Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS

[Shakermaker]

Looking ahead to when Jon and Davos turn up at Dragonstone..

What's going to happen between Davos when he meets Melisandre again?

[London424]

Halb said:

Bran?

4x4Tyke said:

I'm also sold on Sam as the Narrator, it would be in very much in character to downplay his own role, which is fitting.

What do you mean?

4x4Tyke said:

Cersei needs to balance revenge vs their value as hostages. Jamie would seem likely to push this to keep House Martell out of the fight. This could increase their divisions.

Why are the Hound's companions enemies fo Arya?

They sold Gendry to Mel.

Check my link on the previous page for the Sam theory.

[GTO-3R]

Shakermaker said:

Looking ahead to when Jon and Davos turn up at Dragonstone..

What's going to happen between Davos when he meets Melisandre again?

Not just Davos as Jon wasn't too happy with her either!

I have a feeling that Sansa is going to do something silly while Jon is away, no idea what though!

[Wobbegong]

Shakermaker said:

Looking ahead to when Jon and Davos turn up at Dragonstone..

What's going to happen between Davos when he meets Melisandre again?

I foresee boobs

[Wobbegong]

FourWheelDrift said:

4x4Tyke said:

Still no information on Gendry, he is too important to be hidden for much longer, is he the only a good suitor for Sansa. Have they ever met?

Next episode, he's rowing past and saves Theon from the Blackwater.

[Halb]

I've read the narrator thing now, I could possibly see the programme doing that. If Sam meets Dani and doesn't die.

[SpielBoy]

FourWheelDrift said:

AndyWoodall said:

Something occurred to me, who survives that knows he betrayed Ned in the throne room in S1? Anyone? Certainly Sansa never knew.

The Hound.

Arya's faceless man training allows her to see through lies

Littlefinger will say something about circumstances of Neds death

Arya will see through his lie and realise he was complicit

Arya will kill Littlefinger

[RoadRunner220]

ZesPak said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Yara and Elaria are the gift for Cersei.

Yara, Elaria AND Tyene.

Although I do see Euron only offering one of them, Elaria, to Cersei.
She has little meaning to him but is arguably the most valuable to Cersei, as she basically is the Queen of Dorne.

Wasn't it the Queen of Dorne who poisoned, and killed, Cersie's daughter ?

[RoadRunner220]

Zetec-S said:

glazbagun said:

Cersei seems very alone but a few good battles would see the end of that. I can see Tarly betraying Cersei and Jamie killing her.

This is an interesting idea, something I hadn't thought of before. Kings Landing under siege, Cersei threatening to burn the city to the ground rather than surrendering, and Jamie repeating his past and becoming the "Queenslayer"?

We were discussing this at work and someone said that they thought that when Cersie met Melisandre when she was a child and that she predicted/foresaw that all three of her children would die, that they thought she also said that she would die at the hand of her younger brother and has always mistrusted Tyrion ever since. Then went on to speculate that whilst Jamie and Cersie are twins, Cersie is actually the elder by a few minutes so technically Jamie is also her younger brother and therefore is the person who kills her according to the red witches prophesy.

No idea personally if any of those details are correct, sounded plausible though.

[Lance Catamaran]

ZesPak said:

robemcdonald said:

Underwhelmed again. Lots of nothing much happening before someone turned up for some pointless exposition. "She has dragons, dragons breath fire, fire kills walkers" do we really need this spelt out?
The avengers assembled at dragonstone. Tyrion is Nick Fury?
I am quite enjoying the scenes at the citadel though. Purely because for the first two episodes they have had me hiding behind a cushion in the style of a eight year old watching Dr Who.
As for the battle at the end? Once again we had a demonstration of how absolutely rubbish the sand snakes are. I assume they were a force to be reckoned with in the books? Well at least we won't have to worry about them anymore. Theon went full retard. Never go full retard. The battle itself was fairly dull done at night to save money as well. Euron feels like a very poor substitute for Ramsey. Nowhere near as interesting.
Final insult? The dragon killing cross bow. Just imagine it in action;
"Right lads. Let's take aim at that fast moving dragon"
"It's too fast boss"
"Hurry up then"
"Ok boss"
"Fire!"
"Oh bugger. We missed. Reload"
"Boss the dragon is looking at us...."
"Bugger"
Still I'm sure at least one of the dragons will end up with a stupid death by cross bow.

