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omgus

7,305 posts

176 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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monthefish said:
Great film.

I, too, was late to the party due to the ambiguous title, and sawit a couple o years after it came out, but definitely one of my favourites now.


Pixel Pusher said:
The book is great too.
I bought (and started reading) the book a few months ago (following a recommendation on here) but I'm not enjoying it that much. If you've seen the film, I'd say don't bother with the book.
I like the book and i like the film, but they very different.

The Sniper scene in the book is fking ace.

P-Jay

10,579 posts

192 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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omgus said:
monthefish said:
Great film.

I, too, was late to the party due to the ambiguous title, and sawit a couple o years after it came out, but definitely one of my favourites now.


Pixel Pusher said:
The book is great too.
I bought (and started reading) the book a few months ago (following a recommendation on here) but I'm not enjoying it that much. If you've seen the film, I'd say don't bother with the book.
I like the book and i like the film, but they very different.

The Sniper scene in the book is fking ace.
I was genuinely shocked the first time I saw that scene in the film, being such a fan of the book, I won't spoil it, but up to that point they both follow the same story largely, but that scene has a very different outcome in the book.

omgus

7,305 posts

176 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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yes

Very!

The book did make me laugh a when you realise what's happened.

monthefish

20,443 posts

232 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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P-Jay said:
I was genuinely shocked the first time I saw that scene in the film, being such a fan of the book, I won't spoil it, but up to that point they both follow the same story largely, but that scene has a very different outcome in the book.
I haven't reached that bit in the book yet, but I would say that the two stories are very different.
All the stuff in the book about going over to the Northern Gangsters house for dinner and doobies, and going round the other guys flat and smashing it up etc, is completely different.


I think that might be why I'm not enjoying the book as they're similar but quite different.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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monthefish said:
I haven't reached that bit in the book yet, but I would say that the two stories are very different.
All the stuff in the book about going over to the Northern Gangsters house for dinner and doobies, and going round the other guys flat and smashing it up etc, is completely different.


I think that might be why I'm not enjoying the book as they're similar but quite different.
The main character is very different, more of a tearaway in the book. So more believable but part of the point of the film isn't there.

P-Jay

10,579 posts

192 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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monthefish said:
P-Jay said:
I was genuinely shocked the first time I saw that scene in the film, being such a fan of the book, I won't spoil it, but up to that point they both follow the same story largely, but that scene has a very different outcome in the book.
I haven't reached that bit in the book yet, but I would say that the two stories are very different.
All the stuff in the book about going over to the Northern Gangsters house for dinner and doobies, and going round the other guys flat and smashing it up etc, is completely different.


I think that might be why I'm not enjoying the book as they're similar but quite different.
You're probably right, I haven't read it in a few years, and I forget at what part of the story the non-film bits happened - does that make sense?

I guess, in the film version, being a film the characters are more polarised, there's the good drug dealers and the bad drug dealers and they act accordingly - in the book they're all bad people, you just have to root for the protagonist.

One aspect of the film I really didn't like was the way Jimmy Price is portrayed a complete buffoon, in the book he's a ruthless controlling man who is more likely to have gotten to where he was. Clarkie is terrible in the film too, "double first in chemistry" and comes across as an extra from 'made in Chelsea' you just don't believe he came from that background to where he is in the film.

Mastiff

2,515 posts

242 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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Firmly in top 5 films of all time.

I hate guns! ... although, that one is very pretty.

England. Typical. Even drug dealers don't work weekends



RemyMartin

6,759 posts

206 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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The scene in the cafe where Morty beats up Freddie, is both terrifying and exhilarating.

