Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS

Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS

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4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

133 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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FourWheelDrift said:
Death by Mountain. Or death by wildfire like the mad Queen she is.
Agree, that Death by Mountain is probably her plan, but not necessarily the outcome.

Bronn vs the Mountain, unlikely but would be pretty cool fight I think.

Trial by combat was outlawed, presumable back on the cards now if it suits

TEKNOPUG

18,974 posts

206 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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Why is the audio such garbage? I have to crank the volume way up with GoT - much higher than any other show/channel that I'd comfortably listen to. No problem with anything else on SKY Atlantic.

FiF

44,150 posts

252 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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TEKNOPUG said:
Why is the audio such garbage? I have to crank the volume way up with GoT - much higher than any other show/channel that I'd comfortably listen to. No problem with anything else on SKY Atlantic.
Agreed it's a pain. Clearly we don't want vocal projection with every actor trying to outdo Brian Blessed, but there's a limit.

Another particularly bad show is Black Sails, every actor saying lines in a gritty 60 Capstan Full Strength a day gravelly whisper in order to seem really hard. If you turn the sound up so you can hear it, get into a battle scene or worse, the adverts, and it's suddenly so loud that the dog leaps 4 foot in the air roused from his slumbers.

Sway

26,329 posts

195 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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FiF said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Why is the audio such garbage? I have to crank the volume way up with GoT - much higher than any other show/channel that I'd comfortably listen to. No problem with anything else on SKY Atlantic.
Agreed it's a pain. Clearly we don't want vocal projection with every actor trying to outdo Brian Blessed, but there's a limit.

Another particularly bad show is Black Sails, every actor saying lines in a gritty 60 Capstan Full Strength a day gravelly whisper in order to seem really hard. If you turn the sound up so you can hear it, get into a battle scene or worse, the adverts, and it's suddenly so loud that the dog leaps 4 foot in the air roused from his slumbers.
However, this is a benefit when we consider Littlefinger's horrific accent, that seemed to appear around season 5...

Halb

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53,012 posts

184 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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It's cooled a little recently.


Deathlist.
I foresee imminent ends for the two captured Dorne girls, and for Grey Worm and some/all unsullied.

In the show at least, Jon is one type of song, he is the union of ice and fire.
Will the Iron throne even exist at the end?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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Can you imagine if it ends and the White Walkers prevail and literally everyone dies?! Worldwide wtf meltdown!

Remember...."if you're looking for a happy ending you're watching the wrong show"

Halb

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53,012 posts

184 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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The show has taken a drastic Hollywood turn though, good guys v bad guys.
I still hope, but I don't think the show will have any true surprises...like the red wedding, or the Baelor episode
Theon did surprise me mildly though...

Parsnip

3,122 posts

189 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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FiF said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Why is the audio such garbage? I have to crank the volume way up with GoT - much higher than any other show/channel that I'd comfortably listen to. No problem with anything else on SKY Atlantic.
Agreed it's a pain. Clearly we don't want vocal projection with every actor trying to outdo Brian Blessed, but there's a limit.

Another particularly bad show is Black Sails, every actor saying lines in a gritty 60 Capstan Full Strength a day gravelly whisper in order to seem really hard. If you turn the sound up so you can hear it, get into a battle scene or worse, the adverts, and it's suddenly so loud that the dog leaps 4 foot in the air roused from his slumbers.
VOLVO

llewop

3,594 posts

212 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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Halb said:
The show has taken a drastic Hollywood turn though, good guys v bad guys.
I still hope, but I don't think the show will have any true surprises...like the red wedding, or the Baelor episode
Theon did surprise me mildly though...
That is an interesting point: logically (the way most would want/expect it to play out) good will win in the end.....

But with it being JRRM we're all anticipating carnage on the way, but presuming the 'main' characters will be around to somewhere close to the bitter end. But which will be the end? The final player when the music stops and gets to sit on the iron throne, or the war with the white walkers? Will the latter make everyone, eventually, join together in an unholy alliance to fight them, only to break into a bun fight once they are (inevitably) defeated, or the other way round, some of the factions manage to defeat the white walkers and then take the iron throne?

a true surprise would be if one of the inner circle (Jon, Daenerys, Tyrion, Cersei, Jamie, Bran, Sansa and Arya) were to die 'early', even in this series rather than the final one. I tend to think all the other characters are peripheral (and therefore expendable), except perhaps Littlefinger, but he's mostly lurking in shadows smirking at the moment.... but he was also doing that in series one, so it could be he'll become more significant at some point; otherwise why keep such an irritating character around for so long!

Like you, I doubt there will be a huge surprise to come, not least as the Hollywood angle and even a cynic like JRRM would, presumably, ultimately want to have 'the good guys' win means there is a logical path for what remains, although sure to be some diversions and twists!

lemmingjames

7,462 posts

205 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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But who are the good guys though?

robemcdonald

8,811 posts

197 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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llewop said:
That is an interesting point: logically (the way most would want/expect it to play out) good will win in the end.....

