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TheAngryDog said:
I am just not warming to JW sadly, the way she speaks makes her sound a little stupid, and with all these "celebs" being wheeled out, it is almost like the writers / BBC / Chibnall expected it to be poor, so thought that having them in would help boost it. It hasn't.
I don't understand why people are so riled up about the Ed Sheeran references. The joke was that the Doctor has not the slightest interest in celebrity, and can't tell one human apart from the next. She vaguely knows that Ed Sheeran is someone famous, so when introduced to someone famous asks "are you Ed Sheeran?"Not name dropping, in fact the complete opposite. She does not know or care who Ed Sheeran (or the high and mighty boss man) is.
Tuna said:
TheAngryDog said:
I am just not warming to JW sadly, the way she speaks makes her sound a little stupid, and with all these "celebs" being wheeled out, it is almost like the writers / BBC / Chibnall expected it to be poor, so thought that having them in would help boost it. It hasn't.
I don't understand why people are so riled up about the Ed Sheeran references. The joke was that the Doctor has not the slightest interest in celebrity, and can't tell one human apart from the next. She vaguely knows that Ed Sheeran is someone famous, so when introduced to someone famous asks "are you Ed Sheeran?"Not name dropping, in fact the complete opposite. She does not know or care who Ed Sheeran (or the high and mighty boss man) is.
In the last episode they had Chris Noth (of Sex and the City fame) and Shobna Gulati (Coronation Street). I do not recall there being too many celebs over the course of the series since Christopher Ecclestone. I know there were some, but this series seems to be full of them. In fact they made a point of showing them all at the end of the first episode, which they never did before. So to me it suggests that they were concerned about it not being received well so have "propped" it up.
TheAngryDog said:
I'm not and you missed my point.
In the last episode they had Chris Noth (of Sex and the City fame) and Shobna Gulati (Coronation Street). I do not recall there being too many celebs over the course of the series since Christopher Ecclestone. I know there were some, but this series seems to be full of them. In fact they made a point of showing them all at the end of the first episode, which they never did before. So to me it suggests that they were concerned about it not being received well so have "propped" it up.
You have a low bar for your definition of "celeb". If they were wheeling out Tom Cruise every episode then you might have a point, but the people you reference are more commonly known as "actors". Which is sort of what you want when you're looking for people to appear in your TV show.In the last episode they had Chris Noth (of Sex and the City fame) and Shobna Gulati (Coronation Street). I do not recall there being too many celebs over the course of the series since Christopher Ecclestone. I know there were some, but this series seems to be full of them. In fact they made a point of showing them all at the end of the first episode, which they never did before. So to me it suggests that they were concerned about it not being received well so have "propped" it up.
Tuna said:
TheAngryDog said:
I am just not warming to JW sadly, the way she speaks makes her sound a little stupid, and with all these "celebs" being wheeled out, it is almost like the writers / BBC / Chibnall expected it to be poor, so thought that having them in would help boost it. It hasn't.
I don't understand why people are so riled up about the Ed Sheeran references. The joke was that the Doctor has not the slightest interest in celebrity, and can't tell one human apart from the next. She vaguely knows that Ed Sheeran is someone famous, so when introduced to someone famous asks "are you Ed Sheeran?"Not name dropping, in fact the complete opposite. She does not know or care who Ed Sheeran (or the high and mighty boss man) is.
anonymous said:
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Not really related to Dr Who (who mostly doesn't like violence, unless the storyline requires it ;0 )Play fighting and/or rough & tumble play shows significant sexual dimorphism across all great apes, and is an understood part of developmental behaviour especially in males.
Interestingly a very high proportion of children can identify play vs real fights as can adult men, however adult women (who did not grow up with brothers) cannot, in fact will default to believing all play fights are real.
Once into adolescence it becomes more about dominance hierarchies in males, so still needs supervision as it can escalate, it tends not to occur in established groups older groups.
Rough&Tumble play has also shown to be effective in helping ADHD children self-manage (ADHD being between 3:1 and 16:1 MALE:FEMALE).
So it is a very male behaviour, and very positive for male development, but has to be supported by parents/adults. As an example, one of the guidance's for parents is that it should end with a parent being gently but firmly dominant.
Anyway, not my favourite Dr, when I heard it was to be from the Broadchurch cast, I really wanted it to be Olivia Coleman, she'd have been epic IMHO.
deckster said:
TheAngryDog said:
I'm not and you missed my point.
In the last episode they had Chris Noth (of Sex and the City fame) and Shobna Gulati (Coronation Street). I do not recall there being too many celebs over the course of the series since Christopher Ecclestone. I know there were some, but this series seems to be full of them. In fact they made a point of showing them all at the end of the first episode, which they never did before. So to me it suggests that they were concerned about it not being received well so have "propped" it up.
You have a low bar for your definition of "celeb". If they were wheeling out Tom Cruise every episode then you might have a point, but the people you reference are more commonly known as "actors". Which is sort of what you want when you're looking for people to appear in your TV show.In the last episode they had Chris Noth (of Sex and the City fame) and Shobna Gulati (Coronation Street). I do not recall there being too many celebs over the course of the series since Christopher Ecclestone. I know there were some, but this series seems to be full of them. In fact they made a point of showing them all at the end of the first episode, which they never did before. So to me it suggests that they were concerned about it not being received well so have "propped" it up.
