Better Call Saul - Prequel to Breaking Bad

Better Call Saul - Prequel to Breaking Bad

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Lurking Lawyer

4,534 posts

225 months

Wednesday 5th September 2018
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youngsyr said:
I love the way they casually dismissed the first architect/builder too. So subtle, but so effective.
I must have missed that bit - SWMBO kept talking to me - why and how did that happen? I did wonder why the German guy was brought in.....

Just goes to show how much this is a programme that you can't watch while doing something else rolleyes

DocJock

8,357 posts

240 months

Wednesday 5th September 2018
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I think it was because he mentioned a previous project he'd worked on.

No way Mike (or Gus) would trust him to keep his mouth shut.

ashleyman

6,987 posts

99 months

Wednesday 5th September 2018
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Yeah. He mentioned previous projects, used computers & lasers and seemed a bit cocky about the process. Almost like he didn't really understand and was cool with everything.

They didn’t even tell him he didn’t get it. Just transported back to the car with a plane ticket in his pocket.

The last guy was great, old school measuring, spoke about the issues, couldn't really grasp what they were trying to do, did measurements and calculations in his head. Plus he got a face meeting with Fring. I liked how he said not impossible, just dangerous or something like that.

Edited by ashleyman on Wednesday 5th September 16:13

Lurking Lawyer

4,534 posts

225 months

Wednesday 5th September 2018
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Cheers gents! thumbup

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

136 months

Wednesday 5th September 2018
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DocJock said:
I think it was because he mentioned a previous project he'd worked on.

No way Mike (or Gus) would trust him to keep his mouth shut.
And maybe also because he did a 2 minute quote and just said it would be easy, while the other guy went into detail of what was involved and how difficult it would be.

Nimby

4,592 posts

150 months

Wednesday 5th September 2018
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Fascinating Podcast technical discussion about the teaser - it's the original set which had been in storage, and was shot on film to recreate the Breaking Bad look then scanned at 4k frame-by-frame.

Mykap

634 posts

188 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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Was that Jesse's car outside the Doghouse diner?

Gary29

4,160 posts

99 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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Mykap said:
Was that Jesse's car outside the Doghouse diner?
Yes

Durzel

12,272 posts

168 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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Gary29 said:
Yes
Close but no cigarsmile

Similar looking, but not the same.

MadmanO/T People

899 posts

205 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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Durzel said:
Gary29 said:
Yes
Close but no cigarsmile

Similar looking, but not the same.
The car in front of the Doghouse is a Buick Regal. It was built on the same G-Body platform as Jesse's Chevrolet Monte Carlo, hence the similar looks. The 1980s was the heyday of GM's badge engineering, which produced a plethora of look-alike cars.

Speaking of cars, if BCS is supposed to take place in 2002-03 or thereabouts, they really need to pay closer attention to some of the cars on camera. In the scene where the building contractor is looking for his rental car, he walks past a Mk I Honda Fit (AKA Jazz) which wasn't introduced in the United States until April of 2006 as a 2007 model.

Edited by MadmanO/T People on Friday 7th September 19:27

D-Angle

4,467 posts

242 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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Interesting article on why the show is so appealing. Basically, it's not Mad Men but we like it for the same reasons:

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/read-this/b...

P-Jay

10,570 posts

191 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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Jonesy23 said:
DocJock said:
I think it was because he mentioned a previous project he'd worked on.

No way Mike (or Gus) would trust him to keep his mouth shut.
And maybe also because he did a 2 minute quote and just said it would be easy, while the other guy went into detail of what was involved and how difficult it would be.
The way I read it was that the first guy was cocky and impatient. His method was probably dangerous and certainly over-confident time wise. He also didn't take too much care in how he planned, he had the fancy laser measuring device, but instead of taking a measurement from wall to wall, he stood in the middle, shot it both ways and added the two together. That would have been way too imprecise for someone like Mike to be comfortable with, he only real question to Mike was whether they would pay his price.

