The Island -Bear Grylls

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TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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24lemons said:
It really is an idiotic program. I'd like to see what people with an interest in survival could achieve rather than a bunch of obnoxious attention seekers.
There are other survival shows, drop survivalists in middle of nowhere. On one show they are even naked.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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So in this lil after show programme, they show them all, and there's a beautiful girl with long brown hair there I don't even recognise.

24lemons

2,660 posts

186 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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TTmonkey said:
There are other survival shows, drop survivalists in middle of nowhere. On one show they are even naked.
Do you know, I've just had a dejavu. I'm sure I posted the same thing last year and somebody told me about the Ed Stafford programmes which are infinitely better

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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24lemons said:
Do you know, I've just had a dejavu. I'm sure I posted the same thing last year and somebody told me about the Ed Stafford programmes which are infinitely better
They still run?

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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24lemons said:
TTmonkey said:
There are other survival shows, drop survivalists in middle of nowhere. On one show they are even naked.
Do you know, I've just had a dejavu. I'm sure I posted the same thing last year and somebody told me about the Ed Stafford programmes which are infinitely better
Try 'naked and afraid' if it's on repeat somewhere.


budgie smuggler

5,397 posts

160 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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nicanary said:
TTmonkey said:
Halb said:
Tough ep this one, with all the fainting.

Hmm....that lil cayman...bit docile...drugged? It didn't exactly spring to life when they tried to noose it...recall the first series? I'm sure there was a real wild one in it.
Total set up.
Agreed. I doubt they even killed it. We saw Aran on its back holding the knife, but I reckon someone else had already inserted it and he was just filmed as if he had done it. They were having a rough time, so I don't crticicise the set-up.
They were probably worried they'd befriend it like the pigs they parachuted into camp a couple of seasons back.

nicanary

9,814 posts

147 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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Halb said:
So in this lil after show programme, they show them all, and there's a beautiful girl with long brown hair there I don't even recognise.
I think you're talking about Kaggy. She has a superb figure - she's the one with the sequined blue bikini. People don't look so hot when they're starving and dehydrated and having the sts every day.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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nicanary said:
Halb said:
So in this lil after show programme, they show them all, and there's a beautiful girl with long brown hair there I don't even recognise.
I think you're talking about Kaggy. She has a superb figure - she's the one with the sequined blue bikini. People don't look so hot when they're starving and dehydrated and having the sts every day.
No, I love Kaggy, and in civilisation she is even more wonderful, on the beach, there was another one, not kaggy, or the doc, or the two blondes.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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That Phil, still won't admit he was wrong...world class cocksocket and nasty piece of work. biggrin

I reckon the other girl, who can be seen sat to the right of the Geordie copper, probably washed her hands of the show and thus, was not featured.

RB Will

9,666 posts

241 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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nicanary said:
Halb said:
So in this lil after show programme, they show them all, and there's a beautiful girl with long brown hair there I don't even recognise.
I think you're talking about Kaggy. She has a superb figure - she's the one with the sequined blue bikini. People don't look so hot when they're starving and dehydrated and having the sts every day.
It was definitely another woman. Me n the wife noticed her in the lineup when Bear came to take them away and we were both sat here saying who the hell is that?

Steve126

301 posts

184 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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TTmonkey said:
Try 'naked and afraid' if it's on repeat somewhere.
Naked and Marooned with Ed Stafford is on Quest at 11pm tonight.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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Steve126 said:
TTmonkey said:
Try 'naked and afraid' if it's on repeat somewhere.
Naked and Marooned with Ed Stafford is on Quest at 11pm tonight.
I met Ed Stafford a couple of months ago when he was out here filming something.

Brigand

2,544 posts

170 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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RB Will said:
nicanary said:
Halb said:
So in this lil after show programme, they show them all, and there's a beautiful girl with long brown hair there I don't even recognise.
I think you're talking about Kaggy. She has a superb figure - she's the one with the sequined blue bikini. People don't look so hot when they're starving and dehydrated and having the sts every day.
It was definitely another woman. Me n the wife noticed her in the lineup when Bear came to take them away and we were both sat here saying who the hell is that?
There was a brunette woman who was a professional camerawoman who matches your description, she didn't have much on-screen time due to being behind the camera most of the time. Was this who you're talking about:



JimmyConwayNW

3,066 posts

126 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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Kaggy was actually quite hot. I would not have minded getting stuck on an island with her.

croyde

23,000 posts

231 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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I too was wondering who the brunette was. Thanks for clearing that up.

