W1A

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GetCarter

29,402 posts

280 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Not as good as the Olympics, but it was fun and I think we need to appreciate how big it is of the BBC to take the piss out of itself so mercilessly. Show me another public broadcasting service anywhere in the world that would do so with such vicious insight. Lots of you may hate the BBC, but it speaks volumes that it can put itself down so well.

Respect due.

Sid's Dad

576 posts

142 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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GetCarter said:
Not as good as the Olympics, but it was fun and I think we need to appreciate how big it is of the BBC to take the piss out of itself so mercilessly. Show me another public broadcasting service anywhere in the world that would do so with such vicious insight. Lots of you may hate the BBC, but it speaks volumes that it can put itself down so well.

Respect due.
My thoughts exactly. Just another reason why I genuinely love the BBC. I think it's the envy of the world, and those who whine about it should try living in Australia, NZ or worst of all the US. Then they'll know what real biased ste looks like,

FiF

44,138 posts

252 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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Real Life W1A

Daily Telegraph said:
10 ways the BBC is more ridiculous than W1A

1) The house that Beeb built

In the show: All new BBC staff attend a “digital handshake session, run by the technical services choreographer” showing them how to work “the intuitive technology pre-loaded into the building”.

In real-life: On Top Gear two months ago, Jeremy Clarkson told guest Hugh Bonneville, who plays W1A's head of values Ian Fletcher, that he had not yet done the New Broadcasting House Health & Safety course on “How To Operate The Building”. David Dimbleby, meanwhile, told the Telegraph that his BBC ID card and a 50-year career with the Corporation were not enough to gain him entry to its new headquarters without doing the induction course.

2) Wage war

In the show: Fletcher's eye-popping pay packet is leaked to the press and he’s criticised for earning twice as much as the Prime Minister. The BBC persuade him to defuse the situation by cutting his own salary.

In real-life: 87 BBC executives are still paid upwards of £150,000, higher than David Cameron’s £142,500 wage, despite director-general Tony Hall’s pledge to curb excessive salaries. The MD of Finance & Operations, Anne Bulford, earns £395,000 – nearly treble Cameron. Hall himself earns £450,000, over three times as much as the PM. Even the “Director of Workplace & Safety” Paul Greeves, out-earns the PM with £151,000.

3) Skirting the issue
In the show: A female Newsnight presenter wears a short skirt and sparks a media storm. She’s accused of wearing clothes that are “inappropriately watchable”, her legs get their own Twitter account and the show is nicknamed “Kneesnight”.

In real-life: BBC Breakfast’s Susanna Reid caused a kerfuffle last year when she accidentally flashed her underwear twice within three months. They were dubbed “Basic Instinct incidents”.

4) Off the rails

In the show: Head of Values Ian Fletcher (Bonneville) recoils with horror when he has to travel to BBC HQ in Salford to appear on Radio 4’s Woman’s Hour. “Go up where? Manchester?” “Oh, bad luck.”

In real-life: The carriage booked to shoot the scene turned out to be first-class, and the crew were forced to remove all luxury trappings such as curtains, cutlery and plates to make it look like a standard class carriage in order to reassure licence-fee payers. In 2011, however, the BBC justified spending £6,400 per day on luxury travel, partly as a result of the BBC’s £1.5 billion pledge to move half of its programming out of London.

5) Blimey O’Reilly

In the show: In a scandal dubbed “Wingategate”, the BBC gets accused of institutional West Country bias by regional news anchor Sally Wingate, who has failed to land a national gig. As a sop to her, Ian Fletcher suggests getting Sally to present Flog It!, Springwatch or “some kind of Bake-Off”.

In real-life: Irish former Countryfile presenter Miriam O’Reilly won an age discrimination case against the BBC when she was dropped from the rural affairs show when it moved to primetime. Shortly afterwards, she returned to the Corporation as co-host of Crimewatch Roadshow.

6) Picture imperfect

In the show: The “Current Controller of Current Affairs” has to deal with the fallout from a blunder in BBC News 24’s coverage of the Syrian crisis, after a photo of Sting’s wife Trudie Styler is mistakenly used instead of First Lady Asma al-Assad. ”Sting has phoned up Alan Yentob personally and called him an actual prick,” deadpans the voiceover.

