Saving lives at sea: BBC 1

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waynedear

2,176 posts

167 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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Eric Mc said:
waynedear said:
Not watched it yet, I do remember vividly my first call out, Arun class boat (the Severn was broken) severe weather, me as yet received no training and no sea history apart from paddling, Atlantic Ocean and lots of dead people and blood, I had never seen anyone dead before, life changer.
What was the incident?
Welsh registered trawler Arosa, October 2000, dirty/dangerous area, no one on board that knew what they were doing, 12 dead from 13 crew, area known locally as 'the quarry' they managed to drive straight into the rocks, rumour has it they were grounded in UK for having no skipper, one was hired, left UK, skipper dismissed in Ireland and carried on, possibly the best and worst day of my life.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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Sounded like an accident waiting to happen.

Also sounds like it would have been very traumatic to experience. I presume it didn't put you off though.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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jinkster said:
Excellent job by the RNLI. Its a real shame that such a service relies on donations.
Totally the opposite in fact. It's fantastic that it does all the work it does ENTIRELY on donations and it doesn't depend for one penny from either the British or Irish governments.

Uncle John

4,286 posts

191 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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Really enjoyed it and reinforces the awe I have for these guys and girls.

The sea scares the crap out of me, we're not meant to be there and it's nice to know these guys are there.

All volunteers as well, amazing.

waynedear

2,176 posts

167 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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Eric Mc said:
Sounded like an accident waiting to happen.

Also sounds like it would have been very traumatic to experience. I presume it didn't put you off though.
Did it heckers like, I turned into a rescue animal.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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I had to call them out when the gearbox packed in on my boat. We were not in danger we were at Anchor not far from the mooring it was about 12.30am. They came out and gave me a tow onto the mooring and I think there were 3 of them. I have donated monthly for sometime now they are so incredibly brave my call out was a piece of cake but they would not have known that initially they should at least receive some public funding

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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Eric Mc said:
jinkster said:
Excellent job by the RNLI. Its a real shame that such a service relies on donations.
Totally the opposite in fact. It's fantastic that it does all the work it does ENTIRELY on donations and it doesn't depend for one penny from either the British or Irish governments.
I think what jinkster means is it's a shame the service has to rely on donations in order to remain free of the red tape, bureaucracy and ministerial fk ups that government funding would bring with it.
Far from ideal, and hardly fantastic.

Athlon

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5,016 posts

206 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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Not one person I know who is involved wants any public funding, as it is we are non political and non religious, if you are in bother they will come and get you, what happens when you get to land is up to everyone else.

We are building new boats, we are building new stations have the very best water training college you could hope for etc, no cuts, no being used for political gain, no false promises.

From the very top down the RNLI is well run and works very well.

We are moving to an 'opt in' contact system where we will only contact you if you tell us to unlike most charities that contact you unless you say not to, this will reduce income by approx £35 million over the next five years so if you do see a collector, please drop a quid or two in the bucket! This is being done because it is the correct way forward highlighted after the tragic story of the old lady who committed suicide after being bombarded by charity letters asking for ever more donations that she could not afford.

I am collecting in Ashton upon Mersey near Sale in south Manchester on Saturday if you are local and want to have a chat or see some of the current crew kit used, grab a sticker or badge!

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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As explained above, the RNLI seems to work perfectly well without the need for state funding. Long may it continue that way.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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Eric Mc said:
As explained above, the RNLI seems to work perfectly well without the need for state funding. Long may it continue that way.
Amen. It's a natural first response to think "well the government should pay for that", but they achieve so much more with the money than a government body would.

matchmaker

8,492 posts

200 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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waynedear said:
Not watched it yet, I do remember vividly my first call out, Arun class boat (the Severn was broken) severe weather, me as yet received no training and no sea history apart from paddling, Atlantic Ocean and lots of dead people and blood, I had never seen anyone dead before, life changer.
I remember my first shout as well. Winter night, pitch black, snow squalls, severe gale force northwesterly wind, heavy seas, on a lee shore and in the Atlantic Ocean. They couldn't get the Coastguard helicopter airborne as the winds were too high to open the hanger doors.

