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Jazzy Jag said:
Moonhawk said:
thegreenhell said:
This seems to be something that was completely glossed over. The whole premise of the show was that some'baddie' from the future wanted to disrupt the Civil Rights movement, and yet we never learnt anything about who he was or why he specifically wanted to do that. And not a Dalek in sight.
What do you mean. We learnt plenty about his motivation.He was white
He was male
.......erm......what more do you want?
I tell you what gets me its the havoc this t
t causes. Picks a fight with the cybermen fine then leaves that poor guy to look after a whole village of them on another floor knowing the cybermen will find them.Does she give a f
k noDid she apologise to Adrics family when he was killed no
She just goes on and people are discarded. The reality of Dr Who is that the central character is a person fully self absorbed whose friends often get killed and he/ she just moves on
This aspect of the character isn't explored anything like enough and its time the BBC recognised this and showed the doctor apologising for the many deaths he has been involved in
techiedave said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Moonhawk said:
thegreenhell said:
This seems to be something that was completely glossed over. The whole premise of the show was that some'baddie' from the future wanted to disrupt the Civil Rights movement, and yet we never learnt anything about who he was or why he specifically wanted to do that. And not a Dalek in sight.
What do you mean. We learnt plenty about his motivation.He was white
He was male
.......erm......what more do you want?
I tell you what gets me its the havoc this t
t causes. Picks a fight with the cybermen fine then leaves that poor guy to look after a whole village of them on another floor knowing the cybermen will find them.Does she give a f
k noDid she apologise to Adrics family when he was killed no
She just goes on and people are discarded. The reality of Dr Who is that the central character is a person fully self absorbed whose friends often get killed and he/ she just moves on
This aspect of the character isn't explored anything like enough and its time the BBC recognised this and showed the doctor apologising for the many deaths he has been involved in
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tangerine_sedge said:
anonymous said:
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Its Political Correctness gone mad!! A female Doctor and a story about civil rights, it's a gammons nightmare!
In terms of the white male bad guy hyperbole: Its a constant talking point of the SJW's how media affects society. Look at gamer gate for example the whole argument was that games were sexist as they didn't have enough women and over sexualised them. By their own logic if you keep showing white men as racists and perpetuate the patriarchy trope it will become culturally accepted that this is the case. Seeing as not everyone of one identity type is homogeneous its a preposterous notion. There should be equal representation across good and bad by the lefts own logic. Hoisted by their own petard.
anonymous said:
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On the contrary I thought that this weeks episode was well written, and acted and shot for that matter. Ok the ending was a bit school history lesson, but I liked the way they incorporated the new companions and the reality of the scenario they were in, I thought that was rather well done, and didn't shy away from the actuality of Fifties America. Look up the Wiki entry for lynching, it's like the sort thing you'd expect from Islamic State. I have to say having a female lead in this sort of role isn't an issue for me, because the Doctor is often quite an androgynous or childlike personality anyway, even when played by male actors. The key is that the characterisation is right. I really do like Bradley Walsh in it too, he does make a good everyman.
I thought it was rather well done, with one caveat.
That being that there was not one white local that was not a horrible racist. Surely, even in those times, in that place, some dissenters to the norm would have existed? Would it not have been out of the question to have a waitress or the like at least look vaguely sympathetic or guilty when presenting them out?
Everyone is evil was a tad heavy handed, approach wise.
That being that there was not one white local that was not a horrible racist. Surely, even in those times, in that place, some dissenters to the norm would have existed? Would it not have been out of the question to have a waitress or the like at least look vaguely sympathetic or guilty when presenting them out?
Everyone is evil was a tad heavy handed, approach wise.
warch said:
anonymous said:
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On the contrary I thought that this weeks episode was well written, and acted and shot for that matter. Ok the ending was a bit school history lesson, but I liked the way they incorporated the new companions and the reality of the scenario they were in, I thought that was rather well done, and didn't shy away from the actuality of Fifties America. Look up the Wiki entry for lynching, it's like the sort thing you'd expect from Islamic State. warch said:
anonymous said:
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I thought the feeling of guilt they felt was that they were complicit, as white people occupying seats on the bus in Rosa Parks being forced to act as she did so she got arrested/lost her job etc.Tuna said:
I think the difference of opinion comes down to the idea that this episode was a perfectly well written bit of TV drama (if a little preachy), but there was virtually nothing in it that was specifically 'Who'. You couldn't separate this from an episode of Quantum Leap or Timeless. The time travel part was just a MacGuffin to compare contemporary attitudes with the attitudes of the time.
My thoughts exactly. DoctorX said:
Tuna said:
I think the difference of opinion comes down to the idea that this episode was a perfectly well written bit of TV drama (if a little preachy), but there was virtually nothing in it that was specifically 'Who'. You couldn't separate this from an episode of Quantum Leap or Timeless. The time travel part was just a MacGuffin to compare contemporary attitudes with the attitudes of the time.
My thoughts exactly. Rumblestripe said:
Yeah this. Graeme (BW) didn't want to be the one forcing RP to give up her seat, he part of the white oppression but he had to do it to make the protest happen
I actually thought that part was particularly well done and was particularly poignant given the relationship relationship he was in. The dilemma of being put into a situation of having to do something you feel is absolutely abhorrent, but knowing you have to see it through as it will ultimately be for the greater good.
DoctorX said:
Tuna said:
I think the difference of opinion comes down to the idea that this episode was a perfectly well written bit of TV drama (if a little preachy), but there was virtually nothing in it that was specifically 'Who'. You couldn't separate this from an episode of Quantum Leap or Timeless. The time travel part was just a MacGuffin to compare contemporary attitudes with the attitudes of the time.
My thoughts exactly. 
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