Discussion
FredClogs said:
The one in Kent will most likely be the scene of some sort of Agatha Christie style who done it, when either the gay son in law or his architect lover are found bludgeoned in the piano "space".
As a house and home it's just not going to work is it?
I think to understand whether it would work as a home/house we'd need more context - we were given only clues "extended family" for example. That could be 4 people or 40 who knows.As a house and home it's just not going to work is it?
It had short-list pick written all over it, the scale, the almost cubist interpretation of our very traditional, and most definitely circular oast houses, the quality of construction etc.
Of all the long-list candidates last night it did feel as if it was the one that was truly architecturally different/new/challenging
GnuBee said:
FredClogs said:
The one in Kent will most likely be the scene of some sort of Agatha Christie style who done it, when either the gay son in law or his architect lover are found bludgeoned in the piano "space".
As a house and home it's just not going to work is it?
I think to understand whether it would work as a home/house we'd need more context - we were given only clues "extended family" for example. That could be 4 people or 40 who knows.As a house and home it's just not going to work is it?
It had short-list pick written all over it, the scale, the almost cubist interpretation of our very traditional, and most definitely circular oast houses, the quality of construction etc.
Of all the long-list candidates last night it did feel as if it was the one that was truly architecturally different/new/challenging
garyhun said:
GnuBee said:
FredClogs said:
The one in Kent will most likely be the scene of some sort of Agatha Christie style who done it, when either the gay son in law or his architect lover are found bludgeoned in the piano "space".
As a house and home it's just not going to work is it?
I think to understand whether it would work as a home/house we'd need more context - we were given only clues "extended family" for example. That could be 4 people or 40 who knows.As a house and home it's just not going to work is it?
It had short-list pick written all over it, the scale, the almost cubist interpretation of our very traditional, and most definitely circular oast houses, the quality of construction etc.
Of all the long-list candidates last night it did feel as if it was the one that was truly architecturally different/new/challenging
Beati Dogu said:
I wasn't keen on any of them really. Same old garden shed meets 1950s public toilets, with hints of Nazi coastal fortification.
Via Doctor's Surgery.Clearly I'm a Philistine, I can't see how that flat roofed, brick clad pair of containers in Bath offers anything in the way of 'local vernacular'.
I thought for the size of the place, there was precious little of the Sussex one shown (kitchen, piano room, one bedroom and the reflection pool) which would have given a little more feel for how it would actually work. Set in 84 acres that is quite the modern country house / mini estate and not sure if I was seeing right but there seemed to be similar buildings dotted in the distance. Also liked the look of the living swimming pool.
Beati Dogu said:
I wasn't keen on any of them really. Same old garden shed meets 1950s public toilets, with hints of Nazi coastal fortification.
I bet the house in London gets strangers wandering in all the time to use the facilities.
The little Scottish shed was ruined by the red roof.
The big shed with the corner window had no eaves or gutters I noticed. So the copious rainfall on the roof will run straight down the walls and windows. Quite nice inside though and those views were lovely.
Didn't they say it harvested rainwater, added to green points, so guessing it was concealed guttering.I bet the house in London gets strangers wandering in all the time to use the facilities.
The little Scottish shed was ruined by the red roof.
The big shed with the corner window had no eaves or gutters I noticed. So the copious rainfall on the roof will run straight down the walls and windows. Quite nice inside though and those views were lovely.
Bonefish Blues said:
I couldn't warm to it at all. Clearly an absolutely massive budget, so yes, of course you can commission a billion roof tiles and procure the local materials to clad your cast concrete creation to ensure it is "vernacular"...
Me too, it looked like a modern library rather than a home/s and it just seemed too massive for the peg tile covering. greygoose said:
Bonefish Blues said:
I couldn't warm to it at all. Clearly an absolutely massive budget, so yes, of course you can commission a billion roof tiles and procure the local materials to clad your cast concrete creation to ensure it is "vernacular"...
Me too, it looked like a modern library rather than a home/s and it just seemed too massive for the peg tile covering. They aren’t supposed to be what everyone wants otherwise a 4 Bed detatched with a Kitchen extension, bi folds and grey emulsion everywhere would win!
There needs to be something challenging in them all for me, otherwise it would just be identikit stuff for the masses.
For me, the Kent pile was just that. Different, challenging, unique and a genuinely new take on a traditional theme.
How many stately homes are built each year that aren’t some mock era pastiche for the arriviste?
Weird but wonderful.
I thought it was something of a pastiche of a group of oasthouses. Rather like the "reinvention" of Beetles, 500s still al, not really very original. Yes the details were lovely, but so they should be if there's the funding to commission bespoke materials.
Contrast that with Shawm House, which is modern, beautifully detailed also, and which also seems to fit its landscape without aping it.
