Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS

Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS

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TheGuru

744 posts

101 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Wobbegong said:
When they sent Gendry off for the marathon I was half expecting to not see him for another four seasons.

Out of interest, how did the ravens and dragons achieve warp speed? irked

A good episode on the surface but it's starting to look very sloppy when you look a little deeper frown
There was some poor editing too, I think they could have easily changed that scene on the island to make it look like they were stranded for 2-3 days which would have validated the time taken.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

132 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Sway said:
Just seen an interesting theory:

However, all this falls apart when you consider that he could have taken out not only a dragon (and the biggest one at that) but also fked his only human opposition by then throwing in his army to mop them up on the ground... Instead of taking aim for a flying one further away...
At first he is targeting Drogon, but we see him shift his attention when Viserion flies towards him breathing fire, dragon fire is clearly a threat to him that needs to be dealt with immediately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se-246EPrWU

The hole for me for Benjen conveniently showing up.

Edited by 4x4Tyke on Tuesday 22 August 09:28

KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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mrtwisty said:
Did anyone else spot the eyes on Longclaw's wolf head pommel turn blue? What was that about?
Just had a quick look again and can't see that. What point did it happen?

skahigh

2,023 posts

131 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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4x4Tyke said:
At first he is targeting Drogon, but we see him shift his attention when Viserion flies towards him breathing fire, dragon fire is clearly a threat to him that needs to be dealt with immediately.

The hole for me for Benjen conveniently showing up.
Not to mention the whole 'come with me' 'there's no time' lines.

Eh? They had time to have a chat about it but not time for him to just jump on the horse and go? Righto.

It's all got really Hollywood and you can tell they no longer have book dialogue to work from, the scene on the boat with Jon and Dany was really cringeworthy.

ali_kat

31,991 posts

221 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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4x4Tyke said:
At first he is targeting Drogon, but we see him shift his attention when Viserion flies towards him breathing fire, dragon fire is clearly a threat to him that needs to be dealt with immediately.
That's how I saw it too; but everyone else's questions made me think I'd interpreted it wrong.

Where did Rheugar (sp) go? He was following V down & then disappeared; why did he torch them all as Drogon clearly wanted to be off to do?!

Edited by ali_kat on Tuesday 22 August 09:39

ukbabz

1,549 posts

126 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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I think the taking down of the riderless dragon (viserion?) whilst Drogon with Dany riding survived does illustrate something the books hammered home. That the dragons need riders to be useful. At the moment the Dragons on their own lack the finer survival instincts of a human (e.g. I'm a big ass dragon, you can't hurt me). The ballista to Drogon highlighted they can get hurt by none magic means, and one of the reasons Drogon avoided death appeared to be Dany's input.

Whether this is realised by Dany or she juts pulls her children from the fight is hard to judge given her character on the show.

FourWheelDrift

88,527 posts

284 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Spanna said:
Ayra-Sansagate is the most unbelievable BS.
That had all been created by Littlefinger, I think Arya knows and is going along with his plan for now. I just wonder who's face she will be wearing when she kills him.

Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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mrtwisty said:
Did anyone else spot the eyes on Longclaw's wolf head pommel turn blue? What was that about?
YOur drink being spiked?

Edited by Halb on Tuesday 22 August 10:25

Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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4x4Tyke said:
Dany saw Jon's chest wounds from his death wounds and they are still raw, over two years later.





When the hound points at the arrow shaped mountain, that is the place is where the NK was created by the children of the forest. This explains a lot of the questions as to why he hasn't marched south yet. It is a place of power to gather his strength.


Edited by 4x4Tyke on Tuesday 22 August 10:14
It's only a few months isn't it? PLus, if he's not actually alive, they'll always stay.

How do you know about the mountain?

skahigh

2,023 posts

131 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Halb said:
mrtwisty said:
Did anyone else spot the eyes on Longclaw's wolf head pommel turn blue? What was that about?
YOur drink being spiked?

