Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away!: Ch5 9pm

[baldy1926]

I wonder what name she used to become a special. Hopefully she is no longer doing that.

[ewolg]

baldy1926 said:

I wonder what name she used to become a special. Hopefully she is no longer doing that.

Too bloody right - no way you want someone that fraudulent to be a Special.

[Halb]

THat's right! They should join the regulars like the rest of 'em!

[Mojooo]

'peaceful entry' presumably means not using force to open the door because I have seen many entries that clearly were not peaceful in the true sense of the word - i.e when they push their way past someone like they did in todays episode.

[Legacywr]

Sorry, yes it is a repeat

I think ‘peaceful entry’ just means they can’t break in to the property, like they can at a commercial premesis. That’s why they will put a ‘foot in the door’ as they say.

[FiF]

Laurel Green said:

I haven't seen it before - has it been shown on another channel?

The introduction said it was 'all new'.

Well the Mrs hasn't seen it before and she tends to watch this stuff. Suspect it's just a new episode in an already running season, for example the cases shown in the intro I've seen. Wiki seems to suggest it's a new episode, but then wiki.

On the question of forced entry, pushing past someone who has repeatedly closed the door togo away and get information seems pushing the envelope in my eyes, plus of course if the person tries to stop them pushing past then they'll cry their process is being interfered with.

Woman trying to be a special going under different names, FFS, hope she is binned pronto.

[robinessex]

They can't push their way in, or stick a foot in the door.

[227bhp]

It doesn't show immigrants in a good light does it, 80% of them must be foreigners who think they can flout the law.
I do really like seeing people getting their comeuppance, makes for great viewing.

[wjwren]

^ i remember watching it on channel 5 in the daytime one time about a month ago.

[fakenews]

Love this programme. We almost had them visit our property after the previous occupier didn't pay council tax on another property. The idiot council tracked them back to this one, a judgement was made (not sure at what level) against them and bailiffs were instructed to come to this address. I 'accidentally' opened a letter to the previous occupiers and managed to stop it (spending significant time proving they weren't in the property anymore - pisses me off that I had to do this given it was their mistake).

I always wondered what would have happened had the bailiffs turned up...there are far worse eggs than those on this programme. Can you imagine them turning up for someone else's debt (due to a council error), making peaceful entry and taking property? I'm not sure I would have allowed that to happen...

[andymc]

227bhp said:

It doesn't show immigrants in a good light does it, 80% of them must be foreigners who think they can flout the law.
I do really like seeing people getting their comeuppance, makes for great viewing.

try and get 12 months free lodging in Mogadishu

[Saleen836]

fakenews said:

Love this programme. We almost had them visit our property after the previous occupier didn't pay council tax on another property. The idiot council tracked them back to this one, a judgement was made (not sure at what level) against them and bailiffs were instructed to come to this address. I 'accidentally' opened a letter to the previous occupiers and managed to stop it (spending significant time proving they weren't in the property anymore - pisses me off that I had to do this given it was their mistake).

I always wondered what would have happened had the bailiffs turned up...there are far worse eggs than those on this programme. Can you imagine them turning up for someone else's debt (due to a council error), making peaceful entry and taking property? I'm not sure I would have allowed that to happen...

They wont take anything for someone else's debt, you just show them your i.d and a utility bill with your name on it then they wil be on their way.

[nicanary]

andymc said:

227bhp said:

It doesn't show immigrants in a good light does it, 80% of them must be foreigners who think they can flout the law.
I do really like seeing people getting their comeuppance, makes for great viewing.

try and get 12 months free lodging in Mogadishu

........bruv......

[The Mad Monk]

Mojooo said:

'peaceful entry' presumably means not using force to open the door because I have seen many entries that clearly were not peaceful in the true sense of the word - i.e when they push their way past someone like they did in todays episode.

The door was opened - peacefully. They put a foot in the way so that it couldn't be shut.

Why defend the debtors?

[The Mad Monk]

robinessex said:

They can't push their way in, or stick a foot in the door.

Who says?

[Mojooo]

Parliament briefing note

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/docum...

The statutory position is that bailiffs are required to give seven days’
notice before they first visit a debtor’s property. This is called an
enforcement notice.

Once this note has been served, a debtor does not have to let bailiffs
into their home where they knock on the door. Bailiffs are not allowed
to push past an individual to gain entry or jam their foot into a door to
prevent it being shut.

However, bailiffs are permitted to enter an
individual’s home without using force by using any usual means of
entry. This can include entering the property through an unlocked
door, gate, or attached garage.

[GetCarter]

As to whether it's 'new' or repeat.

Some of that ep was new, and some was repeat (re-edited with the swearing left in).

HCEOs (or agents) can make peaceful entry into open doors - barging in is, as has been said, pushing it a bit - but they get paid by results, so it's no surprise!

They can break into commercial properties.

[The Mad Monk]

If

1. People paid their bills on time

2. Settled their debts promptly

3. Attend County Court and abide by judges decision

4. Settled the writ when bailiffs knock on the door

None of this would happen, nobody would need to grumpy and we wouldn't have a television series.

But, most of all number 1.

[nicanary]

The Mad Monk said:

If

1. People paid their bills on time

2. Settled their debts promptly

3. Attend County Court and abide by judges decision

4. Settled the writ when bailiffs knock on the door

None of this would happen, nobody would need to grumpy and we wouldn't have a television series.

But, most of all number 1.

Indeed. The guy who owed about £2k for not paying for a hire car had 2 cars on finance sitting on the drive. If he could afford the monthly paymrnts on those, maybe he could have just paid the outstanding debt instead. Those "add-on" fees for admin costs are horrendous and IMO unjustifiable. I reckon the original debt was about £1k.

[The Mad Monk]

nicanary said:

Indeed. The guy who owed about £2k for not paying for a hire car had 2 cars on finance sitting on the drive. If he could afford the monthly paymrnts on those, maybe he could have just paid the outstanding debt instead. Those "add-on" fees for admin costs are horrendous and IMO unjustifiable. I reckon the original debt was about £1k.

You say "the add-on fees are horrendous".

What system would you suggest for collecting this money?