Line of Duty (BBC Police Drama)
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I think we are supposed to think that Denton has fitted up the DCC. If this is what indeed has happened then the final episode will be the completion of the enquiry. However, I can' believe there will be no further twists and turns. I would guess that the penultimate scene will turn things around.
I thought the interview a little false, but then it's only TV and it was hardly unique.
There are some excellent performances, and the writing is good as well.
A first class series. Consistent high quality.
I thought the interview a little false, but then it's only TV and it was hardly unique.
There are some excellent performances, and the writing is good as well.
A first class series. Consistent high quality.
DSLiverpool said:
The one thing that has thrown me was the Bill Fleming took from her pigeon hole asking for payment of £21k iirc up until then I was sure it's Hastings to get promotion
Err, it was only £212 
Had me gripped tonight. I thought the interview scene was brilliant actually. I like that they seem to keep a lot of the formality of an interview in there (not that I would know what goes one!), with the whole waiting for the tape, reference to specific documents etc. Nowhere near as fantastical as crime dramas normally play the interviews.
I think Dryden is guilty of under-age sex and doing a Chris Huhne, but not of being the mastermind behind it all.
The video of the protected witness is quite a well known Scottish actor, maybe too well known just to have that small cameo - maybe he's still alive and this is all pay back at Dryden for not granting him welching on his immunity deal.
Bolly Knickers looking like the cat who got the cream at the end and the 'what did you tell them' in the car park surely is to make us think she really is guilty, but how? How could she have engineered all this just as pay back for losing her baby.
Hastings is in debt, we know that, but don't think he is bent.
The video of the protected witness is quite a well known Scottish actor, maybe too well known just to have that small cameo - maybe he's still alive and this is all pay back at Dryden for not granting him welching on his immunity deal.
Bolly Knickers looking like the cat who got the cream at the end and the 'what did you tell them' in the car park surely is to make us think she really is guilty, but how? How could she have engineered all this just as pay back for losing her baby.
Hastings is in debt, we know that, but don't think he is bent.
DSLiverpool said:
The one thing that has thrown me was the Bill Fleming took from her pigeon hole asking for payment of £21k iirc up until then I was sure it's
I stopped the Sky Box then and it showed £2.50, 4 x £50s and the additional £9.50 was deleted (redacted?). I wondered if that meant they were hiding something.I'm with you. It is obviously a feature of the plot but I can't fit it in.
The norm is that the brains behind it all will be someone we have no suspicion of.
But a debt of £212.00 doesn't seem much of a motive to me.
Going to be a cracking finale, the interview scene at the end was powerful as f
k, I don't think Dryden is the man behind all this, if he was, they would have nabbed him in this episode, I reckon someone is fking him over, either its that guy with the glasses, Hargreaves, or its Denton, think we've all been suckered into believing shes a fighter, and that the world is against her.
The scene with Fleming in the hotel with the £212 bill is something to watch out for too I reckon, they wouldn't have shown it otherwise.
k, I don't think Dryden is the man behind all this, if he was, they would have nabbed him in this episode, I reckon someone is fking him over, either its that guy with the glasses, Hargreaves, or its Denton, think we've all been suckered into believing shes a fighter, and that the world is against her.The scene with Fleming in the hotel with the £212 bill is something to watch out for too I reckon, they wouldn't have shown it otherwise.
Yup, watched Ep1-5 last night, really impressed with this series - better than the first one I'd say with some nice tie-ins to S1 too. Was only going to watch 2 of them but couldn't help myself.
One thing that struck me when DI Cottan appeared was that phone call he made at the end of S1 (then a DS), suggesting that he was clearly bent.
Also, the scene with Neil Morrissey: Cottan offered the term "Caddy" & Morrissey elaborated but I recall a scene in S1 which took place on a golf course & possible a body rolled up in a carpet. Or was that Columbo?
As for the hotel bill, this may be a link to something in Ep6 that Fleming realises about the liaisons between the DCC & Denton.
