Westworld (NO SPOILERS)
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A surprisingly large number of answers in this interview:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/westwo...
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/westwo...
I was so upset we didn't get to see the end of MiB's journey down into the elevator and then right at the end, pow! His own mini hell 
Amazing series, was a little worried that they were going to concentrate too much on the 'Sublime' or the digital paradise they made for the hosts. As interesting as it is (its theorised that the reason there is a 'great silence'/fermi paradox in the universe is that once beings reach a certain level of technology they become data in their own created universe and live forever etc and 'disappear' from the universe into a simulated one much like in the show. Or maybe we're in a simulated one already
) I'm glad they kept the main hosts wanting to stay in the real world. Awesome show, I'm starting re-watching tonight and then will console myself with the gap until the next season by watching Lost after
Amazing series, was a little worried that they were going to concentrate too much on the 'Sublime' or the digital paradise they made for the hosts. As interesting as it is (its theorised that the reason there is a 'great silence'/fermi paradox in the universe is that once beings reach a certain level of technology they become data in their own created universe and live forever etc and 'disappear' from the universe into a simulated one much like in the show. Or maybe we're in a simulated one already
) I'm glad they kept the main hosts wanting to stay in the real world. Awesome show, I'm starting re-watching tonight and then will console myself with the gap until the next season by watching Lost afterTankrizzo said:
Someone else has had a crack at the timeline (could be rubbish):
That's my take on the sequence too.timeline said:
Gala event from S1 happens, Bernard escapes with Hale.
Bernard separates from Hale but is caught by Dolores.
Bernard gets dragged by Clementine to the bunker and finds Elsie.
Bernard and Elsie find James Delos, make their way to the Cradle in the Mesa.
Bernard gets infected with Hopkins.exe and him and Elsie leave the Cradle for the Valley.
Bernard deletes Hopkins.exe and leaves Elsie.
Bernard goes to the Valley/Forge, kills Dolores after she floods the Valley and stops all the host/guest data from being deleted.
Bernard exits the Forge, finds Elsie and Hale and returns to the Mesa.
Bernard sees Hale murder Elsie and decides to make Halebot with Dolores' control unit.
Halebot assumes Hale.
Bernard goes to the beach, wipes his memory and that's where the first scene picks up once Team Delos arrives.
Bernard, Strand and Halebot go dicking around the island, "discover" that Bernard is a host and eventually to the Forge after the Valley is drained. Halebot kills the rest of the humans there, changes the data from being uploaded to Delos to someplace safe, kills Bernard and takes his control unit.
Hale leaves the island with control units for Bernard and 4 other hosts, 1 of which is NOT Teddy. He's in host heaven on some safe satellite server with the Indian and Maeve's kid. She does this after Stubbs reveals that he knows she is a host and lets off her the island anyways. In the same scene human William is found "in pretty bad shape."
Halebot makes a new Dolores and Bernard.
......far in the future...
Host Emily is running host William through loops. I think the hosts want to see if the humans will make the same choices to lead them to the same defining moment, his is killing his own daughter. Forge AI/Logan had the same theory about humans.
Bernard separates from Hale but is caught by Dolores.
Bernard gets dragged by Clementine to the bunker and finds Elsie.
Bernard and Elsie find James Delos, make their way to the Cradle in the Mesa.
Bernard gets infected with Hopkins.exe and him and Elsie leave the Cradle for the Valley.
Bernard deletes Hopkins.exe and leaves Elsie.
Bernard goes to the Valley/Forge, kills Dolores after she floods the Valley and stops all the host/guest data from being deleted.
Bernard exits the Forge, finds Elsie and Hale and returns to the Mesa.
Bernard sees Hale murder Elsie and decides to make Halebot with Dolores' control unit.
Halebot assumes Hale.
Bernard goes to the beach, wipes his memory and that's where the first scene picks up once Team Delos arrives.
Bernard, Strand and Halebot go dicking around the island, "discover" that Bernard is a host and eventually to the Forge after the Valley is drained. Halebot kills the rest of the humans there, changes the data from being uploaded to Delos to someplace safe, kills Bernard and takes his control unit.
Hale leaves the island with control units for Bernard and 4 other hosts, 1 of which is NOT Teddy. He's in host heaven on some safe satellite server with the Indian and Maeve's kid. She does this after Stubbs reveals that he knows she is a host and lets off her the island anyways. In the same scene human William is found "in pretty bad shape."
