Saving lives at sea: BBC 1

[Laurel Green]

The outrigger on that kayak looked a tad flimsy to be used in 'extreme sports'.

[Eric Mc]

One of my favourite series. Will catch up with it tonight.

[DS240]

I like the series but I do find it goes over the top with the dramatics. Too much ‘I thought it was life of death’ and making things more dramatic than what they were. It is interesting without the need for the extra ‘jeopardy’ constantly.

Made jersey look nice with the aerial shots. I used to work with the kayaker who went off for help, very experienced kayaker, paddle boarder. Pretty much his life both as leisure and competition I think it would be fair to say. To put a perspective on why someone would go out in crap conditions.

[woodypup59]

The folks at the coal face are fantastically dedicated volunteers, facing danger on every shout.

However, the Chief Exec is paid an awful lot (£188k in 2017) and has just had a thumping increase.

I'd like to know how he justifies it.

[ecsrobin]

woodypup59 said:

The folks at the coal face are fantastically dedicated volunteers, facing danger on every shout.

However, the Chief Exec is paid an awful lot (£188k in 2017) and has just had a thumping increase.

I'd like to know how he justifies it.

I always thought this regarding big charities. But when you consider the amount of money a large charity needs to generate and the amount of resources/assets you have then you need to be paying industry standard wages to recruit the best and most suitable people for the job.

[drakart]

ecsrobin said:

woodypup59 said:

The folks at the coal face are fantastically dedicated volunteers, facing danger on every shout.

However, the Chief Exec is paid an awful lot (£188k in 2017) and has just had a thumping increase.

I'd like to know how he justifies it.

I always thought this regarding big charities. But when you consider the amount of money a large charity needs to generate and the amount of resources/assets you have then you need to be paying industry standard wages to recruit the best and most suitable people for the job.

There are plenty of small charities where the bosses pay themselves big bucks. Before you give to a charity, look on the charities commission and you'll find out the rough salaries of the staff. You may be shocked.

[Laurel Green]

Heads up.

[Europa1]

ecsrobin said:

woodypup59 said:

The folks at the coal face are fantastically dedicated volunteers, facing danger on every shout.

However, the Chief Exec is paid an awful lot (£188k in 2017) and has just had a thumping increase.

I'd like to know how he justifies it.

I always thought this regarding big charities. But when you consider the amount of money a large charity needs to generate and the amount of resources/assets you have then you need to be paying industry standard wages to recruit the best and most suitable people for the job.

I've never understood the viewpoint that many seem to have that people in the charity sector shouldn't be paid well, purely on the basis that their employer is a charity. Many charities are large, complicated, multi-million pound turnover operations, and I'd far rather they paid someone a market rate salary to run it.

[Cantaloupe]

It's a bit dragged out, a fair amount of tedious filler, too many interviewees telling the same story from a different viewpoint, to make up for
the meagre amount of actual real footage. it's a 30 min. show.

I take it these folk , like retained firemen, are numbered among the self-employed ?

[Europa1]

Cantaloupe said:

It's a bit dragged out, a fair amount of tedious filler, too many interviewees telling the same story from a different viewpoint, to make up for
the meagre amount of actual real footage. it's a 30 min. show.

I take it these folk , like retained firemen, are numbered among the self-employed ?

Why do you ask?

[Laurel Green]

The chap stuck in the mud was very lucky - seemed very close to his systems shutting down.

[Athlon]

Cantaloupe said:

It's a bit dragged out, a fair amount of tedious filler, too many interviewees telling the same story from a different viewpoint, to make up for
the meagre amount of actual real footage. it's a 30 min. show.

I take it these folk , like retained firemen, are numbered among the self-employed ?

What? Lifeboat crew/shore crew and fundraisiers come from all walks of life, some are fishermen, some are bankers and all in between, I am self employed which means every time I do something for the RNLI I take a personal hit but you know what? I am damn proud to be a teeny tiny bit of the RNLI so I could not care less.

[Eric Mc]

Most of them don't get paid. It's a voluntary service.

[Laurel Green]

Amy was a very lucky girl to survive that fall onto jagged rocks - nice work to all involved.

[anonymous-user]

Laurel Green said:

Amy was a very lucky girl to survive that fall onto jagged rocks - nice work to all involved.

Indeed!

[Laurel Green]

Laura

[CoolHands]

Helicopter! Nothing wrong with that bloke. Think of the expense!

Edit: confirmed released from hospital, no injuries, it smacks of boys and their toys.

Edited by CoolHands on Tuesday 17th September 20:42

[ecsrobin]

CoolHands said:

Helicopter! Nothing wrong with that bloke. Think of the expense!

Edit: confirmed released from hospital, no injuries, it smacks of boys and their toys.

Edited by CoolHands on Tuesday 17th September 20:42

As soon as a report comes in of a crash in the water the helicopter will be scrambled the same time as the lifeboat. By the time the lifeboat finds him it probably was seconds away so despite the fact he looks alright and the show says the helm made the call for a helicopter it’s probably already on scene or close by and easier to pass him onto the paramedic on the helicopter rather than the first aiders on the lifeboat.

So the cost is probably the same / not much different than if the lifeboat said no he’s ok turn the helicopter off.

[Laurel Green]

I do not know if losing that cap on that dingy was done on purpose or just an accident, either way, it was the best outcome for all involved.

[Athlon]

CoolHands said:

Helicopter! Nothing wrong with that bloke. Think of the expense!

Edit: confirmed released from hospital, no injuries, it smacks of boys and their toys.

Edited by CoolHands on Tuesday 17th September 20:42

Did they know that at the time though? Internal injury? secondary drowning? What if they just let him go and he died? Always better to be safe and the Helicopter would be tasked already anyway...