Line of Duty (BBC Police Drama)

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FiF

44,226 posts

252 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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I suppose for all the faults and plotholes, and the cap, not to forget the ears, Mother of God you could float down the Lagan in those ears, but it has introduced a different dimension to the question of undercover work.

Namely, it's an issue that there is so much money in certain types of criminal activity, drugs being a prime example, that there is sufficient floating about that it can buy people. One of the problems with undercover work, ie infiltrating an OCG, is that cover can be compromised by someone on the take. Here they've introduced a concept directly contrary to an undercover officer infiltrating a criminal enterprise in a long game, but the opposite, a long time criminal who, presumably having kept nose clean, infiltrating the police.

Is police vetting so dodgy these days they would get through? An ambush interview question about getting a bking from a PC over a few under ten year olds just harmlessly pissing about on a building site was not regarded as exceptional, long time back obvs.

over_the_hill

3,189 posts

247 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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Could the fourth be the ACC lady who was quick to dismiss institutional links with Organised Crime.

Could be the PCC chap but he seems to be as thick as mince and I'm surprised he can get dressed on his own.

Gill tarty-pants has scotched the idea that women can't be involved as they can't be Mason's.

ACC lady was also very quick to pull Ch.Sup. frumpy-pants off the investigation telling her it was done. Possibly getting worried that she would start digging deeper and uncover the truth rather than the "truth" she was instructed to uncover (nailing Ted.)

Or alternatively H could be Hilda the tea lady. She moves around freely and unnoticed dishing out the PG and collecting the cups, open access to offices, secrets and documents left on desks. Could very easily have a camera disguised as a pice of Battenberg which gets smuggled in and out in a tea urn with a false bottom.

RemyMartin81D

6,759 posts

206 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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over_the_hill said:
Could the fourth be the ACC lady who was quick to dismiss institutional links with Organised Crime.

Could be the PCC chap but he seems to be as thick as mince and I'm surprised he can get dressed on his own.

Gill tarty-pants has scotched the idea that women can't be involved as they can't be Mason's.

ACC lady was also very quick to pull Ch.Sup. frumpy-pants off the investigation telling her it was done. Possibly getting worried that she would start digging deeper and uncover the truth rather than the "truth" she was instructed to uncover (nailing Ted.)

Or alternatively H could be Hilda the tea lady. She moves around freely and unnoticed dishing out the PG and collecting the cups, open access to offices, secrets and documents left on desks. Could very easily have a camera disguised as a pice of Battenberg which gets smuggled in and out in a tea urn with a false bottom.
PCC role didnt exist when line of duty started. Think that's a dead end. Hope the is more ashes to ashes (great) rather than lost (rubbish)

silobass

1,180 posts

103 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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I assumed the 4th was the new PC, he's been in the OCG since the beginning - he's the kid from S1.

wjb

5,100 posts

132 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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FiF said:
I suppose for all the faults and plotholes, and the cap, not to forget the ears, Mother of God you could float down the Lagan in those ears, but it has introduced a different dimension to the question of undercover work.

Namely, it's an issue that there is so much money in certain types of criminal activity, drugs being a prime example, that there is sufficient floating about that it can buy people. One of the problems with undercover work, ie infiltrating an OCG, is that cover can be compromised by someone on the take. Here they've introduced a concept directly contrary to an undercover officer infiltrating a criminal enterprise in a long game, but the opposite, a long time criminal who, presumably having kept nose clean, infiltrating the police.

Is police vetting so dodgy these days they would get through? An ambush interview question about getting a bking from a PC over a few under ten year olds just harmlessly pissing about on a building site was not regarded as exceptional, long time back obvs.
The ocg will still have plenty of swing with the police, Lisa knew full well that Ryan killed Corbett and could've served him up easily in interview and exposed his police recruitment but didn't.

Ryan wouldn't have a problem getting past vetting if the ocg have someone in working there. Infiltration is nothing new (in real life) unfortunately.

rdjohn

6,225 posts

196 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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LosingGrip said:
ACC Hilton
Dot
Gill
Surely, Hargreaves was in on it, as well?

rdjohn

6,225 posts

196 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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wjb said:
The ocg will still have plenty of swing with the police, Lisa knew full well that Ryan killed Corbett and could've served him up easily in interview and exposed his police recruitment but didn't.

Ryan wouldn't have a problem getting past vetting if the ocg have someone in working there. Infiltration is nothing new (in real life) unfortunately.
Lisa being “let off” is way too fishy. She participated in an armed robbery where 3-policeman were killed. The theory about her being Jacky and Steve’s love child was a far superior plot.

