anyway, by the time the driver has seen such lights or reflections in front of him at a junction then you're either so close that being hit is inevitable or far enough away that you'll just carry on across the path of the car and no harm done.


The pasta straw clown, how come none of the dragons pressed him on what it tasted like / how it affected the drink taste (I know it is only flour and water but that still has a slight taste or taint), or on the absolute minefield it would create for anyone with coeliac disease or gluten intolerance? Or the cost per straw, which is immense according to his website prices. Or properly quizzed him on the environmental impact (I know Debs asked him a little bit), those pasta tubes will be (relatively) far far heavier and bulkier than plastic straws, therefore far more environmental damage shipping the things around than an uber lightweight bag of plastic straws. And that's before you get into the environmental cost of the heavier trash that the bars will have to have shipped away, the impact of the water needed to grow the wheat to form the flour etc etc - the list of environmental sins is immense when you start to properly poke into a product like that. What sort of bag does he supply them in to ensure they stay dry and don't decompose on route to the bar/home?

Turn7

23,622 posts

222 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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hungry_hog said:
Theo back next week in place of Tukar
Has Tukar left then ?

p4cks

6,917 posts

200 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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kev1974 said:
The pasta straw clown, how come none of the dragons pressed him on what it tasted like / how it affected the drink taste (I know it is only flour and water but that still has a slight taste or taint), or on the absolute minefield it would create for anyone with coeliac disease or gluten intolerance? Or the cost per straw, which is immense according to his website prices. Or properly quizzed him on the environmental impact (I know Debs asked him a little bit), those pasta tubes will be (relatively) far far heavier and bulkier than plastic straws, therefore far more environmental damage shipping the things around than an uber lightweight bag of plastic straws. And that's before you get into the environmental cost of the heavier trash that the bars will have to have shipped away, the impact of the water needed to grow the wheat to form the flour etc etc - the list of environmental sins is immense when you start to properly poke into a product like that. What sort of bag does he supply them in to ensure they stay dry and don't decompose on route to the bar/home?
The whole plastic straw/environmental impact situation we've found ourselves in is absolutely baffling to me. Why couldn't these environmental people focus on something which will have a greater impact?! Truly baffling.

Bluedot

3,596 posts

108 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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kev1974 said:
The pasta straw clown, how come none of the dragons pressed him on what it tasted like / how it affected the drink taste (I know it is only flour and water but that still has a slight taste or taint), or on the absolute minefield it would create for anyone with coeliac disease or gluten intolerance? Or the cost per straw, which is immense according to his website prices. Or properly quizzed him on the environmental impact (I know Debs asked him a little bit), those pasta tubes will be (relatively) far far heavier and bulkier than plastic straws, therefore far more environmental damage shipping the things around than an uber lightweight bag of plastic straws. And that's before you get into the environmental cost of the heavier trash that the bars will have to have shipped away, the impact of the water needed to grow the wheat to form the flour etc etc - the list of environmental sins is immense when you start to properly poke into a product like that. What sort of bag does he supply them in to ensure they stay dry and don't decompose on route to the bar/home?
I take it you're out then ?
hehe

maniac886

1,214 posts

171 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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Turn7 said:
hungry_hog said:
Theo back next week in place of Tukar
Has Tukar left then ?
Nope - Tukar was suffering from pneumonia so Theo was only a temporary replacement.

Turn7

23,622 posts

222 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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maniac886 said:
Turn7 said:
hungry_hog said:
Theo back next week in place of Tukar
Has Tukar left then ?
Nope - Tukar was suffering from pneumonia so Theo was only a temporary replacement.
Ah, ok..Thanks.

DS240

4,677 posts

219 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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[/quote]The pasta straw clown, how come none of the dragons pressed him on what it tasted like / how it affected the drink taste (I know it is only flour and water but that still has a slight taste or taint), or on the absolute minefield it would create for anyone with coeliac disease or gluten intolerance? Or the cost per straw, which is immense according to his website prices. Or properly quizzed him on the environmental impact (I know Debs asked him a little bit), those pasta tubes will be (relatively) far far heavier and bulkier than plastic straws, therefore far more environmental damage shipping the things around than an uber lightweight bag of plastic straws. And that's before you get into the environmental cost of the heavier trash that the bars will have to have shipped away, the impact of the water needed to grow the wheat to form the flour etc etc - the list of environmental sins is immense when you start to properly poke into a product like that. What sort of bag does he supply them in to ensure they stay dry and don't decompose on route to the bar/home?
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I thought about potential choking risk with a small child biting on them whilst trying to drink.

It certainly wasn’t a worldwide solution to plastic straws.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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There are loads of alternatives to straws, but plastic is used because it is cheap and proven. The easiest way is just ban straws and people drink like a cup.

Bluedot

3,596 posts

108 months

Sunday 1st September 2019
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An app to help with dieting.
sleep

Poppiecock

943 posts

59 months

Sunday 1st September 2019
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Bluedot said:
An app to help with dieting.
sleep
Not really sure why they saw him as investable? - Surely Joe Wickes is the reason why the Body Coach venture was successful? - not that bloke?

Bluedot

3,596 posts

108 months

Sunday 1st September 2019
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Poppiecock said:
Bluedot said:
An app to help with dieting.
sleep
Not really sure why they saw him as investable? - Surely Joe Wickes is the reason why the Body Coach venture was successful? - not that bloke?
And selling his shares in it must now seem a big mistake ? Surprised he got investment.

Mind you, this seamstress....eye watering losses for repairing clothes eek
And I hate the 'disruptive' expression.

Westy Pre-Lit

5,087 posts

204 months

Sunday 1st September 2019
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Can somebody please explain why anybody would buy a tool to pick up a chain thats come off on a bicycle.

Just press the front derailleur and turn the pedals and it goes back on again.

WTF !


anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 1st September 2019
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I'm glad Theo's back.

Poppiecock

943 posts

59 months

Sunday 1st September 2019
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
Can somebody please explain why anybody would buy a tool to pick up a chain thats come off on a bicycle.

Just press the front derailleur and turn the pedals and it goes back on again.

WTF !
Oil. The rear mech. on my hybrid is filthy - and that's the bike I use to get into the office. Plus, you have to hook the chain back onto the front rings, again, getting your fingers filthy.

I liked the product. Not sure Deborah was the right partner - I'd have wanted to negotiate Theo down, as he was the only one who has a retail outlet for this and future products.