Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS

Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS

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ali_kat

31,993 posts

222 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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4x4Tyke said:
Are we considering the E8 teaser to a spoiler to not posted at all, or is wrapping it in a tag sufficient?
I don't think they have been so before, but I would think it needs to be in tags.

HairyPoppins

702 posts

83 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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4x4Tyke said:
Are we considering the E8 teaser to a spoiler to not posted at all, or is wrapping it in a tag sufficient?
If it's been broadcast/made available to the general public then it's fair to comment on it surely. It would be like not mentioning the trailer to next weeks Dr Who which is broadcast after each actual episode.

The E8 trailer has been made available to everyone on the official GoT website.

ETA: Here's the trailer - it doesn't give anything away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5xdTlgaaaw



Edited by HairyPoppins on Tuesday 22 August 13:28

Doofus

25,864 posts

174 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Bullett said:
To avoid typing the same thing.
Littlefinger
NightKing
Kings Landing
Ah. Laziness, then wink

Bullett also said:
Ser Friendzone is a good one as well.
I don't know what that is.

ali_kat

31,993 posts

222 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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SilverSixer said:
Look, the Night King got some dead dolphins to do it for him, OK?

Sheesh.
laugh

Spoiler tags because it's just my 'oh gods, no!! Thoughts' on how it all ends & some may not want to see/discuss.

I'm really hoping they don't do a Dallas...

Have Bran wake up after the fall and it's all been a drug induced dream based on Old Nan's tales


Halb

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53,012 posts

184 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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I liked the names given out a while back by that bloke who couldn't remember anything or anyone.

chris watton said:
I think GRRM used Medieval times to reflect the attitudes, fashion, weapons and ships. With that in mind, no iron chains, less so studded iron chains would have been used by ships, even as late as the early 19th Century, rope was used for many applications, including anchor raising.

But, this is all fantasy, I guess - but rope would have been more 'believable' for raising the dragon.
Parts are medieval, the free cities are more renaissance influenced. It's not all uniform, I know the show didn't have it, but a chain was used at the battle of Blackwater. Plus keeps have them etc. GRRM is a pretty big history buff, and is mates with Bernard Cromwell.

gadgetmac

14,984 posts

109 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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HairyPoppins said:
If it's been broadcast/made available to the general public then it's fair to comment on it surely. It would be like not mentioning the trailer to next weeks Dr Who which is broadcast after each actual episode.

The E8 trailer has been made available to everyone on the official GoT website.

ETA: Here's the trailer - it doesn't give anything away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5xdTlgaaaw
I'd agree with that. They show snippets of next weeks show on Thronecast too.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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gadgetmac said:
I'd agree with that. They show snippets of next weeks show on Thronecast too.
I'm a spoiler Nazi and am firmly of the view that the previews are definitely not spoilers, as they're in the public domain.

FourWheelDrift

88,574 posts

285 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Ozzy Man review "the Hound metaphorically points to his brother" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV0m_6VGbU4

ZesPak

24,438 posts

197 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Halb said:
I liked the names given out a while back by that bloke who couldn't remember anything or anyone.

chris watton said:
I think GRRM used Medieval times to reflect the attitudes, fashion, weapons and ships. With that in mind, no iron chains, less so studded iron chains would have been used by ships, even as late as the early 19th Century, rope was used for many applications, including anchor raising.

But, this is all fantasy, I guess - but rope would have been more 'believable' for raising the dragon.
Parts are medieval, the free cities are more renaissance influenced. It's not all uniform, I know the show didn't have it, but a chain was used at the battle of Blackwater. Plus keeps have them etc. GRRM is a pretty big history buff, and is mates with Bernard Cromwell.
The big kicker of it all is that it's a civilization that could have been like or beyond ours (don't forget we've got bloodlines and structures hundreds, maybe thousands of years back).
Nukes Dragons halt progress. So does magic. So it might be that some tech has evolved a lot further than others.

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

137 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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skeeterm5 said:
One thought, will the "dead" dragon still breath fire? Or will this turn to ice as its primary weapon?
It'd be a good trick breathing fire as I seem to remember someone made a sodding great hole in it and all the fire was leaking out. They might have it moving around again but are they going to patch it up too? And will it go rotten like the others do, won't fly well if it does, though being far from intact doesn't seem to make a difference to the wights being able to move.

The logic is full of holes though so I'm sure 'magic' will paper over them.

FourWheelDrift

88,574 posts

285 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Jonesy23 said:
It'd be a good trick breathing fire as I seem to remember someone made a sodding great hole in it and all the fire was leaking out. They might have it moving around again but are they going to patch it up too? And will it go rotten like the others do, won't fly well if it does, though being far from intact doesn't seem to make a difference to the wights being able to move.

The logic is full of holes though so I'm sure 'magic' will paper over them.
It's magic that moves the wights, some have no muscle on their bare bone legs but they still move.

ZesPak

24,438 posts

197 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Patrick Bateman said:
If ever a show benefited from re-watching, it's this.
Indeed, just fell on this little gem.
Listen to this at 0:44:

https://youtu.be/CJw7nqSwDHs?t=45s

JDhog

27 posts

163 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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FourWheelDrift said:
Ozzy Man review "the Hound metaphorically points to his brother" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV0m_6VGbU4
LOL.

