James Bond Moonraker question.
Discussion
Crossflow Kid said:
Halmyre said:
he's got Sheriff bloody Pepper in the car with him, for absolutely no good or even explainable reason (even by the standards of Bond films).
US box office, plain and simple.Bumbling sheriff helps Bond. He may be bumbling but he's American
The GMan said:
The bloke doing the double take while the Lotus drives out of the sea in The Spy Who Loved Me is in Moonraker too. He is drinking in the square just before the pigeon does a double take. He is also in For Your Eyes Only. He is drinking at the bar on the ski slope that Bond ski's over a table at and the motorbikes chasing him crash through.
Yes, it became a running thing for a while. A chap in work told me there's a general rumour the bloke is author Douglas Adams, but one of the "making of" films that come on the DVD release says who it is, one of the production team but I forget who.
Halb said:
SpudLink said:
Halb said:
SpudLink said:
"A secret agent? On who's side?"
nopeski. 
[spits and looks at Eddie]
May I offer some incite into Moonraker, via this piece;
http://www.steynonline.com/7252/keeping-the-britis...
- the screenwriter also worked on those 70's staples of many a young chap's interest the 'Confessions' series. Explains a lot.
Also, as the Steyn column states, Moonraker was the highest grossing Bond film at the time and presumably a success in those terms (I hate it!).
QoS is a much under rated film. I'd happily watch it in preference toSphincter Spectre.
http://www.steynonline.com/7252/keeping-the-britis...
- the screenwriter also worked on those 70's staples of many a young chap's interest the 'Confessions' series. Explains a lot.
Also, as the Steyn column states, Moonraker was the highest grossing Bond film at the time and presumably a success in those terms (I hate it!).
QoS is a much under rated film. I'd happily watch it in preference to
Personally I'd rather watch the utter cheese of Rog-era Bond than the pseudo-serious yet tissue-thin nonsense of Craig. Yeah, it might be oh-so-gritty and "real on the surface, but leave out the Bond megabucks and heritage and they're actually pretty poor films in many ways.... mostly because they make some claim towards reality.
Casino Royale? Talk about too many endings, like just pick one and stick with it. Quantum of Solace? So when will supervillains work out that making their amazingly secret lair out of the most idsagreeably explosive material known to man is possibly considered a design flaw. Skyfall? Yeah, when backed by all the resources of one of the planet's premier military intelligence departments, why not flee to the most remote place in the British Isles to take on one lone nut and his dubious henchmen (who also don't seem to understand the difference between "full auto" and accuracy... and as for the bumbling old faithful family retainer who's done nothing more demanding than tend the house and dress a few coneys for the past thirty years suddenly has a profound epiphany and thinks nothing of turning into an A-Team style bad motherf
ker and murdering many people with inventive boobytraps? Spectre? Just utter, complete rubbish, so bad I almost can't even remember the "plot"... although I do remember being slightly surprised that the head of the most evil and efficient global terrorism organisation would be motivated to create his works of horror purely because he nurtures a sense of profound resentment at a young orphaned Bond getting all his candy at Christmas. Mmmm, sounds eminently plausible.
The earlier Bonds were cheesy and kitsch and that was their strength. At least they didn't dress up the gaping holes in plausibility as soemthing they weren't. Funny how Dalton got slated for doing exactly what Craig is lauded for... turning Bond into a gritty, real, tortured character. The onyl difference is that he managed to do it using more than one facial expression, unlike Craig. And as for Octopussy being rubbish... well, crocodile one-man sub? Come on, it doesn't get better than that! And that Alfa, for that matter, poor thing. And yeah, the river jump might have had a preposterous slide whistle but don't let that distract you from the fact some stuntman is actually 360-degree jumping an AMC Hornet, of all things! Awesomes
P.S. I didn't remember braces on Dolly, but I emphatically remembered boobs!