Contrast that with Shawm House, which is modern, beautifully detailed also, and which also seems to fit its landscape without aping it.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
I dunno, I kind of feel like everyone on this thread is missing the point with these houses.
They aren’t supposed to be what everyone wants otherwise a 4 Bed detatched with a Kitchen extension, bi folds and grey emulsion everywhere would win!
There needs to be something challenging in them all for me, otherwise it would just be identikit stuff for the masses.
For me, the Kent pile was just that. Different, challenging, unique and a genuinely new take on a traditional theme.
How many stately homes are built each year that aren’t some mock era pastiche for the arriviste?
Weird but wonderful.
This.They aren’t supposed to be what everyone wants otherwise a 4 Bed detatched with a Kitchen extension, bi folds and grey emulsion everywhere would win!
There needs to be something challenging in them all for me, otherwise it would just be identikit stuff for the masses.
For me, the Kent pile was just that. Different, challenging, unique and a genuinely new take on a traditional theme.
How many stately homes are built each year that aren’t some mock era pastiche for the arriviste?
Weird but wonderful.
It was clearly built to remind you of a series of oast houses without trying to be a pastiche of them.
The idea of multi generational living is very 'now' and also as old as civilization, it's really only in recent years we've packed granny off to the old folks home as soon as was decently possible, why not pool resources and build something truly different for everyone to enjoy. Not everyone hates their in-laws and the place was big enough to be private if you want to scream at your kids or have a quicky with the sister-in-law.
But mainly, as above - it wasn't a McMansion with the obligatory multi-colour LEDs and cinema room which is clearly what 'people want' judging by the $1m and over search on Rightmove; for that reason alone it should be celebrated. It's easy to build a 'me-too' house if you have the means.
If the people that commissioned it like living in it and it doesn't tread a well-worn path then it deserved be in the shortlist. Far more in fact than any of the other houses which were well executed and very 'now' but not particularly inspired or different.
Found something to like in all of them, favourite was the barn conversion for the parents in the grounds of their previous farmhouse. Some beautiful touches and superb finish.
I do chuckle at the PH keyboard heroes who would struggle to design a garden shed yet finding everyone else’s design taste horrible
I do chuckle at the PH keyboard heroes who would struggle to design a garden shed yet finding everyone else’s design taste horrible
Mark Benson said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
I dunno, I kind of feel like everyone on this thread is missing the point with these houses.
They aren’t supposed to be what everyone wants otherwise a 4 Bed detatched with a Kitchen extension, bi folds and grey emulsion everywhere would win!
There needs to be something challenging in them all for me, otherwise it would just be identikit stuff for the masses.
For me, the Kent pile was just that. Different, challenging, unique and a genuinely new take on a traditional theme.
How many stately homes are built each year that aren’t some mock era pastiche for the arriviste?
Weird but wonderful.
This.They aren’t supposed to be what everyone wants otherwise a 4 Bed detatched with a Kitchen extension, bi folds and grey emulsion everywhere would win!
There needs to be something challenging in them all for me, otherwise it would just be identikit stuff for the masses.
For me, the Kent pile was just that. Different, challenging, unique and a genuinely new take on a traditional theme.
How many stately homes are built each year that aren’t some mock era pastiche for the arriviste?
Weird but wonderful.
It was clearly built to remind you of a series of oast houses without trying to be a pastiche of them.
The idea of multi generational living is very 'now' and also as old as civilization, it's really only in recent years we've packed granny off to the old folks home as soon as was decently possible, why not pool resources and build something truly different for everyone to enjoy. Not everyone hates their in-laws and the place was big enough to be private if you want to scream at your kids or have a quicky with the sister-in-law.
But mainly, as above - it wasn't a McMansion with the obligatory multi-colour LEDs and cinema room which is clearly what 'people want' judging by the $1m and over search on Rightmove; for that reason alone it should be celebrated. It's easy to build a 'me-too' house if you have the means.
If the people that commissioned it like living in it and it doesn't tread a well-worn path then it deserved be in the shortlist. Far more in fact than any of the other houses which were well executed and very 'now' but not particularly inspired or different.
It's certainly bold and I think variety should be welcomed.
FredClogs said:
The one in Kent will most likely be the scene of some sort of Agatha Christie style who done it, when either the gay son in law or his architect lover are found bludgeoned in the piano "space".
As a house and home it's just not going to work is it?
Looks like a giant termite mound outside and inside like a small conference centre. As a house and home it's just not going to work is it?
Seems the owners of the 'spaceship house' in Holland Park(?) didn't make many friends among the neighbours during the 12 years it took them to build, I wonder if that's why the panel were so split on whether to take them forward?
Amazing space given the footprint, but seemingly an architect who wanted what he wanted at whatever cost to others.
Amazing space given the footprint, but seemingly an architect who wanted what he wanted at whatever cost to others.
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