Second guy was the complete opposite, he was cautious, in the way he took is measurements the way he asked the right questions about logistics and probably more importantly his plan to actually build the thing was cautious. Consider the way Mike takes his 'Front' Job so seriously, even when building a covert underground drug bunker, Mike would want it built to the same standard as a new School also Fring and Mike can both be quite compassionate towards 'non players' from both a moral and practical point of view it makes sense to avoid workplace injuries or even deaths if you want to keep it covert.

It probably didn't hurt his cause that he was a paper and pen type of guy, Mike is older and probably a bit of a technophobe and in the early 2000s a laptop was much more of a rarity than it is now and even then probably less secure.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

192 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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P-Jay said:
Jonesy23 said:
DocJock said:
I think it was because he mentioned a previous project he'd worked on.

No way Mike (or Gus) would trust him to keep his mouth shut.
And maybe also because he did a 2 minute quote and just said it would be easy, while the other guy went into detail of what was involved and how difficult it would be.
The way I read it was that the first guy was cocky and impatient. His method was probably dangerous and certainly over-confident time wise. He also didn't take too much care in how he planned, he had the fancy laser measuring device, but instead of taking a measurement from wall to wall, he stood in the middle, shot it both ways and added the two together. That would have been way too imprecise for someone like Mike to be comfortable with, he only real question to Mike was whether they would pay his price.

Second guy was the complete opposite, he was cautious, in the way he took is measurements the way he asked the right questions about logistics and probably more importantly his plan to actually build the thing was cautious. Consider the way Mike takes his 'Front' Job so seriously, even when building a covert underground drug bunker, Mike would want it built to the same standard as a new School also Fring and Mike can both be quite compassionate towards 'non players' from both a moral and practical point of view it makes sense to avoid workplace injuries or even deaths if you want to keep it covert.

It probably didn't hurt his cause that he was a paper and pen type of guy, Mike is older and probably a bit of a technophobe and in the early 2000s a laptop was much more of a rarity than it is now and even then probably less secure.
You missed a couple of obvious points too - the cocky first guy bragged and gave details about a former job, showing he can't be trusted to keep quiet - major flaw to Mike and Gus.

And to my mind, the point about the computer was that it's less secure than a notepad (because of the internet connection).

Seemed to me that Mike didn't believe him about not needing to blast, either.

MadmanO/T People

899 posts

205 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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Great new episode!

For those who are wondering, the flashback to Jimmy and Kim's mailroom days can be positively dated to between 17 February and 29 March 1993, thanks to the office Academy Awards pool where the film Howard's End and Al Pacino's performance in A Scent of a Woman were both mentioned. The nominees for the 65th Academy Awards were announced on 17 February 1993 and the winners were awarded on 29 March 1993.

For perspective, this is about a decade before the "current" events in Better Call Saul take place. Naturally, Jimmy doesn't look any younger, so some suspension of disbelief is required!

stuartmmcfc

8,664 posts

192 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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I suspect the cocky German diggers career isn’t going to end well.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

192 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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stuartmmcfc said:
I suspect the cocky German diggers career isn’t going to end well.
There was talk on Reddit of linking the cocky German engineer to Mike's statement in Breaking Bad that Lydia (Gus' female assistant) deserves to die more than any man he knew - at some point she has to do something terrible that Mike becomes aware of or is involved in...

e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

173 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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youngsyr said:
stuartmmcfc said:
I suspect the cocky German diggers career isn’t going to end well.
There was talk on Reddit of linking the cocky German engineer to Mike's statement in Breaking Bad that Lydia (Gus' female assistant) deserves to die more than any man he knew - at some point she has to do something terrible that Mike becomes aware of or is involved in...
I was surprised Mike didn't say anything to him. I guess it's not a position you can easily walk away from. If at all.

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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e30m3Mark said:
I was surprised Mike didn't say anything to him. I guess it's not a position you can easily walk away from. If at all.
No half measures remember wink

When he hits him, he will kill him hehe

ashleyman

6,987 posts

99 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Great episode.

I think Kai might end up dead.

D-Angle

4,467 posts

242 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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It's unwise to behave like that when you are locked up with a group of men who are secretly digging a large hole. biggrin

Also, 'don't mess with the phone guy' - loved that bit.