Westworld (NO SPOILERS)

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FourWheelDrift

88,560 posts

285 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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TEKNOPUG said:
I'm still struggling with the concept that no one at Delos has suggested it odd that Ford's current (upto the end of S1) assistant is exactly the same guy he partnered with 30 years ago to build the park/hosts in the first place....no records, no photos, nothing....at least no one who seems to be involved in the day to day running of the place.
Depends how small it was back then and how few people there were involved. It was before the park opened and really it could have just been that single town with the 2 streets and the church that we have seen along with the original labs under the church. There was the memory of seeing the all the hosts practising to dance (not that many) and the memory we saw of Delores and Teddy killing them all off before shooting Arnold and themselves. Would be easy to remove, sack, or kill off anyone from back then if you are a power obsessed lunatic like Ford. If it was a private project no one could even have known there was an Arnold there, he could have just been this bloke with the strangely aloof hot blonde girlfriend he brought to his new house on the mainland a couple of times and decided to pack up and move with her somewhere unknown one day, or so Ford said to his wife smile

Scabutz

7,647 posts

81 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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Jonesy23 said:
I thought it meant something along the lines of 'how could you be a host, you were going home out of the park'?

As has been mentioned I thought it was along the lines of rig work so time on/time off, and the assumption that if he was a host he couldn't have been going out of the park.

Though unless she saw him get on the transport and go he might have just spent his holidays in a cupboard somewhere.
That's exactly as I took it. She was shocked to find he was host and knew hosts never left the park so wonder WTF he disappeared off to.

Either as someone said above, to a cupboard. Or presumably that's when he is off on his assignments from Ford such as killing the drones and lab people and printing the globe thingy

gregs656

10,906 posts

182 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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TEKNOPUG said:
I'm still struggling with the concept that no one at Delos has suggested it odd that Ford's current (upto the end of S1) assistant is exactly the same guy he partnered with 30 years ago to build the park/hosts in the first place....no records, no photos, nothing....at least no one who seems to be involved in the day to day running of the place.
Yes agreed. Quite odd.

rasto

2,190 posts

238 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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gregs656 said:
TEKNOPUG said:
I'm still struggling with the concept that no one at Delos has suggested it odd that Ford's current (upto the end of S1) assistant is exactly the same guy he partnered with 30 years ago to build the park/hosts in the first place....no records, no photos, nothing....at least no one who seems to be involved in the day to day running of the place.
Yes agreed. Quite odd.
"Doesn't look like anything to me"

Oakey

27,594 posts

217 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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Was addressed in S1 when Logan is telling William about investing, says one of the partners killed himself and no one can even find a photo of the guy

marksx

5,052 posts

191 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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Can we be certain that Bernard is a copy of Arnold? Trying to think, has there been a shot in either series of a human talking to Arnold, with Arnold in front of the camera? Have all shots been from a host's perspective?

Bloody show has me questioning everything now!

Oakey

27,594 posts

217 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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We saw Ford interact with Arnold in one of the flashbacks at the start of season 2

marksx

5,052 posts

191 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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Away on holiday so time for me to avoid this thread until Friday. Must. Avoid. Temptation!


ashleyman

6,987 posts

100 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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Didn't rate this week. Few good scenes but most of it was annoying and I couldn't follow it.

Flip Martian

19,710 posts

191 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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Followed this week's fine - but it was more of a "bring new stuff in slowly and not much really happening" episodes for me. Although I enjoyed it, mostly. Hopefully back to Elsie and Bernard next week.

Tankrizzo

7,280 posts

194 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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It's not a spoiler, but there's an epic cover of Wu Tang's C.R.E.A.M in tonight's episode cloud9

westtra

1,534 posts

202 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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There have been a few good covers in this season so far.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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tune out in Delores story

Maeve's, I weave in and out of, but her new wifi powers are pretty cool

rasto

2,190 posts

238 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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Still as gripping as ever for me, I thought that was a great episode. Loved the Japanese story with all the parallels.

FourWheelDrift

88,560 posts

285 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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There were only 3 things in tonight's episode, firstly Teddy being reprogrammed into a Tedinator. Maeve using the local host network (like Bernard did to find Abernathy) to give commands to those that haven't changed their programming. The big one (I think) was at the beginning when the Delos tech was checking the memories of the hosts they had recovered from the lake. He said they had little memory, could this suggest that they are all copies given a fast flashed memory and the real ones have already escaped into the outside world? Perhaps Bernard number 2 had been coerced into making them they "killing them" and his memory wiped from all the important bits, or this Bernard is just a copy left to cover their tracks and Bernard number 1 has left with the others.

Other than that just a filler episode to move people on. Japanese sub-story was boring other than showing how little imagination or conversely how much control Ford had over what happens in all the parks.

Flip Martian

19,710 posts

191 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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I assumed Dolores was wiping Teddy's mind (hence the wiped brains found in the later timeline), not reprogramming him. Seems more sensible to turn him into a killing machine though, as that would be more useful...

The similar characters/plots in Shogun World were well done I thought. But nothing REALLY happened.

Watchman

6,391 posts

246 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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I read a theory that we see two Bernards - the one 2 weeks in the future doesn't have the scar from when he shot himself. I'm watching on a PC tonight (boo) so I couldn't make out the detail. Anyone confirm?


Otherwise, a bit of a filler ep but it probably was needed to segway into the next piece. They can't a be like last week's.

Also, of all the possible worlds the park might have, does anyone have any they'd rather see than WestWorld? I can't think of any that I'd prefer and SamuraiWorld confirms that. Just doesn't hold the same fascination to me.

FourWheelDrift

88,560 posts

285 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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Watchman said:
I read a theory that we see two Bernards - the one 2 weeks in the future doesn't have the scar from when he shot himself. I'm watching on a PC tonight (boo) so I couldn't make out the detail. Anyone confirm?
Yep I mentioned it last week.




Jonesy23

4,650 posts

137 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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rasto said:
Still as gripping as ever for me, I thought that was a great episode. Loved the Japanese story with all the parallels.
Enjoyed it. Didn't do a huge amount for moving plot along but was entertaining and interesting.

Alternate robbery was fun as was the whole Shogun World.

dieselgrunt

689 posts

165 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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I find the Dolores parts more and more tiresome as this series goes along. The Shogun world was a nice change of scenery from empty corridors and towns full of dead robots/guests.