Dunkirk - Christopher Nolan film

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Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Hope they turned out well. It's difficult to make scale models behave like the real things. I'm a fan of Nolan's work so I'm sure he'll have done a good job.


lufbramatt

5,345 posts

134 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Nolan loves using models and in camera effects, lots of the visuals on Interstellar were done with models of the spacecraft.

I expect they will have done some sort of cgi work in the post processing though (as opposed to rendering up CGI models of the planes).

There's a great documentary on youtube about the visual effects in Mad Max: Fury Road where they famously built all the crazy vehicles in real life and did all the stunts with real people etc. But they still did tons of CGI work on backgrounds, skies, colouration to add depth and visual interest. The models are just a starting point.

Edited by lufbramatt on Wednesday 19th July 13:25

ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Boring_Chris said:
The trailers were st
Huh? LOVED the cinema trailers where you'd just get a little snippet and then it cuts. Leaves you wanting more whilst telling you very little about the actual film. Exactly how a trailer should be for a film they really don't need to 'show the best bits for it to draw a big box office.

Dick Dastardly

8,313 posts

263 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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The critic reviews this is getting are incredible. "Nolans best work yet" and "the best war film so far" are two that stick out for me. Can't wait to see it.

ctdctd

482 posts

198 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Dick Dastardly said:
The critic reviews this is getting are incredible. "Nolans best work yet" and "the best war film so far" are two that stick out for me. Can't wait to see it.
Me too - will be seeing it once the initial rush has died down.
Mind you, the last film I saw that the critics gushed about was La La Land - what a disappointment that turned out to be!

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Showing locally from tomorrow, I might have to go to a cinema for the second time in the last ten years...

Edited by Riley Blue on Thursday 20th July 20:27

AndyWoodall

2,625 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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I was quite stoked about this although slightly worried after hearing James Holland's comments on the Front Row review on R4 last night (not enough ships for example).

No advance showings by me tonight so will have to wait until the weekend.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Off to hunt down James Hollands' review now./ I' m a fan of his writing.

AndyWoodall

2,625 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Eric Mc said:
Off to hunt down James Hollands' review now./ I' m a fan of his writing.
Was on last night, so should be this one; http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08xxdlp

Mark Rylance is a treat in that interview, only short, but by god I have a lot of time for the way he does his craft.

I'm currently reading a book about those left behind after the Dunkirk evacuation, something probably not known about widely beyond survivors of the time and history enthusiasts.

Boring_Chris

2,348 posts

122 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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lufbramatt said:
Eric Mc said:
I don't think it's completely devoid of CGI. There are scenes showing Stukas dive bombing the beach and there are no airworthy Stukas.

There is nothing wrong with CGI in itself. The important thing is that the CGI is realistic.
Possibly used large scale RC models. Years ago I worked in a model shop and the guy that owned it had flown out to north Africa to fly the RC helicopters used in Black Hawk Down. They got the local army to shoot them down. May have done a similar thing here.
What a film BHD was, though. I remember not thinking much of it back in the day (possibly because we'd been spoilt by the scale of Saving Private Ryan, and 'big' war movies were in vogue) but re-watching it on Bluray (and on a massive projector, which helped!) and the scale of that production was unbelievable.

I remember saying to a mate that similar scale war movie might be a long way off. I hope Dunkirk proves me wrong!

Boring_Chris

2,348 posts

122 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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ukaskew said:
Boring_Chris said:
The trailers were st
Huh? LOVED the cinema trailers where you'd just get a little snippet and then it cuts. Leaves you wanting more whilst telling you very little about the actual film. Exactly how a trailer should be for a film they really don't need to 'show the best bits for it to draw a big box office.
Ah they just left me a bit dry... I understand and agree with where you're coming from (the off-beat cuts, just snipping the action) but I didn't really get the sense of what it was about (save the obvious)

Perhaps I just wasn't in the right mood at the time. I'm really looking forward to the film, though.

NordicCrankShaft

1,724 posts

115 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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What a movie.

Cannot remember the last time I went to the cinema, stayed awake and managed to stay into a movie from start to finish.

Quite an emotive watch too.


knight

5,207 posts

279 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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I saw it this afternoon and have to say it wasn't that impressed! I thought that in places the continuity was shocking, camera looking one way into a beautiful sunny blue sky and then the other way it was grey and miserable!

frisbee

4,979 posts

110 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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knight said:
I saw it this afternoon and have to say it wasn't that impressed! I thought that in places the continuity was shocking, camera looking one way into a beautiful sunny blue sky and then the other way it was grey and miserable!
I thought it was pretty average. He's made much better films. He was trying to be clever and do his time jumping but failed to bring any coherency to it.

The spitfires sounded nice in the IMAX though.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Saw it this lunchtime.
Some really brilliant bits, hugely let down by some truly terrible bits. Far too few little ships to look even remotely spectacular or even marginally accurate, and then at the end, the evacuated soldiers were transported away from the South Coast in what to even a non-spotter was modern (1970s) British Rail coach stock rolleyes
There were several times when I was watching thinking "Please keep being as good as that last scene, pleeeeeease"..........and it just wasn't.
Tom Hardy is far too chunky to pass for a 1940s twenty-something pilot too.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 21st July 20:00

baldy1926

2,136 posts

200 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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There are several posts on that ever reliable news site facebook about the yanks complaining about several things.
Not enough non whites,women or Americans.
There was a women selling a 1944 German helmet on ebay last week as being obtained by a American solider at Dunkirk!

baldy1926

2,136 posts

200 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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There are several posts on that ever reliable news site facebook about the yanks complaining about several things.
Not enough non whites,women or Americans.
There was a women selling a 1944 German helmet on ebay last week as being obtained by a American solider at Dunkirk!

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Oh and there was no blood.
Anywhere.
Saving Private Ryan woke everyone up to the fact war is a messy business. Dunkirk seems firmly stuck in the 70s in that respect. Lots of people getting "blown up"......not a drop of claret to be seen.

gareth h

3,549 posts

230 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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I sw it this afternoon and on the whole found it quite gripping, was a little confused that the "star" little boat headed back to Dorset, surely they all dumped their cargos back at Dover?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Seems you might have something there.
According to Wikipedia, the fleet assembled at and subsequently operated to and from Ramsgate.