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V8covin

7,315 posts

193 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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LuS1fer said:
Yes. In 1975, the list price of a Sprint was £2293.

A Mexico was 1755, RS1600 was 2394 and the RS2000 was 1965.

One of the classic mags pitched one against the RS2000 and HP Firenza which I think the Firenza won but that cost £2625 new. A Magnum 2300 saloon was 1823.

So the Mexico was never a rival...
I wasn't so much talking about the prices as the power and performance

CooperD

2,867 posts

177 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Have to agree with previous posters, I thought it was a very good episode and they did a very decent job with the car.

Strangely Brown

10,067 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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V8covin said:
LuS1fer said:
Yes. In 1975, the list price of a Sprint was £2293.

A Mexico was 1755, RS1600 was 2394 and the RS2000 was 1965.

One of the classic mags pitched one against the RS2000 and HP Firenza which I think the Firenza won but that cost £2625 new. A Magnum 2300 saloon was 1823.

So the Mexico was never a rival...
I wasn't so much talking about the prices as the power and performance
As I remember the adverts at the time the Dolly Sprint was always compared to the BMW 323i.

ETA: Sorry, 320i



Edited by Strangely Brown on Tuesday 21st March 11:43

paulwirral

3,133 posts

135 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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I saw most of it but missed the end , how did the dolly compare to the escort ?
Slightly off topic but I watched it as I once bought a dolly sprint back in god knows what year for a hundred quid , engine sounded like a bag of spanner’s and the oil pressure light was on , I knew it needed a rebuild but decided it was worth it as I limped it slowly back to my builders yard - garage . I pulled the engine and dropped the sump , no wonder it was noisy and the pressure light lit , the clown had filled it full of sawdust to try and muffle the rattling . Somewhat annoyingly I don’t think the bottom end or oil pump were actually knackered when he’d put the sawdust in , the timing chain was the biggest cause of the noise .
I do remember it being a genuinely good car to drive though .

LuS1fer

41,135 posts

245 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Strangely Brown said:
As I remember the adverts at the time the Dolly Sprint was always compared to the BMW 323i.
The E21 BMW six cylinders didn't come along until 1977 - the Sprint came out in 1973 and soldiered on to 1980, in typical BL style.

In 1975, its BMW rival was the 2002 but even the weedy 1602S (85hp) cost £2208, the standard 2 litre 2002 (100hp) was a pricey £2650 while the Tii (130hp) was a massive £3141.

The £2293 Sprint weighed 2214lbs) and had 127hp; an RS2000 (2015lbs) had 100hp: RS1600 (1920lbs) had 120hp.

BMWs of that era were also very sparsely equipped, I think even a radio was an extra.

SydneyBridge

8,609 posts

158 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Bmw's must have been very rare in the UK at the time, probably 90% of cars sold were british built

Smollet

10,574 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Didn’t the Dolly win the BSCC with Andy Rouse at the helm?

Strangely Brown

10,067 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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LuS1fer said:
Strangely Brown said:
As I remember the adverts at the time the Dolly Sprint was always compared to the BMW 323i.
The E21 BMW six cylinders didn't come along until 1977 - the Sprint came out in 1973 and soldiered on to 1980, in typical BL style.

In 1975, its BMW rival was the 2002 but even the weedy 1602S (85hp) cost £2208, the standard 2 litre 2002 (100hp) was a pricey £2650 while the Tii (130hp) was a massive £3141.

The £2293 Sprint weighed 2214lbs) and had 127hp; an RS2000 (2015lbs) had 100hp: RS1600 (1920lbs) had 120hp.

BMWs of that era were also very sparsely equipped, I think even a radio was an extra.
Original post corrected to 320i and advert included.

daqinggregg

1,497 posts

129 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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The comparison between the Sprint and the Mexico was unrealistic, at the launch it was compared with the RS2000/BMW2002. The difference, you sat in the RS2000 as opposed to sitting on the Sprint. In standard trim, the Sprint was slightly quicker, but the RS2000 had more predictable handling.

The overdrive on the Sprint meant it was a very quick cruiser. The car in the episode looked like it had been part way through a restoration when Mike bought it.

I had a 1974 Dolomite Sprint and it was a seriously quick car at the time, just the image was a bit wrong for 19 year old.

V8covin

7,315 posts

193 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Call me cynical but I reckon they swapped a few panels out and the interior mismatched to make it look worse than it was

Smollet

10,574 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Good episode. If the rest are up to this standard it’ll be a very enjoyable series.

SydneyBridge

8,609 posts

158 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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I did notice a 'posh' version of a particular car in the titles, that i never imagined they would ever touch in a million years....

MDifficult

2,045 posts

185 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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SydneyBridge said:
I did notice a 'posh' version of a particular car in the titles, that i never imagined they would ever touch in a million years....
Aggro?

SydneyBridge

8,609 posts

158 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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MDifficult said:
Aggro?
Yeah...

MDifficult

2,045 posts

185 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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SydneyBridge said:
MDifficult said:
Aggro?
Yeah...
Should be a good episode. Combine a few grand, Mike's 'wheeler dealing' nouse and Elvis's F1 experience and I'm sure they can deliver a really shiny piece of st. laugh

(that's not a slight on WD, but it definitely IS a slight on the Aggro)

SydneyBridge

8,609 posts

158 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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It is a VDP but even so...

MDifficult

2,045 posts

185 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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SydneyBridge said:
It is a VDP but even so...
That’s so much worse

skeeterm5

3,349 posts

188 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Liked the Dolly.

But looking online it looks as though they sold it very cheaply for what it was.

thegreenhell

15,346 posts

219 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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All the cool kids are doing Aggros now. Jonny Smith is having one built, and Retropower have just started one as well.

Strangely Brown

10,067 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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skeeterm5 said:
Liked the Dolly.

But looking online it looks as though they sold it very cheaply for what it was.
Maybe it wasn't all that is was made out to be?