If I ever had to beat someone up I'd love be that brutal....obviously I'm sane and nice and never will

I went to see it at the pictures and just an epic scene soon as you hear Duran duran...you know what's coming


Edited by RemyMartin on Wednesday 29th May 16:54

Bobley

699 posts

150 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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epom said:
darreni said:
epom said:
clarkmagpie said:
Plus the RS6 cloud9
Really great film.
Oh and Sienna Miller looking damn fine.
Agreed with all of the above except for the RS6 bit.... Was an RS4 as I've wanted one since smile
No, it was an RS6 with RS4 wheels.
Was it really ?? eek wow, need to watch that again later. Apologies darreni drink
It was def an RS6 because about 18 months after release that very RS6 was advertised on Pistonheads classifieds. I put the DVD in and double checked. I was tempted to sell my daily driver and Caterham and just use the RS6 to do both duties but the running costs would be a lot higher.


HOGEPH

5,249 posts

187 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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If you liked the book, try the follow up, "Viva La Madness".

NBTBRV8

2,062 posts

209 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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HOGEPH said:
If you liked the book, try the follow up, "Viva La Madness".
Thanks, I didn't know there was a follow up.

RizzoTheRat

25,191 posts

193 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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Cracking film, never realised it was a book too, may have to give the book a go.

My other favorite british gangster film has to be Love Honour and Obey.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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RizzoTheRat said:
Cracking film, never realised it was a book too, may have to give the book a go.
I bought it on Friday based on this thread. Already an interesting read.
Bit weird that some scenes that take large chunks of the film are delegated to mere lines in the book (the whole Kilburn Jerry episode explaining Morty's time inside for example), and vice versa...entire paragraphs get reduced to a quick flashbacks in the film.

omgus

7,305 posts

176 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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NBTBRV8 said:
HOGEPH said:
If you liked the book, try the follow up, "Viva La Madness".
Thanks, I didn't know there was a follow up.
I have attempted Viva La Madness twice now and it just doesn't seem to grab me as much.

Will have t give it a go again.

Miguel Alvarez

4,944 posts

171 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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RizzoTheRat said:
Cracking film, never realised it was a book too, may have to give the book a go.

My other favorite british gangster film has to be Love Honour and Obey.
Great film.


P-Jay

10,579 posts

192 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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omgus said:
NBTBRV8 said:
HOGEPH said:
If you liked the book, try the follow up, "Viva La Madness".
Thanks, I didn't know there was a follow up.
I have attempted Viva La Madness twice now and it just doesn't seem to grab me as much.

Will have t give it a go again.
It's not nearly as good sadly. Story is a bit of a mess, I have the feeling based on what was said after the first one that it was completed, then re-written with an eye on cashing in on a big budget film adaption.

Don't think it made many waves in the bestseller charts so I doubt there will be 3rd.

monthefish

20,443 posts

232 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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daveydave7 said:
I always think of that and Sexy Beast in the same sentence I fact I may pop on Sexy Beast now
Never seen, nor even heard of, Sexy Beast.

Is it really good enough to be mentioned in the same sentence as Layer Cake?

illmonkey

18,211 posts

199 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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monthefish said:
daveydave7 said:
I always think of that and Sexy Beast in the same sentence I fact I may pop on Sexy Beast now
Never seen, nor even heard of, Sexy Beast.

Is it really good enough to be mentioned in the same sentence as Layer Cake?
Yes.

Snatch on Thursday 10pm, comedy central too. (and Sat)

Mastiff

2,515 posts

242 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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monthefish said:
Never seen, nor even heard of, Sexy Beast.

Is it really good enough to be mentioned in the same sentence as Layer Cake?
Oh yes

Do not miss this film.

Art0ir

9,402 posts

171 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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monthefish said:
daveydave7 said:
I always think of that and Sexy Beast in the same sentence I fact I may pop on Sexy Beast now
Never seen, nor even heard of, Sexy Beast.

Is it really good enough to be mentioned in the same sentence as Layer Cake?
Sexy Beast is superb.

I'd never paid attention to it because of the stupid name (stupid of me in hindsight), however once I heard Ray Wintstone plays lead I rented and really enjoyed it.

Ben Kingsley is also phenomenal in it.

I'd be useless...
Useless?
I would be...
In what way?
In every fking way...
Why are you swearing? I'm not swearing.