It was in an Arun before the days of GPS and the only electronic means of navigation was a Decca Navigator. The model we had had "traffic lights" to indicate how reliable the signal (hence position) was. It didn't move off red the whole time!

We got recalled after about an hour when the casualty made it ashore safely.

Otispunkmeyer

12,593 posts

155 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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Athlon said:
Otispunkmeyer said:
Excellent

I haven't seen the ALB centre no, but I have friends in the RNLI who were voicing a few concerns is all. I have been a bit out of the loop since one of them moved to pastures new.

Just been down to Cornwall (Padstow, Harlyn etc , been in the Padstow station hidden round the corner now) and its great down there. You can really enjoy yourself knowing these guys have your back. And they have great presence too, they're not just an add-on to the communities, they are integral. If I ever move down there or even just near the sea...My names going down on the volunteer list.
Next time you are down let me know and I will put you in touch with my mate at Padstow, should get you a good luck around the boat and some behind the scenes stuff, then you will see what it is really like for them! pic is taken off 'Spirit of Padstow' last year smile
Will do. Already had a good look round, but my OH would love it. 2 Man rescue board down those stairs behind the station (bloody effort!). I was out on the bottom of the slip taking photos of the lads on the boards in the water. They paddled out and round into Padstow proper I think.

RNLI Board Tour Day 67 (8 of 14).jpg by Alex Mason, on Flickr

RNLI Board Tour Day 67 (4 of 14).jpg by Alex Mason, on Flickr

RNLI Board Tour Day 67 (6 of 14).jpg by Alex Mason, on Flickr



waynedear

2,176 posts

167 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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matchmaker said:
I remember my first shout as well. Winter night, pitch black, snow squalls, severe gale force northwesterly wind, heavy seas, on a lee shore and in the Atlantic Ocean. They couldn't get the Coastguard helicopter airborne as the winds were too high to open the hanger doors.

It was in an Arun before the days of GPS and the only electronic means of navigation was a Decca Navigator. The model we had had "traffic lights" to indicate how reliable the signal (hence position) was. It didn't move off red the whole time!

We got recalled after about an hour when the casualty made it ashore safely.
Arun might not be as fast and fancy as Severn and Trent, bloody great boats though, wish we had been recalled lol, 18 hours on day one, no water for the kettle and no fags.

Athlon

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5,016 posts

206 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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Fantastic boats the Arun's

Want a trip down the slip? then watch the link!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_iYw-uIggU

matchmaker

8,492 posts

200 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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waynedear said:
matchmaker said:
I remember my first shout as well. Winter night, pitch black, snow squalls, severe gale force northwesterly wind, heavy seas, on a lee shore and in the Atlantic Ocean. They couldn't get the Coastguard helicopter airborne as the winds were too high to open the hanger doors.

It was in an Arun before the days of GPS and the only electronic means of navigation was a Decca Navigator. The model we had had "traffic lights" to indicate how reliable the signal (hence position) was. It didn't move off red the whole time!

We got recalled after about an hour when the casualty made it ashore safely.
Arun might not be as fast and fancy as Severn and Trent, bloody great boats though, wish we had been recalled lol, 18 hours on day one, no water for the kettle and no fags.
Ours was (IMHO) the best Arun - 52-030 "Snolda". Only steel hulled one. Slower than the fibreglass ones, but a great sea boat.

Athlon

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5,016 posts

206 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Tomorrow evening is the second episode of the BBC’s four-part documentary; Saving lives at Sea with some eventful scenes featuring Eastbourne, Newquay, Torbay and Tower lifeboat stations.

?Some of these to name a few include; Blackpool Lifeboat station tending to an unconscious gentleman who is recovered from the sea, crew from Torbay last summer who go out on search for a missing swimmer and crew from Newquay who respond to a shout of a young scout who is injured whilst coasteering.

On top of all that we see Eastbourne Lifeboat station called out on rescue of a yacht without power and steerage during poor weather and in more emotional scenes we hear from Caretaker and crew member Alan Simister from Eastbourne talking about one of his tremendous rescues for which he received a framed letter of thanks for. Watch the episode to see more about this rescue.

