Altered Carbon - Netflix Series

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hairykrishna

13,166 posts

203 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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BenjiS said:
Wait till you've watched the last one before you read my spoiler about a second season...

The season covers the first book out of the three Richard Morgan wrote. If they do more, they'll either need to go off in a completely different direction, or do the second book. Either way the actor is out of a job, as Takeshi is no longer in Riker's sleeve. To do it just as the first novel (albeit with some changes like the Envoys completely switching sides!) means that it does standalone as a mini-series if no more are made.
They can't really do the third one as their changes mean that the whole Quell thing makes no sense. Plus Sarah has had her stack destroyed so his revenge crusade can't happen in the same way either.

I'm only a few episodes in but I'm really not a fan of the changes from the book so far. Combining Envoys/Quell and in the process changing Kovacs to some kind of misunderstood freedom fighter makes him and Envoys in general much less interesting. Does look amazing though.

QuantumTokoloshi

4,164 posts

217 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Thoroughly enjoyed it. in fact just started the second viewing of the series. I am somewhat worried that it is quite a complex story, with many strands to it, sleeves, Reileen, Bancroft murder, Mets, uprising, personal demons, neo-Catholics, VR etc. It may not grip the casual viewer into the story after an episode or two, as it can be hard going for people new to the Kovacs universe to follow it.

I think it has beautifully captured the feel of the novel, I am quite surprised and pleased how closely it follows, especially towards the end where things get quite graphic. I had expected a much greater deviation from the core story, such as Blade Runner. Either way, cracking series. More please Netflix.

HorneyMX5

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5,309 posts

150 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Finished it. Loved it.

The changes from the book were a mixed bag for me. I actually really liked EAP instead of Hendrix, wasn’t so keen on the Quel thing, indifferent about the sister.

It was a feast for the eyes and gave the brain a bit of a work out as well.

Fingers crossed for a 2nd season.

gregs656

10,879 posts

181 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Just finished it. Been holding off reading this until I did.

I liked it a lot. Thought it looked great, superb bit of world building and lots going on. The motivation of the sister and her actions just didn't add up for me though?

ribiero

548 posts

166 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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This is awesome. 5 episodes in, so glad it's not on terrestrial, they'd ruin it.

MattyB_

2,012 posts

257 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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I started watching this with no knowledge of the books - I do admit to having paused it and Google'd things I wasn't sure about either because they weren't explained or I'd missed something: like when Poe visits his AI mates playing poker, I needed a bit of exposition on the whole AI/Hotel setup...

I've only just finished Episode 6 - that Martha Higareda is certainly easy on the eye wink

Otherwise, I'm enjoying it. As mentioned, I can imagine those who prefer casual TV might be turned off as it requires pretty focused viewing.

Smollet

10,568 posts

190 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Sammo123 said:
I watched the first two episodes last night. I enjoyed the first one and then started to lose interest during the second. Not sure if I'll continue with it to be honest. I've never read the books by the way.
I'm in a similar state of mind to you as well.

ali_kat

31,989 posts

221 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Binge watched last weekend, loved it!!

thesyn

540 posts

181 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Enjoyed it a lot, no prior knowledge of the book(s).

Blue383

86 posts

117 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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This has long been one of my favourite novels and I was a bit nervous about how this would go as god knows it’s been passed around the studios and declared unfilmable several times.

Well all in all I thought it was an excellent adaptation. Only two sticking points. I’m not sure I want to see another series. That was great so let’s leave it at that. By messing with the Quell story line we can’t really follow Richard Morgan’s trilogy now.

The other thing was mumbling. Even with a good quality sound bar I had to resort to having by the subtitles up.

If you enjoyed this I strongly urge people to read Morgan’s novel Thirteeen. That would make an excellent Netflix Original.

Blue383

86 posts

117 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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This has long been one of my favourite novels and I was a bit nervous about how this would go as god knows it’s been passed around the studios and declared unfilmable several times.

Well all in all I thought it was an excellent adaptation. Only two sticking points. I’m not sure I want to see another series. That was great so let’s leave it at that. By messing with the Quell story line we can’t really follow Richard Morgan’s trilogy now.

The other thing was mumbling. Even with a good quality sound bar I had to resort to having by the subtitles up.

If you enjoyed this I strongly urge people to read Morgan’s novel Thirteeen. That would make an excellent Netflix Original.

Edited by Blue383 on Friday 9th February 21:29

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 12th February 2018
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Stuck on the ending, rest I thought was better than I had actually hoped.

wombleh

1,790 posts

122 months

Monday 12th February 2018
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Loved the books, really enjoyed the series. Hoping for more.

Lucas Ayde

3,557 posts

168 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Halfway through the season and finding it excellent so far. Trying to resist the urge to binge it.

Great visuals and action, engaging plot, lots of futuristic tech. What's not to like?

Mutts

285 posts

158 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Watched it over friday/saturday. Knew nothing about it but really enjoyed it.
Might have to read the books now.

RemaL

24,973 posts

234 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Wow the torture episode was impressive stuff. well done and delivered well

Enjoying it so far

gregs656

10,879 posts

181 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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I've being reading the first book since finishing the 1st season.

Fingers crossed the sister is handled better as I still think that character made very little sense and wasn't well acted.

SAB888

3,243 posts

207 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Smollet said:
Sammo123 said:
I watched the first two episodes last night. I enjoyed the first one and then started to lose interest during the second. Not sure if I'll continue with it to be honest. I've never read the books by the way.
I'm in a similar state of mind to you as well.
Gave up on episode 3.

BIRMA

3,808 posts

194 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Just found this, reminds me of first Total Recall and a bit of the first Bladerunner. Excellent so far but hard work, up to the third episode so far, love the Dolby picture quality and Atmos sound.

JagBox

187 posts

153 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Never heard of this before it came on Netflix. Was a struggle for the first 2 episodes but got into after that, on episode 8. As above the picture quality and sound are first rate.

BTW I'm still amazed that I can stream something in such good quality. I remember VHS tapes with 6 images when you paused!!