Edited by Halb on Tuesday 22 August 10:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2qdH4MY2g0

Sway

26,277 posts

194 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Halb said:
mrtwisty said:
Did anyone else spot the eyes on Longclaw's wolf head pommel turn blue? What was that about?
YOur drink being spiked?

Edited by Halb on Tuesday 22 August 10:25
Loads online about it - apparently the eye opens when Jorah gives it back to Jon, then when it's lying on the ice waiting for Jon to become the ice swimming champion the eye turns blue...

I didn't see it, but lots are positing that it is somehow Longclaw turning into Lightbringer.

Or could just be grasping at straws.

Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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I'd read that the WW targets Drogon and then changes to the other one last minute, but after watching it, I didn't interpret it that way.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

132 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Bullett said:
Is Arya going to go to KL with Brienne?
It gets her close to Cersai with little bother.
Wearing LF's face tongue out.

jesusbuiltmycar

4,537 posts

254 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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4x4Tyke said:
Killing a WW does kill his undead hoard
Apart from the one that is wear full plot armour....

SilverSixer

8,202 posts

151 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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4x4Tyke said:
Bullett said:
Is Arya going to go to KL with Brienne?
It gets her close to Cersai with little bother.
Wearing LF's face tongue out.
Does wearing a taller person's face make you taller too? How would Arya pretend to be 6 foot Littlefinger when she's 4 feet 10? It's all getting a bit Blackadder, when he tries to pretend he's Lord Farrow with a bag on his head.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

132 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Halb said:
It's only a few months isn't it? PLus, if he's not actually alive, they'll always stay.

How do you know about the mountain?
Think its longer than that, he was killed in S4 finale, resurrected in S5 opener, and we are near the end of S6, so by my reckoning that is two years.

I recognised the mountain as soon as the hound pointed to it, it is in the background when the Children of the Forest make the night king. Hopefully you can see it here. It might just be the same shooting location, but then why would the hound draw such a strong pointer to it.





paulrockliffe

15,707 posts

227 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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SilverSixer said:
Does wearing a taller person's face make you taller too? How would Arya pretend to be 6 foot Littlefinger when she's 4 feet 10? It's all getting a bit Blackadder, when he tries to pretend he's Lord Farrow with a bag on his head.
Have you watched the show much? It's not just dressing up, it's magic like all the other magic. Watch the first scene in Season 7 again.

Patrick Bateman

12,183 posts

174 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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4x4Tyke said:
At first he is targeting Drogon, but we see him shift his attention when Viserion flies towards him breathing fire, dragon fire is clearly a threat to him that needs to be dealt with immediately.

The hole for me for Benjen conveniently showing up.
When saving Bran and Meera in season 6, Benjen specifically says 'the three-eyed raven sent for me'.

Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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4x4Tyke said:
Think its longer than that, he was killed in S4 finale, resurrected in S5 opener, and we are near the end of S6, so by my reckoning that is two years.
I recognised the mountain as soon as the hound pointed to it, it is in the background when the Children of the Forest make the night king. Hopefully you can see it here. It might just be the same shooting location, but then why would the hound draw such a strong pointer to it.

Good spot on the mountain, though not sure why the WW would be marching their wights around like in a MOntuy Python sketch...also means that Gendry is one helluva runner! biggrin

Jon dies and then is resurrected in a day or so,he then hangs the mutineers and goes out to take Winterfell, so he spends a month or so rallying troops across the north, then attacks Winterfell, proclaimed King in the North and then heads off to Dragonstone for a month or so...so it should be under 4 months I reckon.

Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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SilverSixer said:
Does wearing a taller person's face make you taller too? How would Arya pretend to be 6 foot Littlefinger when she's 4 feet 10? It's all getting a bit Blackadder, when he tries to pretend he's Lord Farrow with a bag on his head.
Quite.

Or the German prince as Nursey!