Wheeler Dealers
Discussion
Taff107 said:
Personally, my enthusiasm for the show waned when the majority of the vehicles started being US cars. The whole appeal of the show was showing work that could be carried out by anyone with 'average' mechanical knowledge on readily available and 'classic' vehicles.
Their insistence in giving MB ever increasing physical roles in the vehicles 'refurbishment' also reeks of desperation to justify his long passed existence on the show. The show could do without and his usual " 'old out yer 'and!" b
ks easily.
Like the sun roof parts he got 3d printed by his "friends" for a couple of bucks. In the totals shown at the end they were $125 !Their insistence in giving MB ever increasing physical roles in the vehicles 'refurbishment' also reeks of desperation to justify his long passed existence on the show. The show could do without and his usual " 'old out yer 'and!" b
ks easily.
Ant needs to do some research.
He said the siamese ports on the cologne were due to American smog rules.Wrong,all 2.8s had siamese ports.
Also the timing gear,said it was unique to the cologne....no,the essex had them as well.
Rubbish programne
He said the siamese ports on the cologne were due to American smog rules.Wrong,all 2.8s had siamese ports.
Also the timing gear,said it was unique to the cologne....no,the essex had them as well.
Rubbish programne
Edited by V8covin on Thursday 10th January 14:09
Great Thread.
I cant stand the fake / forced friendship between Ant and Mike now. Like to long lost bothers. Considering they've now just worked together for a couple of years, the way they hug and how Mike whorships him on twitter is annoying and so very fake / sickening.
I realise / accept Edd has gone, but Mike is trying to re-write history too soon. There is no `nod` to the previous years and Edd's help. That really annoys me and makes me dislike Mike. Also, Mike on the spanners, please no !
Mike gets so sucked into twitter trolls. Some of the rows he has is amazing. He really needs to learn to ignore / step back.
I don't like the fake Benny Hill like humour either. Ive been watching Iron resurrection. As a team they work well together, no fake friendship, no slagging off, just a chilled out, friendly, honest group of guys. Doesn't need to be Benny Hill with spanners.
i sound like an old moaner here, sorry.
I cant stand the fake / forced friendship between Ant and Mike now. Like to long lost bothers. Considering they've now just worked together for a couple of years, the way they hug and how Mike whorships him on twitter is annoying and so very fake / sickening.
I realise / accept Edd has gone, but Mike is trying to re-write history too soon. There is no `nod` to the previous years and Edd's help. That really annoys me and makes me dislike Mike. Also, Mike on the spanners, please no !
Mike gets so sucked into twitter trolls. Some of the rows he has is amazing. He really needs to learn to ignore / step back.
I don't like the fake Benny Hill like humour either. Ive been watching Iron resurrection. As a team they work well together, no fake friendship, no slagging off, just a chilled out, friendly, honest group of guys. Doesn't need to be Benny Hill with spanners.
i sound like an old moaner here, sorry.
sbk1972 said:
I cant stand the fake / forced friendship between Ant and Mike now. Like to long lost bothers. Considering they've now just worked together for a couple of years, the way they hug and how Mike worships him on twitter is annoying and so very fake / sickening.
There's strong rumours Mike wanted to oust Edd and get Ant in as his replacement since the start of the show's permanent move to California, having circled him like a dog on heat at car shows and the like for months before.Trouble with Mike though is that he's an economical-with-the-truth salesman at heart so getting straight answers from him as to what exactly happened there has proved a futile exercise (and Edd is too much of a gent to spill the beans). Check out some of the Youtube footage of when he's been asked that question to see what I mean.
Funny thing is though - in one of the episodes of this series Ant takes a very subtle dig at Mike for exactly that sort of behaviour.
sbk1972 said:
I don't like the fake Benny Hill like humour either.
Brace yourself for some new lows.Edited by Evercross on Thursday 10th January 15:08
Ive seen the latest series via kodi / bit torrent so I know what you mean about worst still to come. 3000gt was a good one, as was the SRT dodge truck.
I like Ant but after 2 series Ive decided that I prefer Edd.
You get the sense that both Mike and Ant love the American life, love the idea of being the English versions of `Richard Rawlings` fame, and fair play. However I don't get this from Edd, Edd is all about the cars. However, what has happened to Edd ? Ok he did a few youtube stuff, and a few personal appearances, but he certainly has dropped off the radar now. So perhaps Mike isnt as stupid as I think.
Like someone mentioned above, I often do a Mot check on the cars they do ( UK ones) and the results can be quite shocking. I tend to look at the year the show / episode was created, tie it into the mot year and many fail or have many warnings. Some have been heaps.
However, the older series with Edd werent without fault. I was part of a car forum once where someone worked in the unit next to the Wheeler Dealers unit. The stories he told. Many of the cars werent sold and had the crew pretending to buy them. The blue bentley had a fire or something and had to have a replacement dash which costs £1000s. Many of the cars were heaps and sat out in the back for years. I remember seeing a photo of them, it included a white 205, a merc and others. so, the programme is more about entertainment that truly restoring cars.
Has it got many series left ? Probably. Americans seem to love it, maybe it because...... to coin a Mike Phase.... "the wheeler dealer in .." mike. :-)
Regardless good or bad, I will still watch it.