There are only seven episodes this year. They took six months longer to make fewer episodes and so far the quality is pretty poor. If the first series was this quality none of us would still be watching.
I would say this weeks episode is a solid 6/10

I'm hoping things are going to improve.

I think it depends on how many they can make tbh.
If it was one, it would be pretty ridiculous (see: the Hobbit), but if they could flood king's landing with them or make them mobile, even a couple of dozen, they'd stand a chance of hitting one.

It's a big iron rod, even hitting a dragon in the wing with it could send it to the ground, which could make all the difference.


Still liking the theory of the White Walker raising his hands and waking a dead dragon though .

Perhaps some biologists/physicists might be able to clarify, but I remember reading an article that said even a small tear in a wing that size would massively impairs its ability to fly.

[FiF]

Maybe I wasn't paying sufficient attention, but when the guy building the antiDragon weapon appeared, did a double take, wtf is the High Sparrow doing here?

Must be just me then.

Like Sam as the narrator idea.

[Halb]

RoadRunner220 said:

Wasn't it the Queen of Dorne who poisoned, and killed, Cersie's daughter ?

It was Ellaria, Oberyn's shagdoll.
But not the Prince of Dorne is dead, that means Dorne is leaderless, Stormlands are leaderless, if anything happens to Ollenna, the Reach will be leaderless, all the great families are hanging by a thread!!
Vale only has that sickly kid...in fact the Starks are currently the strongest family, seeing as how the Lannisters aren't united.

SpielBoy said:

Arya's faceless man training allows her to see through lies

Littlefinger will say something about circumstances of Neds death

Arya will see through his lie and realise he was complicit

Arya will kill Littlefinger

It was her Syrio training that allowed her to see through lies, it's faceless man training that encourages her to lie.

RoadRunner220 said:

We were discussing this at work and someone said that they thought that when Cersie met Melisandre..D

that was Maggy the frog.

[Pesty]

So far seems a little more formulaic.

So the fleet has been attacked and destroyed characters captured better not kill the hot one

I expect that the unsullied will get a hard time too maybe even defeated?

It's got to look bad before it looks good in most tv writing but got seemed to be different.

Why she doesn't just take the dragons burn all her eenemies then take over ...

[dudleybloke]

Greyworm gives a bit of stump and grind.

[Japveesix]

JagLover said:

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Someone mentioned the hot pie scene being poor, but I think Arya was supposed to feel "off" in that scene to show how much she had lost.

Surely the whole scene, at least until she found out about Rob, was channeling her inner Hound and showing just how much like him she'd become. Dismissive single word answers, "got any ale", grabbing huge portions of food and eating like a ravenous pig (like he did with a whole chicken at some point) and so on.

Then when she finds out about her family etc it brings back the old, softer and younger Arya again.

[glazbagun]

Calza said:

I'm really disappointed that the mad professors ultimate secret weapon against dragons is a fking ballista. Seriously?!

Edited by Calza on Monday 24th July 22:55

Given that mounted knights seem to still be a big deal it's possible that Bow/Arrow combo's havent evolved very far in this world. The wildlings used them and I think they were used in defence of Kings Landing vs Stannis but they've tended to show up as hunting weapons.

I remember Joffrey being super excited about what,at the end of the day, was just a crossbow. Maybe a giant crossbow is a whole new thing.

[Halb]

Skill with a bow is a highly appreciated skill, Anguy was a big deal up until he has to be forgotten about, because he could probably kill a dragon fairly easily.

[irocfan]

Wayoftheflower said:

Maybe stab them with something long and sharp, like, A Lance..

y'mean we could see Sturm Brightblade or even Huma?

[GravelBen]

Halb said:

But not the Prince of Dorne is dead, that means Dorne is leaderless

When did Doran die? I don't remember that.

ETA: Never mind, thinking of the books as I've been re-reading them lately.

Edited by GravelBen on Wednesday 26th July 07:27

[zebra]

RoadRunner220 said:

skahigh said:

Halb said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Butter Face said:

Is Yara dead or not?

Yara and Elaria are the gift for Cersei.

Well that's rather straight forward, I was hoping it'd be a dragon.

I was expecting it would be Tyrion's head.

Yeah, I thought he might be talking about Tyrion as well

Whilst Tyrion killed their father, Elaria is responsible for killing the daughter; that affects Cersei more.