In real-life: Cab driver Guy Goma, waiting at Television Centre for a job interview, was hustled into the news studio and introduced as the editor of a technology website, before being asked to give his views on a legal ruling against Apple computers? “Were you surprised at this verdict?” he was grilled. “It’s a big surprise,” he admitted to the oblivious presenter.

7) This is the newzzzzzz

In the show: Jeremy Paxman is accused of nodding off during an interview with Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond but insists he just closed his eyes to concentrate on Salmond’s answers.

In real-life: In 2012, newsreader Simon McCoy was spotted with his head resting on his folded arms, seemingly caught napping at his desk, when BBC Breakfast switched to the rolling news channel. A year later, the same presenter hosted an entire item about “Drunk Tanks” while standing holding a refill pack of A4 instead of his computer tablet. A spokeswoman later said that he had picked up the ream of paper by mistake but had decided to “go with it”.

8) Silly holiday
In the show: The beleaguered Head of Values comes under further fire when the press follow up stories about his salary with claims that he used public money to take Sally Owen (Olivia Colman), his PA at the Olympic Deliverance Commission, on holiday to Italy. They call it a “taxpayer-funded Umbrian love nest”.


In real-life: In 2008, former BBC director-general Mark Thompson claimed £2,237 to fly himself and his family back from Sicily, when he cut short a holiday to deal with the Sachsgate scandal. Four years previously, Thompson chartered a private plane from Maine to Boston at a cost of £1,278, again to interrupt a family holiday and fly back to London to “deal with an urgent staff issue”.

9) Changing rooms

In the show: No-one can find anywhere to sit in a building “aggressively over-designed around the principle of not having a desk”. Meeting rooms are named after famous comedians. Staff are forced to sit on outlandishly tall stools, ball-shaped pouffes or orange see-saws.

In real-life: New Broadcasting House does indeed have an open plan layout and rooms named after comedians – but it doesn’t stop there. Just 18 months after it opened, the BBC is redecorating two floors of the £1bn HQ after creatives complained that the 6th and 7th floors were “not inspiring”. Hence thousands spent on “new branding, images and props” including an “Albert Square hot-desking area” and “Queen Vic meeting room”.

10) Do the logo motion

In the show: Blowhard branding guru Siobhan Sharpe (Jessica Hynes) and her team at PR company Perfect Curve are asked to refresh the BBC logo. They decide to “lose the letters” and “make it look like an app”.

In real-life: In 2008, £380,000 was spent on new BBC Three logos – despite the little-watched channel’s shows attracting ratings so low that the logos cost more than £1 per viewer. The channel’s controller at the time, Danny Cohen (now overall Director of BBC Television), admitted that the new logos worked out at nearly £50 per showing.

GetCarter

29,402 posts

280 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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FiF said:
Real Life W1A

Daily Telegraph said:
10 ways the BBC is more ridiculous than W1A

1) The house that Beeb built

In the show: All new BBC staff attend a “digital handshake session, run by the technical services choreographer” showing them how to work “the intuitive technology pre-loaded into the building”.

In real-life: On Top Gear two months ago, Jeremy Clarkson told guest Hugh Bonneville, who plays W1A's head of values Ian Fletcher, that he had not yet done the New Broadcasting House Health & Safety course on “How To Operate The Building”. David Dimbleby, meanwhile, told the Telegraph that his BBC ID card and a 50-year career with the Corporation were not enough to gain him entry to its new headquarters without doing the induction course.

2) Wage war

In the show: Fletcher's eye-popping pay packet is leaked to the press and he’s criticised for earning twice as much as the Prime Minister. The BBC persuade him to defuse the situation by cutting his own salary.

In real-life: 87 BBC executives are still paid upwards of £150,000, higher than David Cameron’s £142,500 wage, despite director-general Tony Hall’s pledge to curb excessive salaries. The MD of Finance & Operations, Anne Bulford, earns £395,000 – nearly treble Cameron. Hall himself earns £450,000, over three times as much as the PM. Even the “Director of Workplace & Safety” Paul Greeves, out-earns the PM with £151,000.