Alex said:
wsurfa said:
Anyway, not my favourite Dr, when I heard it was to be from the Broadchurch cast, I really wanted it to be Olivia Coleman, she'd have been epic IMHO.
She would. Still think it is a shame that a decent male role model has been taken away from young boys.
What other role models are there for young lads, who still watched as teenagers, that are on TV?
Role models who don't go round killing things but win the day with brains and compassion?
gizlaroc said:
What other role models are there for young lads, who still watched as teenagers, that are on TV?
Role models who don't go round killing things but win the day with brains and compassion?
Also, there's very little feminine about Jodie Whitaker's portrayal. She's basically playing David Tennant.Role models who don't go round killing things but win the day with brains and compassion?
deckster said:
You have a low bar for your definition of "celeb". If they were wheeling out Tom Cruise every episode then you might have a point, but the people you reference are more commonly known as "actors". Which is sort of what you want when you're looking for people to appear in your TV show.
You do realise just how popular Ed Sheeran is?Ask any youngster if they know Ed Sheeran or Tom Cruise and I bet far more will know Ed Sheeran than Cruise.
He was voted as the person to get the Blue Peter Gold Badge for their 60th anniversary, which I would guess is the Dr. Who demographic.
I don't know his stuff, but I to think he is not a celeb is missing the mark somewhat.
gizlaroc said:
deckster said:
You have a low bar for your definition of "celeb". If they were wheeling out Tom Cruise every episode then you might have a point, but the people you reference are more commonly known as "actors". Which is sort of what you want when you're looking for people to appear in your TV show.
You do realise just how popular Ed Sheeran is?Ask any youngster if they know Ed Sheeran or Tom Cruise and I bet far more will know Ed Sheeran than Cruise.
deckster said:
Do keep up at the back. This isn't about Ed. This is about the apparently wildly famous "celebs" (mustn't forget the quotes) Chris Noth (of Sex and the City fame) and Shobna Gulati (Coronation Street).
Remind me again just how far back "guest starring" and "special guest star" credits go on TV series? They even went on TV movies, and cinema features, despite the fact that there was just one "episode" and the cast was just the cast. It really isn't a new departure for those what make our TV shows.If you're bored with Dr Who and modern TV screenwriters, perhaps SKY Arts has just the thing for you? Re-runs of 'Tales Of The Unexpected'. I've watched most of season 1, all of season 2, and I'm well into season 3 now, with some of season 9 on my recorder upstairs. Lots of other episodes got recorded, but they were deleted (timed out) due to my series link settings, and even fell off the "recently deleted" list.
Not the same, I know, as there were no real recurring characters week-to-week, but it's stuffed full of really big name actors, appearing in really rather dodgy 25 minute shorts, with the famously big-budget 1980s TV industry sets and dramatisation. It's worth watching for a laugh, but you'll need specs with a seriously rosy tint in the lenses. Just like harking back to the "good old days" of Dr Who, I imagine...
gizlaroc said:
That would have been much better.
Still think it is a shame that a decent male role model has been taken away from young boys.
What other role models are there for young lads, who still watched as teenagers, that are on TV?
Role models who don't go round killing things but win the day with brains and compassion?
Trump.Still think it is a shame that a decent male role model has been taken away from young boys.
What other role models are there for young lads, who still watched as teenagers, that are on TV?
Role models who don't go round killing things but win the day with brains and compassion?
Edited by mygoldfishbowl on Friday 2nd November 13:07
Dr Who Christmas special will not be a Christmas special
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-chr...
It is as if they are doing whatever they can to flip things around
There is unlikely to be a series next year too
Personally I think they are risking a lot and it may come back to bite them
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-chr...
It is as if they are doing whatever they can to flip things around
There is unlikely to be a series next year too
Personally I think they are risking a lot and it may come back to bite them
techiedave said:
Dr Who Christmas special will not be a Christmas special
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-chr...
It is as if they are doing whatever they can to flip things around
There is unlikely to be a series next year too
Personally I think they are risking a lot and it may come back to bite them
The BBC is just afraid of offending people who don't celebrate Christmas.https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-chr...
It is as if they are doing whatever they can to flip things around
There is unlikely to be a series next year too
Personally I think they are risking a lot and it may come back to bite them
b
ks to those that do.
LoonyTunes said:
It's losing it's gravitas for me. I know it was originally a kids program but it always had an adult (almost dark) sensibility to it. Especially the original Hartnell series.
It seems to swapping this for all out saturday morning kiddie thrills now.
Why is 'kids programmme used as a prefix for something not as well crafted? Kid's shows can be as well written, acted, plotted, directed and executed as any 'adult' show. Having a quick check on wiki Dr Who was meant to be family based educational stuff, but when I watched it as a kid, the repeats that is, it was just great adventure.It seems to swapping this for all out saturday morning kiddie thrills now.
I tried to watch the new stuff, rather liked Eccleston's take, but one can see there at the start the hubris of the writer, it just wasn't as good.
"The move comes after bosses claimed they had “run out” of Yuletide storylines following 13 years of making them."
Chibnall has only been there this year and I thought the whole idea of him replacing Moffatt was to bring new ideas to the show? He hasn't written a Christmas episode yet so he should be able to come up with at least one idea.
Chibnall has only been there this year and I thought the whole idea of him replacing Moffatt was to bring new ideas to the show? He hasn't written a Christmas episode yet so he should be able to come up with at least one idea.
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