When we were kids we were quite adept at knocking up a decent bow and arrows with some sticks and twine. Surprised no one tried that, especially for the turkeys.

I hope it wasn't Jager's kid's or missus that died. It was not long after we see pictures of them and how much he missed them, when he got the bad news and was taken off the island.

Robertj21a

16,479 posts

106 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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I watched all these episodes and still can't believe that most of the people did virtually nothing all the time, but then moaned about not having any food. Why weren't they out most of the day searching for food ? Why were they spending so much time just sunbathing when they had so much they clearly needed to do ? Why do people enrol for the programme without any apparent knowledge of basic survival ?.

From the beginning, there really was only the old chap with any clear idea of what to do. Virtually all the youngsters were treating it as a skive, or holiday.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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The old goat was lucky not to drown

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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Laggy started off with a hot, sexy body. She ended up with a hot sexy body too. Didn't seem to lose her curves......

Odd when everyone was starving.

LittleBigPlanet

1,126 posts

142 months

Tuesday 16th May 2017
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Robertj21a said:
I watched all these episodes and still can't believe that most of the people did virtually nothing all the time, but then moaned about not having any food. Why weren't they out most of the day searching for food ? Why were they spending so much time just sunbathing when they had so much they clearly needed to do ? Why do people enrol for the programme without any apparent knowledge of basic survival ?.

From the beginning, there really was only the old chap with any clear idea of what to do. Virtually all the youngsters were treating it as a skive, or holiday.
Remember that six weeks' worth of footage has been edited into six episodes whilst trying to assemble some sort of storyline. Inevitably, there are continuity issues and footage of them not doing very much - I guess the cameramen/women are more inclined to take their equipment with them on short journeys whilst less so foraging and creating a documentary at the same time.

I agree with your point re basic survival knowledge. However, I assume that they receive basic training to some degree. They still have to have the inclination to act on it though and, despite all the hunger pains and dehydration, the tenacity to do so. What surprised me more this year was the lack of initiative - did we ever see anyone making a net (like last year - which was 'found' by the way)? Why did it take the safety team intervening to make a proper shelter and to elevated beds? These seem basic principles. That being said, it makes better telly for us to see people bumble their way through it I guess. Or, at least, that's what the production company think we'd like to see. Personally, I'd like to see them all flourish and make a proper go of it, not be on the edge of starvation for six weeks.

Re your last point (I think you're referring to Frank), he seemed to take the initiative at the beginning but then fade into the background. We didn't really hear from him for 2-3 episodes. Could have been the editing though. On that point, my wife and I commented (like a few posters here) on some of the people that we've heard next to nothing (and sometimes nothing) from e.g. the black guy with the long dark hair and the brunette camerawomen - where have they been?!

I have enjoyed the series though, probably the weakest so far though.

briangriffin

1,589 posts

169 months

Tuesday 16th May 2017
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LittleBigPlanet said:
Remember that six weeks' worth of footage has been edited into six episodes whilst trying to assemble some sort of storyline. Inevitably, there are continuity issues and footage of them not doing very much - I guess the cameramen/women are more inclined to take their equipment with them on short journeys whilst less so foraging and creating a documentary at the same time.

I agree with your point re basic survival knowledge. However, I assume that they receive basic training to some degree. They still have to have the inclination to act on it though and, despite all the hunger pains and dehydration, the tenacity to do so. What surprised me more this year was the lack of initiative - did we ever see anyone making a net (like last year - which was 'found' by the way)? Why did it take the safety team intervening to make a proper shelter and to elevated beds? These seem basic principles. That being said, it makes better telly for us to see people bumble their way through it I guess. Or, at least, that's what the production company think we'd like to see. Personally, I'd like to see them all flourish and make a proper go of it, not be on the edge of starvation for six weeks.

Re your last point (I think you're referring to Frank), he seemed to take the initiative at the beginning but then fade into the background. We didn't really hear from him for 2-3 episodes. Could have been the editing though. On that point, my wife and I commented (like a few posters here) on some of the people that we've heard next to nothing (and sometimes nothing) from e.g. the black guy with the long dark hair and the brunette camerawomen - where have they been?!

I have enjoyed the series though, probably the weakest so far though.
Yeah I'd agree the weakest one so far, what would you prefer the set up be for next series?

I think I'd like to see perhaps white collar professionals/ typical city folk who haven't ever had to get their hands dirty on one island vs blue collar workers/ tradesmen with hands on skills.

Brains vs brawn perhaps In a simplified sense