RNLI Film and Image Manager, Eleanor Driscoll say's: 'After last week’s dramatic opening episode, tonight’s episode of Saving Lives at Sea is no less gripping, with some difficult and gritty scenes at Eastbourne in particular. There are some more light-hearted moments though, with a rare glimpse into our crew’s home lives and how they balance volunteering with their day jobs and family life. I expect our hashtag of #SavingLivesatSea on Twitter to be just as busy!'



Edited by Athlon on Tuesday 19th July 18:22

ecsrobin

17,119 posts

165 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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A superb programme and I'm looking forward to tomorrow nights episode.

It is one of the very few charities that gets my money in the buckets. As a young child I spent many holidays at Weymouth where my grandparents lived, they were friends with the boats DR (and a few other crew) and I was regularly gifted books and audio books "Herbie the hedgehog goes to sea" I was also gifted young membership by them so this year I thought I would do the same for my niece and nephew who are now a similar age to when I became a member. For £10 each I signed them up to storm force for the year http://rnli.org/shorething/joinin/otherwaystojoini... I highly recommend it.

So roll on a few months later and the day I thought would never happened, happened. No life or death situation but a bunch of smiles from the crew of the RNLI lifeboat based at Falmouth when I needed assistance. For those who are interested in what happened the RNLI launch report is quite detailed http://www.falmouthlifeboat.co.uk/shouts/all-weath...



RNLI

RNLI

The next day we got to meet the shoreside volunteers and toured both the inshore and all weather boat and made sure the team were suitably thanked.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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I give monthly as I use my boat quite a bit and its cheaper than the AA but far more reliable and quicker to come out.

Athlon

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5,016 posts

206 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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ecsrobin said:
A superb programme and I'm looking forward to tomorrow nights episode.

It is one of the very few charities that gets my money in the buckets. As a young child I spent many holidays at Weymouth where my grandparents lived, they were friends with the boats DR (and a few other crew) and I was regularly gifted books and audio books "Herbie the hedgehog goes to sea" I was also gifted young membership by them so this year I thought I would do the same for my niece and nephew who are now a similar age to when I became a member. For £10 each I signed them up to storm force for the year http://rnli.org/shorething/joinin/otherwaystojoini... I highly recommend it.

So roll on a few months later and the day I thought would never happened, happened. No life or death situation but a bunch of smiles from the crew of the RNLI lifeboat based at Falmouth when I needed assistance. For those who are interested in what happened the RNLI launch report is quite detailed http://www.falmouthlifeboat.co.uk/shouts/all-weath...


The next day we got to meet the shoreside volunteers and toured both the inshore and all weather boat and made sure the team were suitably thanked.
That looks like Dave Nicoll in the first pic, he is the area manager for the South West as well as volunteer crew and second cox of the Falmouth boat! Nice chap he is.

ecsrobin

17,119 posts

165 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Athlon said:
ecsrobin said:
A superb programme and I'm looking forward to tomorrow nights episode.

It is one of the very few charities that gets my money in the buckets. As a young child I spent many holidays at Weymouth where my grandparents lived, they were friends with the boats DR (and a few other crew) and I was regularly gifted books and audio books "Herbie the hedgehog goes to sea" I was also gifted young membership by them so this year I thought I would do the same for my niece and nephew who are now a similar age to when I became a member. For £10 each I signed them up to storm force for the year http://rnli.org/shorething/joinin/otherwaystojoini... I highly recommend it.

So roll on a few months later and the day I thought would never happened, happened. No life or death situation but a bunch of smiles from the crew of the RNLI lifeboat based at Falmouth when I needed assistance. For those who are interested in what happened the RNLI launch report is quite detailed http://www.falmouthlifeboat.co.uk/shouts/all-weath...


The next day we got to meet the shoreside volunteers and toured both the inshore and all weather boat and made sure the team were suitably thanked.
That looks like Dave Nicoll in the first pic, he is the area manager for the South West as well as volunteer crew and second cox of the Falmouth boat! Nice chap he is.
According to the crew list it was indeed him.