3) Skirting the issue
In the show: A female Newsnight presenter wears a short skirt and sparks a media storm. She’s accused of wearing clothes that are “inappropriately watchable”, her legs get their own Twitter account and the show is nicknamed “Kneesnight”.

In real-life: BBC Breakfast’s Susanna Reid caused a kerfuffle last year when she accidentally flashed her underwear twice within three months. They were dubbed “Basic Instinct incidents”.

4) Off the rails

In the show: Head of Values Ian Fletcher (Bonneville) recoils with horror when he has to travel to BBC HQ in Salford to appear on Radio 4’s Woman’s Hour. “Go up where? Manchester?” “Oh, bad luck.”

In real-life: The carriage booked to shoot the scene turned out to be first-class, and the crew were forced to remove all luxury trappings such as curtains, cutlery and plates to make it look like a standard class carriage in order to reassure licence-fee payers. In 2011, however, the BBC justified spending £6,400 per day on luxury travel, partly as a result of the BBC’s £1.5 billion pledge to move half of its programming out of London.

5) Blimey O’Reilly

In the show: In a scandal dubbed “Wingategate”, the BBC gets accused of institutional West Country bias by regional news anchor Sally Wingate, who has failed to land a national gig. As a sop to her, Ian Fletcher suggests getting Sally to present Flog It!, Springwatch or “some kind of Bake-Off”.

In real-life: Irish former Countryfile presenter Miriam O’Reilly won an age discrimination case against the BBC when she was dropped from the rural affairs show when it moved to primetime. Shortly afterwards, she returned to the Corporation as co-host of Crimewatch Roadshow.

6) Picture imperfect

In the show: The “Current Controller of Current Affairs” has to deal with the fallout from a blunder in BBC News 24’s coverage of the Syrian crisis, after a photo of Sting’s wife Trudie Styler is mistakenly used instead of First Lady Asma al-Assad. ”Sting has phoned up Alan Yentob personally and called him an actual prick,” deadpans the voiceover.

In real-life: Cab driver Guy Goma, waiting at Television Centre for a job interview, was hustled into the news studio and introduced as the editor of a technology website, before being asked to give his views on a legal ruling against Apple computers? “Were you surprised at this verdict?” he was grilled. “It’s a big surprise,” he admitted to the oblivious presenter.

7) This is the newzzzzzz

In the show: Jeremy Paxman is accused of nodding off during an interview with Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond but insists he just closed his eyes to concentrate on Salmond’s answers.

In real-life: In 2012, newsreader Simon McCoy was spotted with his head resting on his folded arms, seemingly caught napping at his desk, when BBC Breakfast switched to the rolling news channel. A year later, the same presenter hosted an entire item about “Drunk Tanks” while standing holding a refill pack of A4 instead of his computer tablet. A spokeswoman later said that he had picked up the ream of paper by mistake but had decided to “go with it”.

8) Silly holiday
In the show: The beleaguered Head of Values comes under further fire when the press follow up stories about his salary with claims that he used public money to take Sally Owen (Olivia Colman), his PA at the Olympic Deliverance Commission, on holiday to Italy. They call it a “taxpayer-funded Umbrian love nest”.


In real-life: In 2008, former BBC director-general Mark Thompson claimed £2,237 to fly himself and his family back from Sicily, when he cut short a holiday to deal with the Sachsgate scandal. Four years previously, Thompson chartered a private plane from Maine to Boston at a cost of £1,278, again to interrupt a family holiday and fly back to London to “deal with an urgent staff issue”.

9) Changing rooms

In the show: No-one can find anywhere to sit in a building “aggressively over-designed around the principle of not having a desk”. Meeting rooms are named after famous comedians. Staff are forced to sit on outlandishly tall stools, ball-shaped pouffes or orange see-saws.

In real-life: New Broadcasting House does indeed have an open plan layout and rooms named after comedians – but it doesn’t stop there. Just 18 months after it opened, the BBC is redecorating two floors of the £1bn HQ after creatives complained that the 6th and 7th floors were “not inspiring”. Hence thousands spent on “new branding, images and props” including an “Albert Square hot-desking area” and “Queen Vic meeting room”.

10) Do the logo motion

In the show: Blowhard branding guru Siobhan Sharpe (Jessica Hynes) and her team at PR company Perfect Curve are asked to refresh the BBC logo. They decide to “lose the letters” and “make it look like an app”.

