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The Don of Croy

6,003 posts

160 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Didn't Jimmy Nesbitt go to Ken Stott's office last week - in the present day - looking for him?

But having offed him (apparently) six years ago, and evidently no body has turned up either, he goes through this charade of asking about him. After six years.

More loose ends than C19 Lancashire cotton mill.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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The Don of Croy said:
Didn't Jimmy Nesbitt go to Ken Stott's office last week - in the present day - looking for him?

But having offed him (apparently) six years ago, and evidently no body has turned up either, he goes through this charade of asking about him. After six years.

More loose ends than C19 Lancashire cotton mill.
Bourg went to his office last week.

benjj

6,787 posts

164 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Just been reading up on theories online. Some of mine are there, makes me feel less mental wink

Some interesting points:

The hotel owner and the mayor are brothers. Perhaps some weird paedoness going on actually at the hotel.

The boat in the scene was called 'Blue Rose', which was also the name of the care home that the old Doris was in.

Apparently Olly clearly wasn't wearing the yellow scarf when he was taken. People are getting pissed off at this as it's either a glaring continuity error or there really is something in it.

Jerry Can

4,468 posts

224 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Right for those struggling to follow the plot. The sequence involving the boat on the indian ocean (Garrett and wife) is a figment of her mind as she has gone mad with keeping the secret of garret murdering their daughter. It's a bit like a
Scene from "a beautiful mind"

The French detective does seem to forget which leg has a limp
The mystery bloke they are trying to find, the one that Nesbitt referred to as being like a ghost is the bloke that slashed the druggie turned teacher.

Bourg is no relation to Garrett, Garrett controlled him through threats to family


Butter Face

30,371 posts

161 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Jerry Can said:
Right for those struggling to follow the plot. The sequence involving the boat on the indian ocean (Garrett and wife) is a figment of her mind as she has gone mad with keeping the secret of garret murdering their daughter. It's a bit like a
Scene from "a beautiful mind"

The French detective does seem to forget which leg has a limp
The mystery bloke they are trying to find, the one that Nesbitt referred to as being like a ghost is the bloke that slashed the druggie turned teacher.

Bourg is no relation to Garrett, Garrett controlled him through threats to family
Yeah this. It's not that hard to follow is it? Its all starting to come together.

Watching Tony kill Garrett was great, the horrible bd deserved it.

Can't wait to see what happens in the last 2 episodes.

sumo69

2,164 posts

221 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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If Tony killed Paedo Garrett in the past (6 years ago), why did he go to his office in the present? Why did the chap in charge tell him he had sold up and retired 4 years ago (as in 2 years after Tony had killed him?)

My 2p on the scriptwriting confusion!

One thought - has Garrett got an identical twin brother??

David

MiniMan64

16,952 posts

191 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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sumo69 said:
If Tony killed Paedo Garrett in the past (6 years ago), why did he go to his office in the present? Why did the chap in charge tell him he had sold up and retired 4 years ago (as in 2 years after Tony had killed him?)

My 2p on the scriptwriting confusion!

One thought - has Garrett got an identical twin brother??

David
Tony didn't go to the office.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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MiniMan64 said:
sumo69 said:
If Tony killed Paedo Garrett in the past (6 years ago), why did he go to his office in the present? Why did the chap in charge tell him he had sold up and retired 4 years ago (as in 2 years after Tony had killed him?)

My 2p on the scriptwriting confusion!

One thought - has Garrett got an identical twin brother??

David
Tony didn't go to the office.
Yup, it was Bourg who then went to see Garrett's wife to keep his promise to himself to tell everyone the truth about Garrett

Butter Face

30,371 posts

161 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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As above, he didn't.


Pay attention class! hehe

Butter Face

30,371 posts

161 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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sumo69 said:
If Tony killed Paedo Garrett in the past (6 years ago), why did he go to his office in the present? Why did the chap in charge tell him he had sold up and retired 4 years ago (as in 2 years after Tony had killed him?)

My 2p on the scriptwriting confusion!

One thought - has Garrett got an identical twin brother??

David
the guy in the office said he disappeared 6 years ago, he just been declared legally dead (and as said, it was French Paedo, not Nesbitt)

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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PurpleTurtle

7,041 posts

145 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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I'm going to stick my neck out and suggest that the juge d'instruction investigating judge bloke is in some way involved with a paedo ring who abducted Oliver, as was Ian Garrett.

Advance teaser clip of next week's episode - doesn't give anything away though, so safe to watch without spoiling anything
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02ctmlj

Legend83

9,997 posts

223 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Butter Face said:
Watching Tony kill Garrett was great, the horrible bd deserved it.
It was a brilliant scene. When he turned to Tony and said "he was a beautiful boy though, eh?" even I wanted to kill him!

foreright

1,041 posts

243 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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PurpleTurtle said:
I'm going to stick my neck out and suggest that the juge d'instruction investigating judge bloke is in some way involved with a paedo ring who abducted Oliver, as was Ian Garrett.
Yep this is what the OH and I think - the judge guy is also the brother of the hotel owner. I watched the first episode again last night and when Tony/Olly are the swimming pool before the abduction, there is a guy there with grey hair who looks quite a bit like one of the mechanics from right at the beginning (the older one).

We think the whole town, give or take, is involved or at least is turning a blind eye.

One more thing - they've made it a point quite a few times to have James mistaken for Olly. A few different characters have done this... Could he have been the actual target and they took the wrong boy? That might divert the story back onto Mark and something he's done / his job. Given he's quite a big name, it surprises me that he's has so little involvement so far wink

Mojooo

12,768 posts

181 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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The only problem I have is that it appears the whole Garrett thing is irrelevant to the story of what happened to the kid as is all the stuff with Bourg - the actual story I guess will play out in the final 3 episodes when they fidn this Zig guy.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

238 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Mojooo said:
The only problem I have is that it appears the whole Garrett thing is irrelevant to the story of what happened to the kid as is all the stuff with Bourg - the actual story I guess will play out in the final 3 episodes when they fidn this Zig guy.
Maybe Ian Garretts brother comes into it, Garrett mentioned that his abusive Dad/uncle used to abuse both him and his brother just before Tony did him in, If reference to a brother wasn't relevant to the story, why mention him?

speedking31

3,562 posts

137 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Killing Garrett may not have been the most sensible move if he wants to find his son!

aidb

74 posts

200 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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speedking31 said:
Killing Garrett may not have been the most sensible move if he wants to find his son!
Indeed. It looked like he baited him into attacking him. Also, Garret used the past tense in his 'lovely boy' remark.

HTP99

22,628 posts

141 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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It wasn't his son in the video though?