But with it being JRRM we're all anticipating carnage on the way, but presuming the 'main' characters will be around to somewhere close to the bitter end. But which will be the end? The final player when the music stops and gets to sit on the iron throne, or the war with the white walkers? Will the latter make everyone, eventually, join together in an unholy alliance to fight them, only to break into a bun fight once they are (inevitably) defeated, or the other way round, some of the factions manage to defeat the white walkers and then take the iron throne?

a true surprise would be if one of the inner circle (Jon, Daenerys, Tyrion, Cersei, Jamie, Bran, Sansa and Arya) were to die 'early', even in this series rather than the final one. I tend to think all the other characters are peripheral (and therefore expendable), except perhaps Littlefinger, but he's mostly lurking in shadows smirking at the moment.... but he was also doing that in series one, so it could be he'll become more significant at some point; otherwise why keep such an irritating character around for so long!

Like you, I doubt there will be a huge surprise to come, not least as the Hollywood angle and even a cynic like JRRM would, presumably, ultimately want to have 'the good guys' win means there is a logical path for what remains, although sure to be some diversions and twists!
I'll be surprised if Cersei makes it to the end of this year.

My prediction for the remainder of the run is:

Series 7 - alliances and battles between men, not too much walker stuff until the final episode where the wall will come down. Cersei to be offed by Jamie at the end of episode 6 before being squished by the mountain. I also think little finger will go this year as well.

Series 8 - will be lots of Sam in old town preparations and relevlations before the grand finale at winterfell. I don't think Jon or Danni will get to sit on the iron throne either. I think Sansa will end up as queen.


Not spoilers as it's complete speculation.

Halb

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53,012 posts

184 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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I wonder if the Wall will fall?

Are the White Walkers baddies?

I see LF dying soon.


chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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I wonder if bran knows the truth about LF, from all of his visions, and tells Sansa!

Spanna

3,732 posts

177 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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Halb said:
I wonder if the Wall will fall?

Are the White Walkers baddies?

I see LF dying soon.


The Hound says this when looking in the flames. "Marching past."



This is from season 7 opening credits. The sea itself looks frozen around the wall by Eastwatch-by-the-Sea. Jon has already decided the wildlings will man the Eastwatch castle, so I see a huge loss up there and we lose Tormund, which will be sad to see if it happens.

The archmaester Sam is working under also said something about The Wall having stood through every winter and people believing events were the end of the World when they weren't. I don't see The Wall coming down.

I do hope Littlefinger gets his ending soon, I think he's due a mistake that gets him in a situation he can't overcome, not before royally fking someone over though! Sansa can marry her cousin in The Vale if need be and take some power over the Knights of the Vale and their powerful army. Those cutting through swathes of undead could be fun to watch. Having said that, the scene with Littlefinger and Jon in the crypt felt to me like LF pushing some buttons to see what gets Jon's back up. Sansa was the answer to that, so maybe we see a LF Sansa twist that fks Jon over in some way.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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I'd love to see Sansa lure LF into her bedroom then shove a f**king big sword right up him.

Spanna

3,732 posts

177 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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Beefmeister said:
I'd love to see Sansa lure LF into her bedroom then shove a f**king big sword right up him.
Me too, but I think she sees the long game of using him. He loves her, maybe that's his single weakness in the pursuit of the Iron Throne. I'll be waking up an hour early in the morning to catch the episode. Anyone watch it live?

Ructions

4,705 posts

122 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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Spanna said:
Beefmeister said:
I'd love to see Sansa lure LF into her bedroom then shove a f**king big sword right up him.
Me too, but I think she sees the long game of using him. He loves her, maybe that's his single weakness in the pursuit of the Iron Throne. I'll be waking up an hour early in the morning to catch the episode. Anyone watch it live?
I don't get the dislike for Little Finger, he's a survivor, much like Varys, I don't ever see him on the Iron Throne, but he will have a major say in who does.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

133 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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Halb said:
The show has taken a drastic Hollywood turn though, good guys v bad guys.
I still hope, but I don't think the show will have any true surprises...like the red wedding, or the Baelor episode
Theon did surprise me mildly though...
For me the surprise was that Yara was such a rubbish commander.

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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4x4Tyke said:
For me the surprise was that Yara was such a rubbish commander.
Yep, one would have thought she'd deploy screening vessels to cover the fleet, standard practice. To have the enemy fleet just 'appear' like that in the midst of Yara's fleet was a little too hard to believe

Halb

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53,012 posts

184 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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Ructions said:
I don't get the dislike for Little Finger, he's a survivor, much like Varys, I don't ever see him on the Iron Throne, but he will have a major say in who does.
His actions, and others, have helped kill tens if not hundreds of thousands.