I look forward to his reviews just as much as look forward to the show every week. Laugh like a drain for 8 minutes each week as he nails it.

paulrockliffe

15,724 posts

228 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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ali_kat said:
laugh

Spoiler tags because it's just my 'oh gods, no!! Thoughts' on how it all ends & some may not want to see/discuss.

I'm really hoping they don't do a Dallas...

Have Bran wake up after the fall and it's all been a drug induced dream based on Old Nan's tales
I'm genuinely not sure they won't come up with something worse!

HairyPoppins

702 posts

83 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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ZesPak said:
Patrick Bateman said:
If ever a show benefited from re-watching, it's this.
Indeed, just fell on this little gem.
Listen to this at 0:44:

https://youtu.be/CJw7nqSwDHs?t=45s
Don't get it.

p1doc

3,126 posts

185 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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ali_kat said:
I know smile I was expounding wink

I also want to know why one didn't 'die' when the WW it was with died, like the others...
I thought I was because the one had been reanimated by a different WW
Hound proved himself scared against bear and stupid showing wights how strong ice is,not a good start to hero role lol
how fast is gendry-must have been all those years rowing....

Halb

Original Poster:

53,012 posts

184 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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ZesPak said:
The big kicker of it all is that it's a civilization that could have been like or beyond ours (don't forget we've got bloodlines and structures hundreds, maybe thousands of years back).
Nukes Dragons halt progress. So does magic. So it might be that some tech has evolved a lot further than others.
People have hypothesised it's to do with gunpowder, Planetos doesn't have it.
Also other things, like people actively trying to quash advancement, like the maesters.
In the books it's not a Harry Potter wave the wand stuff happens sort of magic. I think it's more like tech, or at least, that window exists.
Dragons weren't natural and were engineered by the Valyrians.

FourWheelDrift

88,574 posts

285 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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p1doc said:
how fast is gendry-must have been all those years rowing....
I don't think he had far to go, they were only walking slowly out from Eastwatch and found the army in the same daylight with more of the day to go. Bran's raven warg showed they weren't far in the earlier episode. Gendry got back to Eastwatch as it was getting dark.

Ructions

4,705 posts

122 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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In a behind the scenes video for the episode Weiss and Benioff said that they had been trying to get a zombie polar bear into the show for the last four seasons but they kept getting told no ,due to budgetary constraints.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx9dRL1BCCQ&fe...

Its a very interesting video ,they converted a quarry in Belfast into the frozen Lake,a huge job.

Even the director of the episode admitted that they were stretching plausibility with the timeline in this episode.
They were only on the lake for one night.



said:
“We were aware that timing was getting a little hazy,” Taylor told Variety. “We’ve got Gendry running back, ravens flying a certain distance, dragons having to fly back a certain distance…In terms of the emotional experience, [Jon and company] sort of spent one dark night on the island in terms of storytelling moments. We tried to hedge it a little bit with the eternal twilight up there north of The Wall. I think there was some effort to fudge the timeline a little bit by not declaring exactly how long we were there. I think that worked for some people, for other people it didn’t. They seemed to be very concerned about how fast a raven can fly but there’s a thing called plausible impossibilities, which is what you try to achieve, rather than impossible plausibilities. So I think we were straining plausibility a little bit, but I hope the story’s momentum carries over some of that stuff.”
“It’s cool that the show is so important to so many people that it’s being scrutinized so thoroughly,” he continued. “If the show was struggling, I’d be worried about those concerns, but the show seems to be doing pretty well so it’s OK to have people with those concerns.”

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Ructions said:
In a behind the scenes video for the episode Weiss and Benioff said that they had been trying to get a zombie polar bear into the show for the last four seasons but they kept getting told no ,due to budgetary constraints.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx9dRL1BCCQ&fe...

Its a very interesting video ,they converted a quarry in Belfast into the frozen Lake,a huge job.

Even the director of the episode admitted that they were stretching plausibility with the timeline in this episode.
They were only on the lake for one night.



said:
“We were aware that timing was getting a little hazy,” Taylor told Variety. “We’ve got Gendry running back, ravens flying a certain distance, dragons having to fly back a certain distance…In terms of the emotional experience, [Jon and company] sort of spent one dark night on the island in terms of storytelling moments. We tried to hedge it a little bit with the eternal twilight up there north of The Wall. I think there was some effort to fudge the timeline a little bit by not declaring exactly how long we were there. I think that worked for some people, for other people it didn’t. They seemed to be very concerned about how fast a raven can fly but there’s a thing called plausible impossibilities, which is what you try to achieve, rather than impossible plausibilities. So I think we were straining plausibility a little bit, but I hope the story’s momentum carries over some of that stuff.”
“It’s cool that the show is so important to so many people that it’s being scrutinized so thoroughly,” he continued. “If the show was struggling, I’d be worried about those concerns, but the show seems to be doing pretty well so it’s OK to have people with those concerns.”
It is a shame, I am sure the timeline regarding Gendry could have been resolved by the writers making Dany pre-empt the danger and flying off to help them before the raven reached her. That would have made more sense. However, as we have seen with other great film people (Ridley Scott, for example), common sense doesn't seem to register.

My favourite episode of this season still remains episode 4..