What stands out are the numerous subtle hints that could go either way in the plot. I don't think Dryden is at the top of this corrupt tree, just at the end of his own little branch. It may be that Denton found out about his penchant for minors & took it upon herself to administer justice (alongside the baggage from their her own liaison).
It's somewhat interesting that a motoring offence was important to the plot in S1.
And someone mentioned "Between the Lines" - same production company.
One thing that struck me when DI Cottan appeared was that phone call he made at the end of S1 (then a DS), suggesting that he was clearly bent.
Also, the scene with Neil Morrissey: Cottan offered the term "Caddy" & Morrissey elaborated but I recall a scene in S1 which took place on a golf course & possible a body rolled up in a carpet. Or was that Columbo?
As for the hotel bill, this may be a link to something in Ep6 that Fleming realises about the liaisons between the DCC & Denton.
What stands out are the numerous subtle hints that could go either way in the plot. I don't think Dryden is at the top of this corrupt tree, just at the end of his own little branch. It may be that Denton found out about his penchant for minors & took it upon herself to administer justice (alongside the baggage from their her own liaison).
It's somewhat interesting that a motoring offence was important to the plot in S1.
And someone mentioned "Between the Lines" - same production company.
It's good, isn't it. Much of what we have seen puts Denton in the frame, and the fact that she was a survivor of a clinical taking out of the informant made me suspicious. Further, an assumption has been made that he was the target. The attack on the neighbour and her defence during the interview with (a very poor) AC team, showed that she was devious and we've seen what might be her motivation, in fact lots of it.
The thought that keeps crossing my mind is that, given the quality of the writing and plotting so far, would they make it obvious at such an early stage?
Then again, it might be a double bluff.
Normally I'm fairly confident at this stage of such a series but I wouldn't put any money on anyone at the moment.
Who put Denton on shift at that time? In the real world, that sort of carelessness with officers' private lives is the norm, but this is a TV series so I think it is a critical point.
It's a cracking series. I really hope, and expect, that the final episode is not a let down.
It's even more intriguing that when wondering if the Wheeler Dealer pair will make a profit at the end of the programme.
The thought that keeps crossing my mind is that, given the quality of the writing and plotting so far, would they make it obvious at such an early stage?
Then again, it might be a double bluff.
Normally I'm fairly confident at this stage of such a series but I wouldn't put any money on anyone at the moment.
Who put Denton on shift at that time? In the real world, that sort of carelessness with officers' private lives is the norm, but this is a TV series so I think it is a critical point.
It's a cracking series. I really hope, and expect, that the final episode is not a let down.
It's even more intriguing that when wondering if the Wheeler Dealer pair will make a profit at the end of the programme.
Derek Smith said:
It's good, isn't it. Much of what we have seen puts Denton in the frame, and the fact that she was a survivor of a clinical taking out of the informant made me suspicious. Further, an assumption has been made that he was the target. The attack on the neighbour and her defence during the interview with (a very poor) AC team, showed that she was devious and we've seen what might be her motivation, in fact lots of it.
The thought that keeps crossing my mind is that, given the quality of the writing and plotting so far, would they make it obvious at such an early stage?
Then again, it might be a double bluff.
Agreed. I think that this line of Denton's character is to show she's human, clearly stressed. But then even without her perceived baggage, the events up to her becoming a suspect & remanded would be enough to break many (assuming of course she wasn't part of the orchestration).The thought that keeps crossing my mind is that, given the quality of the writing and plotting so far, would they make it obvious at such an early stage?
Then again, it might be a double bluff.
I think there is a central theme running & a point which Arnott significantly made - "maybe some always tell the truth & some always lie, but the rest of us choose our moments" - everybody has skeletons.
The emotions that her character elicits are mixed, firmly in the mind of the writers.
Derek Smith said:
Normally I'm fairly confident at this stage of such a series but I wouldn't put any money on anyone at the moment.
Who put Denton on shift at that time? In the real world, that sort of carelessness with officers' private lives is the norm, but this is a TV series so I think it is a critical point.