Halebot makes a new Dolores and Bernard.
......far in the future...
Host Emily is running host William through loops. I think the hosts want to see if the humans will make the same choices to lead them to the same defining moment, his is killing his own daughter. Forge AI/Logan had the same theory about humans.
davepoth said:
A surprisingly large number of answers in this interview:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/westwo...
I don't ,ike the fact that mib is far in the future, makes it boring for mehttps://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/westwo...
Jonesy23 said:
Not sure where they're going from here, that could have worked as a finish to the whole thing even if no-one really understands what's going on.
MIB bit at the end was good. "Oh f
k!"
I can't either, tat's what makes it so alluring. I never saw how they could carry on Wayward Pines in s2, but they did. I guess we'll see the world and the 'copies' of people that...Delores will make? Who is in Hale now then?MIB bit at the end was good. "Oh f
k!"Arnold has a nice house...and Ford.....is he tucked away in Maeve's head?
Aphex said:
Halb said:
Who is in Hale now then?
I'd guess AngelaI think the next series will see a more adversarial relationship between Bernard and Dolores, her trying to take over the world for the hosts and him trying to stop her.
I've just read that back and realised I don't really care all that much at this point. I could happily leave it there and not watch any more. I didn't watch Westworld for 3 weeks as I wanted to binge watch Battlestar Galactica, having never seen it. Not once did I feel the need to catch up with Westworld in that time.
Halb said:
Yeah, I like Westworld, but I don't really care. Didn't care that Lee killed himself.
You've watched the whole of BSG? How'd you like it?
Just binged it over 3 weeks for the 4th time.You've watched the whole of BSG? How'd you like it?
It's frakking phenomenal.. Left me feeling like I'd lost a family member when it ended.. it really draws you in!
14 yrs old, but still feels fresh!
Great finale though to be honest, I'd be happy enough if they left it there.
If S3 is just a generic 'Rogue android tries to take over the World' scifi set in the 'real' world, I can't see it being anything near as interesting. Apparently they are looking at ways to make the show cheaper to make as it's currently phenomenally expensive (and it looks it) but isn't the same level of moneyspinner as Game of Thrones is, so becoming more of a generic Scifi might be one path they could take.
If S3 is just a generic 'Rogue android tries to take over the World' scifi set in the 'real' world, I can't see it being anything near as interesting. Apparently they are looking at ways to make the show cheaper to make as it's currently phenomenally expensive (and it looks it) but isn't the same level of moneyspinner as Game of Thrones is, so becoming more of a generic Scifi might be one path they could take.
FourWheelDrift said:
She took 5 brain balls with her. We only saw her interact with Bernard to get 1, she had Teddy's but he also entered to the other world. Unless he can still be returned. So who are the others? Influential guests stored in the forge who can be manipulated in the real world?
Someone has been put into Hale's body as she printer a new Dolores for herself. Suspect that is going to be a host that can help, possibly Maeve, although not sure why she would help in the real world. Good point about the others being guests. When she was in the forge she said she hadn't read them all but had read enough, perhaps she found a handful of people she needs.
Halb said:
Yeah, I like Westworld, but I don't really care. Didn't care that Lee killed himself.
You've watched the whole of BSG? How'd you like it?
I'm forced to consider that BSG might be the best sci fi series I have ever watched. It explores some similar themes to Westworld (finding out you're not human etc) and I would have to say, Westworld didn't really stack up that well when watching the two side by side. You've watched the whole of BSG? How'd you like it?
Scabutz said:
Someone has been put into Hale's body as she printer a new Dolores for herself. Suspect that is going to be a host that can help, possibly Maeve, although not sure why she would help in the real world.
Good point about the others being guests. When she was in the forge she said she hadn't read them all but had read enough, perhaps she found a handful of people she needs.
I took her reading the books as being acquiring intelligence on the guests and insights into the workings of the human mind. AFAIK at this stage it's not possible to put an exact copy of a human mind into a host, although it certainly looks like they can at some indeterminate point in the future (post credits scene).Good point about the others being guests. When she was in the forge she said she hadn't read them all but had read enough, perhaps she found a handful of people she needs.
My guess is that she has 'targets' in the real world and she was reading the Delos equivalent of Facebook/Google data profiles to find out how to manipulate them.
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