The attempted stabbing at the end was farcical. A stealthy slit throat would have been hard to explain with blood everywhere. Was she only ever intended to be a sacrificial lamb?

These heavily armed police officers everywhere are just a bit daft.

No doubt, by the next series, Ryan will be a sergeant in AC12.

Things have definitely become a bit bizarre since series 1. Whatever happened to the baddy from the Golf Club, who was let off?

Red 4

10,744 posts

188 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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FiF said:
Here they've introduced a concept directly contrary to an undercover officer infiltrating a criminal enterprise in a long game, but the opposite, a long time criminal who, presumably having kept nose clean, infiltrating the police.

Is police vetting so dodgy these days they would get through?
I remember this one from years ago !

A sergeant running an OCG !

£72k in cash, live ammo and 3 submachine guns were found when they searched his house.

Drug dealing, kidnapping, fraud are all mentioned in this article;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-1...

Sounds like a half decent plot line from LoD eek

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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FiF said:
Here they've introduced a concept directly contrary to an undercover officer infiltrating a criminal enterprise in a long game, but the opposite, a long time criminal who, presumably having kept nose clean, infiltrating the police.
Sounds like the story behind The Departed.

Shiv_P

2,759 posts

106 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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rdjohn said:
LosingGrip said:
ACC Hilton
Dot
Gill
Surely, Hargreaves was in on it, as well?
This is what I thought. Hargreaves??

ninja-lewis

4,255 posts

191 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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DrSteveBrule said:
FiF said:
Here they've introduced a concept directly contrary to an undercover officer infiltrating a criminal enterprise in a long game, but the opposite, a long time criminal who, presumably having kept nose clean, infiltrating the police.
Sounds like the story behind The Departed.
Haven't they already done this with Dot being groomed to join the police?

Red 4

10,744 posts

188 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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ninja-lewis said:
Haven't they already done this with Dot being groomed to join the police?
Yup.

Cottan was groomed to join by Tommy Hunter ( who Cottan caddy'd for ).

Pickled

2,051 posts

144 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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rdjohn said:
Things have definitely become a bit bizarre since series 1. Whatever happened to the baddy from the Golf Club, who was let off?
Was put in to witness protection then killed in the armed ambush in series 2, that had the Denton (Keeley Hawes) storyline.

MiniMan64

16,954 posts

191 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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rdjohn said:
LosingGrip said:
ACC Hilton
Dot
Gill
Surely, Hargreaves was in on it, as well?
I think it was established he was being blackmailed into it with a johnny of frozen spunk rather than being truly bent

cuprabob

14,734 posts

215 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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Laurel Green said:
I saw a caption during the snooker yesterday that in 1979 over 20 million people watched an episode of "To the Manor Born". Just goes to demonstrate how viewing habits have changed smile

Laurel Green

30,788 posts

233 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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cuprabob said:
I saw a caption during the snooker yesterday that in 1979 over 20 million people watched an episode of "To the Manor Born". Just goes to demonstrate how viewing habits have changed smile
Yep, umpteen channels and watch whenever has put paid to such high viewing figures - even the Queens Speech has now been gazumped by LoD.

pauloroberto

231 posts

152 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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My wife works in the criminal justice system and reckons 10% of new coppers are members of OCGs! I'm not sure how you would know that though.

entropy

5,455 posts

204 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Felt like giving this series a go after initial heavy skepticism.... bad idea!

Gave up halfway through episode 3 and waited for the finale. Judging by the prologue I didn't miss a lot in between.

Acting in episode 1 was ropey. You could tell it was like the first day back at school with the actors struggling with the acronym heavy dialogue.

LoD really should have ended after series 3 as it tidied some things up nicely and still leaves you guessing at the end/wanting a bit more and there's nothing wrong with those kind of endings IMO.

Investigating Hasting was rather obvious filler series though it was bound to happen sooner or later. It goes to show the problem of being commissioned more series and you can tell Mercurio has no idea where he's going with this. How laughably bad was Dot's muscle spasms suddenly become's Morse code - more likely Mercurio's hand clutching at straws at trying to extend a creditable storyline.



pauloroberto

231 posts

152 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Not a great finale.

As someone has said, the number plates grate. I assume it is because it is filmed in Northern Ireland (which is ironic given the plot).

However, series 1 was filmed in Birmingham and they still have maps of Birmingham on the wall in the interview room.