I thought that was explained - the Duty DI was called away at the last minute to attend a function with the DCC. Fenton was (I can't recall the official term) on "ghost" duty, providing emergency cover. Unless of course, she actually engineered that. She did lie about who chose the route of the convoy, a point which effectively bought Fleming into the case.Who put Denton on shift at that time? In the real world, that sort of carelessness with officers' private lives is the norm, but this is a TV series so I think it is a critical point.
Derek Smith said:
It's a cracking series. I really hope, and expect, that the final episode is not a let down.
It's even more intriguing that when wondering if the Wheeler Dealer pair will make a profit at the end of the programme.
Yep, it's almost got an air of Red Riding about it (from the corruption perspective). It's even more intriguing that when wondering if the Wheeler Dealer pair will make a profit at the end of the programme.
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Also, the scene with Neil Morrissey: Cottan offered the term "Caddy" & Morrissey elaborated but I recall a scene in S1 which took place on a golf course & possible a body rolled up in a carpet. Or was that Columbo?
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I think that was the last episode of the first series, when they caught Tommy, who in this series was the witness that was killed in episode 1.
Also, the scene with Neil Morrissey: Cottan offered the term "Caddy" & Morrissey elaborated but I recall a scene in S1 which took place on a golf course & possible a body rolled up in a carpet. Or was that Columbo?
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I think that was the last episode of the first series, when they caught Tommy, who in this series was the witness that was killed in episode 1.
Was pretty tense last night, but my swingometer definitely swung in the Denton direction by the end of the show.
The medical notes showing she'd had a termination (assumed to be Dryden's), her getting rid of the cat she loved, in preparation to him moving in and the reaction (although may well be acted) from Dyer when confronted with evidence made it seem like it was engineered by her as some sort of bunny boiler revenge attack.
Smokescreen from the writers perhaps, but the main signal for me was her treatment of the Vice detectives once she had confessed. They kept asking "what did you tell them" like she was in on the "whole" thing, she revealed a bit (significant obviously) but clearly there was more they were concerned about. Then her trying to kill one of them and elicit a statement from him seemed OTT given she could have immobilised him and handed herself in.
I agree Dryden doesn't now seem guilty of much more than playing away, and with young girls (bad enough of course!) and being a nasty bd, now part of the whole witness/conspiracy/corruption/murder thing.
But then of course there is more detail to come out!
Very much lookign forward to next week's conclusion. I can see operational procedures, particularly around interviews is pretty far fetched but I am enjoying this a lot. My wife is finding it a bit grim though - pics of the murdered schoolgirl weren't too nice...
The medical notes showing she'd had a termination (assumed to be Dryden's), her getting rid of the cat she loved, in preparation to him moving in and the reaction (although may well be acted) from Dyer when confronted with evidence made it seem like it was engineered by her as some sort of bunny boiler revenge attack.
Smokescreen from the writers perhaps, but the main signal for me was her treatment of the Vice detectives once she had confessed. They kept asking "what did you tell them" like she was in on the "whole" thing, she revealed a bit (significant obviously) but clearly there was more they were concerned about. Then her trying to kill one of them and elicit a statement from him seemed OTT given she could have immobilised him and handed herself in.
I agree Dryden doesn't now seem guilty of much more than playing away, and with young girls (bad enough of course!) and being a nasty b
d, now part of the whole witness/conspiracy/corruption/murder thing.But then of course there is more detail to come out!
Very much lookign forward to next week's conclusion. I can see operational procedures, particularly around interviews is pretty far fetched but I am enjoying this a lot. My wife is finding it a bit grim though - pics of the murdered schoolgirl weren't too nice...
Edited by prand on Thursday 13th March 11:43
prand said:
The medical notes showing she'd had a termination (assumed to be Dryden's), her getting rid of the cat she loved, in preparation to him moving in and the reaction (although may well be acted) from Dyer when confronted with evidence made it seem like it was engineered by her as some sort of bunny boiler revenge attack.
Perhaps I am reading too much into it, but I thought the 'cat' she got rid of for Dryden was, in fact, the baby. Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff