Westworld (NO SPOILERS)

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Jonesy23

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136 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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See if you can spot the cameraman in the shot when he's wandering through the middle of town during his search.




(Apparently it's a modified bit of spare footage from a spare angle with him digitally inserted, which is why if you look to the left you'll see Maeve walk into shot followed by a camera operator.)

Lucas Ayde

3,557 posts

168 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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ashleyman said:
Brilliant episode. In case anyone missed it, Ake was talking to Maeve the whole time. He was explaining his story to her.
At the time, I thought that Maeve had only hooked into the network at the very end but after seeing a review on Youtube it was pointed out that when he was speaking in Lakota, he was talking to Maeve (who had installed the optional language pack) and when he spoke in English, it was to her 'daughter'.

Brilliant, an absolutely great episode. Unusual in that it seems to have pretty much followed the story of a character in a linear timeline rather than jumping between past, present and future constantly, and much harder hitting for it.

Also, disproves the theory that Ford was in charge of the Ghost Nation but perfectly explains their behaviour. Strange that Ford would allow them to go off on their own storyline as he would have had to be putting an enormous amount of planning into setting up his own and wouldn't want to risk it being derailed by wild cards.


Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Scabutz said:
Bloody sky though. When I started watching it it said 97 mins remaining. I thought woo-hoo extended episode but it had recorded Billions on the end of it.
Haha, same!!! I started thinking it was the last episode then. Then when it felt finished I checked and thought, strange feels like the end of an ep, then it ended. biggrin

gregs656

10,879 posts

181 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Quite liked the episode but adds to my general sense of frustration at the inconsistency in the story telling.

trooperiziz

9,456 posts

252 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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I would have been much happier with it if the rest of the season had been up to scratch and not just randomly meandering along, it would have been a welcome change of pace.
However, for me it was just another episode of not much happening with a character I had built up no empathy with or cared about, and yet another slow paced episode.

To be clear, I'm not after frantic explosion tests, I just want it to be as engaging as season 1...

Sparky137

869 posts

181 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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trooperiziz said:
To be clear, I'm not after frantic explosion tests, I just want it to be as engaging as season 1...
Exactly this, not just a random mishmash of disjointed timelines and complete throw away episodes.

Lucas Ayde

3,557 posts

168 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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The 'different time periods' stuff was novel at first (especially when it wasn't obvious they were doing it with William/ Man in Black stories) but it is now starting to get a bit tiring as they are leaning too heavily on it to generate mystery.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Watching Westword and they mentioned MiB as a host. It tied up to something Preston said in one of his vids when he examined how many times MiB was at Westworld, it's a lot, he must be there 4/5 times a year...just about the time to rejigg his circuitry if it's going all Berrrnard?
It would helped explain his durability. Of course my theory of dura--organs™ does that too

Scabutz

7,605 posts

80 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Lucas Ayde said:
The 'different time periods' stuff was novel at first (especially when it wasn't obvious they were doing it with William/ Man in Black stories) but it is now starting to get a bit tiring as they are leaning too heavily on it to generate mystery.
I'm enjoying S2 but I do agree with you too. In S1 I didn't see that or any of the other twists coming. I just thought it's a programme about killer robots.

But in S2 I'm constantly trying to work out what's going on and what the twist is. They are trying to add to many things. In S1 it's park, the history, the reveries, oh they are going wrong, is it Ford's st code.

Anyway the door / weapon etc it seems too obvious now what it is. There has to be a twist there?

Watchman

6,391 posts

245 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Funny how we all like different things. For me, that was one of, if not THE best episode to date.

pidsy

7,989 posts

157 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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I enjoyed it but I still have no idea what’s going on. The trailer for next week doesn’t look terribly exciting.


Scabutz

7,605 posts

80 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Watchman said:
Funny how we all like different things. For me, that was one of, if not THE best episode to date.
Yeah. That's why it's such good telly though. Different people see the brilliance in different ways.

I thought last weeks was the seminal episode. All good series have their Landmark episodes. West Wing had Two Cathedrals, Sopranos had Pine Barrens, True Detective S1 had episode 5. And I thought last weeks Westworld was it's.

Watchman

6,391 posts

245 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Scabutz said:
Watchman said:
Funny how we all like different things. For me, that was one of, if not THE best episode to date.
Yeah. That's why it's such good telly though. Different people see the brilliance in different ways.

I thought last weeks was the seminal episode. All good series have their Landmark episodes. West Wing had Two Cathedrals, Sopranos had Pine Barrens, True Detective S1 had episode 5. And I thought last weeks Westworld was it's.
I really love modern westerns, especially those where there's a lot of space in the story... where they explore the characters slowly, and usually with some pathos. I suppose it's just my way of imagining a slower pace of life. I don't think I'd want to live "then" though - there was too much disease and "young death", however Westworld (as a concept before Dolores' rebellion) marries the lifestyle with the security of modern life expectancy.

This week's focus on Ake played to my enjoyment of Dances With Wolves, and the character played by Chief Dan George in The Outlaw Josey Wales.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Watchman said:
I really love modern westerns, especially those where there's a lot of space in the story... where they explore the characters slowly, and usually with some pathos. I suppose it's just my way of imagining a slower pace of life. I don't think I'd want to live "then" though - there was too much disease and "young death", however Westworld (as a concept before Dolores' rebellion) marries the lifestyle with the security of modern life expectancy.

This week's focus on Ake played to my enjoyment of Dances With Wolves, and the character played by Chief Dan George in The Outlaw Josey Wales.
I didn't surrender neither. But they took my horse and made him surrender. They have him pulling a wagon up in Kansas I bet.

Watchman

6,391 posts

245 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Halb said:
I didn't surrender neither. But they took my horse and made him surrender. They have him pulling a wagon up in Kansas I bet.
He would be one of my fantasy dinner guests... the actor or the character - they were probably one and the same. biggrin

skinny

5,269 posts

235 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Am a week behind so still not seen this week's episode, just finished last week's (ep 7)

No idea what's going on anymore.

I feel like it would be more enjoyable if they just played it in order or even just made it clear when things were happening. It's like they are just trying to confuse people rather than made a decent Tele show.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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damn that was good...I'm a lil lost...might have to stick a knife in me own arm later on

Scabutz

7,605 posts

80 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Halb said:
damn that was good...I'm a lil lost...might have to stick a knife in me own arm later on
So is MIB a host and he is cutting into his port? Or is this misdirection again?

Hopkins gives me a semi when he talks and I'm a heterosexual man.

This is the best TV ever. I've never been so excited to see what happens next. Is next week the last in the series? Think I'll spend the week re-watching s2.


Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Scabutz said:
So is MIB a host and he is cutting into his port? Or is this misdirection again?

Hopkins gives me a semi when he talks and I'm a heterosexual man.

This is the best TV ever. I've never been so excited to see what happens next. Is next week the last in the series? Think I'll spend the week re-watching s2.
I think William had gotten so lost in his chosen world/game he would believe Ford was behind everything. I think he's just losing his mind. Talk about Shakespearean with Delores as well.

yeah the same with Hopkins...currently UK's best actor.

Sheets Tabuer

18,960 posts

215 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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This is turning in to self indulgent crap