I like Ant but after 2 series Ive decided that I prefer Edd.
You get the sense that both Mike and Ant love the American life, love the idea of being the English versions of `Richard Rawlings` fame, and fair play. However I don't get this from Edd, Edd is all about the cars. However, what has happened to Edd ? Ok he did a few youtube stuff, and a few personal appearances, but he certainly has dropped off the radar now. So perhaps Mike isnt as stupid as I think.
Like someone mentioned above, I often do a Mot check on the cars they do ( UK ones) and the results can be quite shocking. I tend to look at the year the show / episode was created, tie it into the mot year and many fail or have many warnings. Some have been heaps.
However, the older series with Edd werent without fault. I was part of a car forum once where someone worked in the unit next to the Wheeler Dealers unit. The stories he told. Many of the cars werent sold and had the crew pretending to buy them. The blue bentley had a fire or something and had to have a replacement dash which costs £1000s. Many of the cars were heaps and sat out in the back for years. I remember seeing a photo of them, it included a white 205, a merc and others. so, the programme is more about entertainment that truly restoring cars.
Has it got many series left ? Probably. Americans seem to love it, maybe it because...... to coin a Mike Phase.... "the wheeler dealer in .." mike. :-)
Regardless good or bad, I will still watch it.
Zippee said:
I quite like the new series with Ant, the cars are really interesting (loved that little Opel GT for example) and Ant seems to concentrate a little more on the techy stuff that Ed didn't.
Hi Mike. 
I'm inclined to disagree that Ant spends more time on the techie stuff. IMO both covered it quite well when necessary (although Ant bulls
ts more). Oh, and reserve judgement about how interesting the cars are until you've seen the 'new' series.PS. Just caught the one episode of the latest run I still hadn't seen - the VW Rabbit (Golf) GTI. Another oil leak fix?!
Edited by Evercross on Saturday 12th January 14:01
Mike did say on Twitter that he did the first piece to camera saying it was the first Ford Capri they had done then did another piece to camera saying it was the first Mercury Capri they had done but some dunderhead (my word) in the Discovery editing suite put the incorrect bit of film into the finished programme.
CoupeKid said:
Mike did say on Twitter that he did the first piece to camera saying it was the first Ford Capri they had done then did another piece to camera saying it was the first Mercury Capri they had done but some dunderhead (my word) in the Discovery editing suite put the incorrect bit of film into the finished programme.
Yeah, right. Next he'll be alleging that the decision to have (another) Mk1 Golf err... Rabbit GTI in this series had nothing whatsoever to do with Edd's pilot for his own spin-off show featuring one.
Evercross said:
sbk1972 said:
I cant stand the fake / forced friendship between Ant and Mike now. Like to long lost bothers. Considering they've now just worked together for a couple of years, the way they hug and how Mike worships him on twitter is annoying and so very fake / sickening.
There's strong rumours Mike wanted to oust Edd and get Ant in as his replacement since the start of the show's permanent move to California, having circled him like a dog on heat at car shows and the like for months before.Trouble with Mike though is that he's an economical-with-the-truth salesman at heart so getting straight answers from him as to what exactly happened there has proved a futile exercise (and Edd is too much of a gent to spill the beans). Check out some of the Youtube footage of when he's been asked that question to see what I mean.
Funny thing is though - in one of the episodes of this series Ant takes a very subtle dig at Mike for exactly that sort of behaviour.
sbk1972 said:
I don't like the fake Benny Hill like humour either.
Brace yourself for some new lows.Edited by Evercross on Thursday 10th January 15:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78yfDOD0-S0
Police State said:
There's a lot of typical YouTube beef in those comments, but he was probably just telling the truth. Fact is, it was a popular UK produced show and the US wanted it. They lured them both in with bigger budgets and pay checks, but Edd didn't like the direction from the US producers that came with that.I can imagine Edd saying no to the fake arguing that the Yanks seem to love, and getting frustrated with it all.
I like the new show, and I like the old show. It's just TV at the end of the day. People get way too personal about it all.
Muzzer79 said:
At the end of the day, if you don't like Brewer then you probably never have (he hasn't changed and never will)
What's the old saying about familiarity breeding contempt?I used to quite like Mike but he's got zero imagination and it is catching up with him. I can tolerate the repetitive dialogue (or just fast-forward through it) but now he's resorted to remaking old episodes with the same cars, which is especially ironic following the move to America as he should have a bigger pool of cars to choose from.
Mike's sticking to what he knows, but that amounts to UK 1980's car culture. For example, how many times do we need to know that a hot-hatch parcel shelf with no speaker holes is 'as rare as hen's teeth', especially when it probably isn't true of American versions of those cars as they started off rare and have probably been owned by respectful US enthusiasts rather than UK barry boys?
Change of tack needed IMO, and the approach I would suggest would be to showcase how interesting cars of a certain vintage (10-15 years) can be run by youngsters cost-effectively if they are prepared to do some homework on the parts spend and learn a bit of spannering as an alternative to blowing their whole student loan on a new white-goods lease car. There was almost a hint of that in the Volvo T5 episode this series and it would be a good way to expand the show's demographic and tap into a younger audience.
Edited by Evercross on Monday 14th January 20:54
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