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garyhun said:
Whilst I have admiration for these people, I do not find these types of builds very watchable. Just not my thing I suppose.
Likewise, once the intro had finished I mentally switched off. I glance back up and some people with names spelled incorrectly are filling sacks using old tins. Just buy a shovel.marksx said:
garyhun said:
Whilst I have admiration for these people, I do not find these types of builds very watchable. Just not my thing I suppose.
Likewise, once the intro had finished I mentally switched off. I glance back up and some people with names spelled incorrectly are filling sacks using old tins. Just buy a shovel.Off to watch Big Bang Theory now.
garyhun said:
Whilst I have admiration for these people, I do not find these types of builds very watchable. Just not my thing I suppose.
It's a life choice. Both gave up pretend jobs to live in shanty lean to's, caravans and poly tunnels. Environmentally friendly my arse. 4 years of messing around with bits of wood and mud. Within 10 years they will have had enough and living in a concrete council house or mummy and daddy's house.
TimJMS said:
That was expensive to cover. Five summers of visits, and maybe five more needed. I wonder how many Grand Designs start filming and then just fizzle out when dreamers lose possession.
I wonder if it's a nature of trying to cover builds that run the risk (which obviously makes good TV) of going tits. For every couple who manages to get a bridging loan to pull them out the hole there must be the chance of one who bins it off and auctions it at a loss.I don't "hate hippies". From my experience, they do their thing and don't bother me.
Not sure what there is to hate about hippies but these were wannabe hippies in my opinion and felt they seemed quite disingenuous.
The program is called Grand Designs which to me indicates that the subject builds should have architectural or technical merit. This had neither. Furthermore, the construction was very labour intensive and the structure was such that it is likely to not have a long life then surely it isn't very environmentally friendly. Especially considering the heat input it will need to keep warm.
They used a lot of locally grown timber but so what?
A great series so far which has seen some of the best builds in my opinion send now the worst.
Not sure what there is to hate about hippies but these were wannabe hippies in my opinion and felt they seemed quite disingenuous.
The program is called Grand Designs which to me indicates that the subject builds should have architectural or technical merit. This had neither. Furthermore, the construction was very labour intensive and the structure was such that it is likely to not have a long life then surely it isn't very environmentally friendly. Especially considering the heat input it will need to keep warm.
They used a lot of locally grown timber but so what?
A great series so far which has seen some of the best builds in my opinion send now the worst.
I'm open minded and they seemed happy enough, fairplay, I'm sure a toothbrush, so e deodorant and a couple of 12oz ribeyes wouldn't have done anyone any harm though.
I wouldn't however buy my organic veg from them knowing it had been grown in their recycled st, I know all the earth is st and dead stuff, but still. You have to admire the craft and perseverance though, in a world where most of us what to buy instant gratification there is something to be admired in these people, but I doubt they'll age well.
I wouldn't however buy my organic veg from them knowing it had been grown in their recycled st, I know all the earth is st and dead stuff, but still. You have to admire the craft and perseverance though, in a world where most of us what to buy instant gratification there is something to be admired in these people, but I doubt they'll age well.
FredClogs said:
I'm open minded and they seemed happy enough, fairplay, I'm sure a toothbrush, so e deodorant and a couple of 12oz ribeyes wouldn't have done anyone any harm though.
I wouldn't however buy my organic veg from them knowing it had been grown in their recycled st, I know all the earth is st and dead stuff, but still. You have to admire the craft and perseverance though, in a world where most of us what to buy instant gratification there is something to be admired in these people, but I doubt they'll age well.
Whether it is grown in their st or horse st makes little odds to me. After all, it was good enough for The Martian. I just felt there was little to admire. It was a lifestyle choice with the pretence of being Eco and enviro friendly. I wouldn't however buy my organic veg from them knowing it had been grown in their recycled st, I know all the earth is st and dead stuff, but still. You have to admire the craft and perseverance though, in a world where most of us what to buy instant gratification there is something to be admired in these people, but I doubt they'll age well.
They ended up with a technically poor structure that will have a short life.
Had they had jobs which paid a proper salary, they could have used real Eco and enviro friendly materials in a technically superior design which would have resulted in a low energy house. They could have still carried on their hobbies of growing veg and rearing animals.
I am missing the point of course because the local authority wouldn't have allowed that kind of structure which if anything just highlights the crazy planning laws which allowed the place to exist whilst denying the use of the land for a viable building.
The headline cost was £26K because they used labour paid for by vegetables and their own labour was free. Of course it isn't free as they wouldn't work for an employer for free so how does spending their time on a project like this get calculated as free. The materials too, even if only used as fire wood had a value which if sold, could have contributed to a more worthwhile project.
In real terms it was probably about £500k if you costed the labour and materials properly. At that price, probably the worst value half finished shack I've seen in my life.
Having said that, it's their life and they wanted to do that.
As I said in the beginning. A lifestyle choice.
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