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Great stuff...
...but have to disagree with his opinion of the clio.
I had a Trophy but it wasn't particularly quick, the brakes awful, the ride terrible and the running costs way to high for a hothatch. Traded it for a megane R26, which was everything the clio wasn't, completely underrated car and would run rings around a trophy.
...but have to disagree with his opinion of the clio.
I had a Trophy but it wasn't particularly quick, the brakes awful, the ride terrible and the running costs way to high for a hothatch. Traded it for a megane R26, which was everything the clio wasn't, completely underrated car and would run rings around a trophy.
I always found S1s to be a right PITA to keep the brake and clutch working properly. With the linkages in the front wheel well and the master cylinders slung under the floor of the cab, all the (off)road muck gets thrown into those parts regularly. I had one in once for service where the brake pedal had seized to it's pivot and didn't really do much at all (luckily, brakes are kinda optional on them ;-)
(later S2/3/defenders sensibly moved the pedals up to overhung types that put the mech parts high up on the bulkhead in the engine bay, and a lot more out of the way)
(later S2/3/defenders sensibly moved the pedals up to overhung types that put the mech parts high up on the bulkhead in the engine bay, and a lot more out of the way)
El Guapo said:
I was disappointed when the Range Rover made it up the hill!
I think it would have been a different story on wet grass, though.
Modern JLR kit is still phenominal offroad. Few non extreme situations they can't handle and probably better than a Landy or Defender even. I think it would have been a different story on wet grass, though.
The Classic was superior offroad to the Landy (like their owners, they had superior articulation ) but the Landy has and always will be the JLR product that can be smashed up and fixed out in the middle of nowhere and has better storage for kit.
Plus, the only cow that gets slung in the back of a Rangie these days is a Russian's first wife.
DonkeyApple said:
Modern JLR kit is still phenominal offroad. Few non extreme situations they can't handle and probably better than a Landy or Defender even
Terrain Response traction control is very impressive, but in my experience there's a big difference in ability with slightly more aggressive tyres (in the usual UK wet grass/muddy field scenarios). Even the cleverest electronics can only do so much with the sort of tyres most of them come with.DonkeyApple said:
Very enjoyable. I have a feeling that I saw this being filmed while driving near Brize Norton.
monthefish said:
Funnily enough, at the junction he drives through in the video, on streetview there is a nice desert storm Land Rover being transported.
NomduJour said:
DonkeyApple said:
Modern JLR kit is still phenominal offroad. Few non extreme situations they can't handle and probably better than a Landy or Defender even
Terrain Response traction control is very impressive, but in my experience there's a big difference in ability with slightly more aggressive tyres (in the usual UK wet grass/muddy field scenarios). Even the cleverest electronics can only do so much with the sort of tyres most of them come with.I think where the Landy catagorically scores is deep mud as wide tyres can't cut through to get the grip needed. Hence Landy's could leave Goodwood a few years ago and the Rangies got stuck. Same with Silverstone a few years before.
Love it! He covers all the fascinating geeky bits with being boring.
I think it has put me off ever buying a Series 1 though, 50mph flat out takes some commitment. There was an interesting article in Octane about a guy who supercharged his early Land Rover (SII I think) to heady heights of 100bhp. It now does 70 mph!!
I think it has put me off ever buying a Series 1 though, 50mph flat out takes some commitment. There was an interesting article in Octane about a guy who supercharged his early Land Rover (SII I think) to heady heights of 100bhp. It now does 70 mph!!
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