In real-life: In 2008, £380,000 was spent on new BBC Three logos – despite the little-watched channel’s shows attracting ratings so low that the logos cost more than £1 per viewer. The channel’s controller at the time, Danny Cohen (now overall Director of BBC Television), admitted that the new logos worked out at nearly £50 per showing.
10 points W1A were taking the piss out of. They did it rather well I thought wink

parabolica

6,724 posts

185 months

Monday 19th January 2015
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I watched all 4 episodes of this last night for the first time (haven't seen 2012 either) and thought it was very funny. It's made by the same guy who made People Like Us back in the 90's which was a real gem of a show with Chris Langham - same writing/delivery style and very satirical.

Loved all the characters in W1A, although I found myself thinking I'd hate all of them in real life but it was funny to watch the vagueness of everyone and all the corporate speak. Need to catch up on 2012 now..

speedking31

3,557 posts

137 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Heads up, new series starts tonight at 21:00.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Yep. Will the intern was on with Chris Evan's this morning.
Was talking about scene where they all get stuck on a revolving door as their passes aren't recognised....
"Course the funniest thing is we experienced exactly that getting in to the building that morning"
:roll eyes:

brickwall

5,250 posts

211 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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I was a massive fan of the first series, and can't wait to catch this on iPlayer.

9.3

1,134 posts

193 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Brilliant new episode, loved it. Peanut monkey was a classic.

RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Cool. Yeah. Like. Cool.
hehe

The worrying thing is, that's exactly how I imagine the BBC is!

jet_noise

5,655 posts

183 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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RicksAlfas said:
Cool. Yeah. Like. Cool.
hehe

The worrying thing is, that's exactly how I imagine the BBC is!
Indeed. It's obviously a documentary rather than scripted reality let alone fiction.
Comedy gold from start to finish.

Drop the Dead Donkey for the 21st century,

regards,
Jet

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Ye gods I wanted to punch that head of security bloke with his stupid "Level 2 lock-downs in zones A to D"
Funny, yet eerily familiar.

coppice

8,624 posts

145 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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It ain't just the BBC ; I am convinced half the cast were people I used to work with. (I was the sensible , cynical one obviously). I did read one patronising review which said that good though it was ,only media Tristrams would get W1A and that it just served to emphasise the BBC's aloofness that it put it on at all. Not so- I am sure lots of people who have worked in big organisations will cringe in recognition; I know I did . Brilliant stuff and an antidote to the infantilisation of BBC TV by the likes of Country File , Secret Britain and Springwatch which all seem targetted at six year olds.

ajprice

27,517 posts

197 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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So how many times did Jeremy C******n say tosser in the BBC hit sitcom Top Gear? hehe

Edit: This was filmed in January, the 'fracas' was in March. They couldn't really drop the joke because it ran through half the episode. I liked what they did about it with Tennant's voice over and the pixelating.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/04/14/jeremy-...

Edited by ajprice on Friday 24th April 23:32

Swervin_Mervin

4,465 posts

239 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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RicksAlfas said:
Cool. Yeah. Like. Cool.
hehe

The worrying thing is, that's exactly how I imagine the BBC is!
As the wife (who works for the Beeb) said yesterday when someone commented on it on FB - "yeah we all laugh our heads off at it...and then cry a little inside". hehe

This first one was utterly brilliant and had me cringing throughout. I've never worked for a large organisation and I totally got it. And no way could I ever work there!

Jobbo

12,973 posts

265 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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I'd simply assumed that the Clarkson bleeping was part of the original script, like bleeping references to Sky. Well done to them adding it.

I still can't understand why I fancy Jessuca Hynes in that role as the PR lady. I've never been a fan of hers before seeing 2012 and she should be massively annoying.

Smollet

10,611 posts

191 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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Very amusing and I suspect it's not far from the truth in certain aspects.

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

164 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Going to watch repeat tonight.

Swervin_Mervin

4,465 posts

239 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Smollet said:
Very amusing and I suspect it's not far from the truth in certain aspects.
You could imagine that many of the characters might actually be based on real people...

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

164 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Will the intern is ridiculously funny....laugh