Dr Who… Awesome News If You're A Fan

Dr Who… Awesome News If You're A Fan

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tangerine_sedge

4,774 posts

218 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
"The move comes after bosses claimed they had “run out” of Yuletide storylines following 13 years of making them."

Chibnall has only been there this year and I thought the whole idea of him replacing Moffatt was to bring new ideas to the show? He hasn't written a Christmas episode yet so he should be able to come up with at least one idea.
This is great news, I can't think of 1 Xmas episode that was actually any good.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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tangerine_sedge said:
This is great news, I can't think of 1 Xmas episode that was actually any good.
The way this has gone I will bet on The Dr defeating Father Christmas (Male=Bad/Idiot/Aggressive) who is really a Space Frog shape shifter and reinstating the true Mother Christmas

Jazzy Jag

3,422 posts

91 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
tangerine_sedge said:
This is great news, I can't think of 1 Xmas episode that was actually any good.
The way this has gone I will bet on The Dr defeating Father Christmas (Male=Bad/Idiot/Aggressive) who is really a Space Frog shape shifter and reinstating the true Mother Christmas
But Christmas is a Christian thing so also = bad.

Maybe Mother Winterfest?

PositronicRay

27,012 posts

183 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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Am I one of the few people who enjoy it!

I can understand the stories and simple messages (it's a kids program after all) The actors are personable, what's not to like.

tangerine_sedge

4,774 posts

218 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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PositronicRay said:
Am I one of the few people who enjoy it!

I can understand the stories and simple messages (it's a kids program after all) The actors are personable, what's not to like.
The ratings are good and the audience appreciation score is good, but it seems to be getting attacked here for some reason.

silentbrown

8,832 posts

116 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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gizlaroc said:
deckster said:
You have a low bar for your definition of "celeb". If they were wheeling out Tom Cruise every episode then you might have a point, but the people you reference are more commonly known as "actors". Which is sort of what you want when you're looking for people to appear in your TV show.
You do realise just how popular Ed Sheeran is?

Ask any youngster if they know Ed Sheeran or Tom Cruise and I bet far more will know Ed Sheeran than Cruise.


He was voted as the person to get the Blue Peter Gold Badge for their 60th anniversary, which I would guess is the Dr. Who demographic.


I don't know his stuff, but I to think he is not a celeb is missing the mark somewhat.
Whoosh parrot for you. "celeb" discussion is about the "guest star" actors in the last episode, not the name-dropping of real people (Sheeran/Banksy/Trump/Sinatra/Elvis, etc...)

defblade

7,434 posts

213 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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tangerine_sedge said:
PositronicRay said:
Am I one of the few people who enjoy it!

I can understand the stories and simple messages (it's a kids program after all) The actors are personable, what's not to like.
The ratings are good and the audience appreciation score is good, but it seems to be getting attacked here for some reason.
The writing is terrible, and is pushing an agenda with zero subtlety, that's why.

It's perfectly possible to achieve these things (entertain children and adults together, while commenting on social issues relevant to the time by analogy) with great effect - Star Trek was doing exactly that 50-odd years ago.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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Nimby said:
Black Mirror?

The only "proper" British SF series I can think of is Star Cops, 1987. I thought it was rather good.
I've never seen any Black Mirror, I'll have to catch it.

I always think of First Born when I think of great UK sci-fi, not sure if that would get made today.

Rumblestripe

2,937 posts

162 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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defblade said:
The writing is terrible, and is pushing an agenda with zero subtlety, that's why.

It's perfectly possible to achieve these things (entertain children and adults together, while commenting on social issues relevant to the time by analogy) with great effect - Star Trek was doing exactly that 50-odd years ago.
Star Trek was incredibly "liberal" for its time. A female black officer (who famously snogged the white captain), a russian and an oriental officer, etc. Roddenberry was "committed to a liberalism that believed in prosperity, technological progress, and universal humanity"

Doofus

25,817 posts

173 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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Roddenberry overtly put the minorities into Star Trek because of his liberal POV.

The BBC has form for pretending they hadn't even noticed that they'd managed to cast such a broad spectrum of modern society.

Inclusive is fine and admirable. Claiming that you're so inclusive that you hadn't even realised how inclusive you are is not.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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Halb said:
I've never seen any Black Mirror, I'll have to catch it.

I always think of First Born when I think of great UK sci-fi, not sure if that would get made today.
Remember watching that, fantastic mini series (less than 5 episodes IIRC)

Rumblestripe

2,937 posts

162 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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Doofus said:
Claiming that you're so inclusive that you hadn't even realised how inclusive you are is not.
Sorry, struggling with your logic here...

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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Rumblestripe said:
Doofus said:
Claiming that you're so inclusive that you hadn't even realised how inclusive you are is not.
Sorry, struggling with your logic here...
You should work for the Beeb. wink

Doofus

25,817 posts

173 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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Rumblestripe said:
Doofus said:
Claiming that you're so inclusive that you hadn't even realised how inclusive you are is not.
Sorry, struggling with your logic here...
To my mind, the BBC try so hard to include every possible minority that it becomes obvious they've actively sat down with a list of tick boxes, and ticked as many as they can, even if the story doesn't require it, and they have to shoehorn it all in ("I'm your niece's fiancée." being a case-in-point).

Perhaps I'm over-sensitive to it, but it feels like they haven't actually stopped putting people into seperate boxes, in order that they can off-handedly (but often clumsily) show us how many boxes they managed to tick each time.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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5 mins in, male pregnancy. Whooopee.

jagnet

4,111 posts

202 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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Doofus said:
To my mind, the BBC try so hard to include every possible minority that it becomes obvious they've actively sat down with a list of tick boxes, and ticked as many as they can, even if the story doesn't require it
This should come as no surprise given that Dr Who S11 really is the poster child of the BBC's equality and diversity ambitions:




ecsrobin

17,118 posts

165 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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tangerine_sedge said:
PositronicRay said:
Am I one of the few people who enjoy it!

I can understand the stories and simple messages (it's a kids program after all) The actors are personable, what's not to like.
The ratings are good and the audience appreciation score is good, but it seems to be getting attacked here for some reason.
Their Facebook account is also mainly people complaining about poor script writing.

I’m not bothering watching tonight or anymore until there’s a change in writers or everyone suddenly says watch a certain episode.

languagetimothy

1,090 posts

162 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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...anyone fancy a pint?, in mean it's going a bit isn't it...

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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No just no. I've tried watching it with an open mind but there are too many companions and she just doesn't gell for me personally

I like ITV's sense of humour. They put a Chase Celebrity Special up against it with host ……… Bradley Walsh

ecsrobin

17,118 posts

165 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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jagnet said:
Doofus said:
To my mind, the BBC try so hard to include every possible minority that it becomes obvious they've actively sat down with a list of tick boxes, and ticked as many as they can, even if the story doesn't require it
This should come as no surprise given that Dr Who S11 really is the poster child of the BBC's equality and diversity ambitions:

I thought this was a piss take but no it’s true! https://www.bbc.co.uk/diversity/strategy/eir-2018