Casino Royale? Talk about too many endings, like just pick one and stick with it. Quantum of Solace? So when will supervillains work out that making their amazingly secret lair out of the most idsagreeably explosive material known to man is possibly considered a design flaw. Skyfall? Yeah, when backed by all the resources of one of the planet's premier military intelligence departments, why not flee to the most remote place in the British Isles to take on one lone nut and his dubious henchmen (who also don't seem to understand the difference between "full auto" and accuracy... and as for the bumbling old faithful family retainer who's done nothing more demanding than tend the house and dress a few coneys for the past thirty years suddenly has a profound epiphany and thinks nothing of turning into an A-Team style bad motherf
ker and murdering many people with inventive boobytraps? Spectre? Just utter, complete rubbish, so bad I almost can't even remember the "plot"... although I do remember being slightly surprised that the head of the most evil and efficient global terrorism organisation would be motivated to create his works of horror purely because he nurtures a sense of profound resentment at a young orphaned Bond getting all his candy at Christmas. Mmmm, sounds eminently plausible.The earlier Bonds were cheesy and kitsch and that was their strength. At least they didn't dress up the gaping holes in plausibility as soemthing they weren't. Funny how Dalton got slated for doing exactly what Craig is lauded for... turning Bond into a gritty, real, tortured character. The onyl difference is that he managed to do it using more than one facial expression, unlike Craig. And as for Octopussy being rubbish... well, crocodile one-man sub? Come on, it doesn't get better than that! And that Alfa, for that matter, poor thing. And yeah, the river jump might have had a preposterous slide whistle but don't let that distract you from the fact some stuntman is actually 360-degree jumping an AMC Hornet, of all things! Awesomes
P.S. I didn't remember braces on Dolly, but I emphatically remembered boobs!
FourWheelDrift said:
el stovey said:
Sheriff J.W. Pepper: By the powers INvested IN ME by *this parish*, I hereby do commandeer this veerhickle and all those persons within!
[spits and looks at Eddie]
slight edit needed for vehicle. [spits and looks at Eddie]
And that means you smartarse!
Perfectly delivered in withering tones.
Earlier in the the thread someone described Octopusy as 'Carry on Bond', which is probably fair, but I'd like to defend it.
For one thing, Steven Berkoff's OTT performance as the Soviet General was exactly right.
It also benefits from casting Maud Adams, who was one of the few Moore era Bond girls who was credible in the role she played.
But mostly it has a very effective bomb disposal scene. I can remember an audible sigh of relief from the cinema audience when he stops the nuke from exploding. Obviously it was never going to blow up, and the scene has Bond dressed as a circus clown. But it manages to get the pacing of the preceding 10 minutes or so of the film just right, so the audience is caught up in the suspension of disbelief. Maybe it's lost it's effect with a thousand Sunday afternoon viewings in front of the telly, but it certainty worked first time round in the cinema.
For one thing, Steven Berkoff's OTT performance as the Soviet General was exactly right.
It also benefits from casting Maud Adams, who was one of the few Moore era Bond girls who was credible in the role she played.
But mostly it has a very effective bomb disposal scene. I can remember an audible sigh of relief from the cinema audience when he stops the nuke from exploding. Obviously it was never going to blow up, and the scene has Bond dressed as a circus clown. But it manages to get the pacing of the preceding 10 minutes or so of the film just right, so the audience is caught up in the suspension of disbelief. Maybe it's lost it's effect with a thousand Sunday afternoon viewings in front of the telly, but it certainty worked first time round in the cinema.
Although MR and AVTAK were interestingly bad movies, they do contain my two favourite bond villains and have some of the best bond villain lines.
Drax: "Mr. Bond, you defy all my attempts to plan an amusing death for you."
Drax: "Look after Mr. Bond. See that some harm comes to him."
Drax: "Allow me to introduce you to the airlock chamber. Observe, Mr Bond, your route from this world to the next. And you, Dr Goodhead, your desire to become America's first woman in space will shortly be fulfilled."
Drax: "At least I shall have the pleasure of putting you out of my misery."
Zorin: "Haha! You amuse me, Mr Bond!"
Bond: "It's not mutual."
Zorin: "So, anyone else want to drop out?"
Zorin: "This will hurt him more than me."
Bond: "Killing Tibbett was a mistake."
Zorin: "Then I'm about to make that same mistake twice."
Drax: "Mr. Bond, you defy all my attempts to plan an amusing death for you."
Drax: "Look after Mr. Bond. See that some harm comes to him."
Drax: "Allow me to introduce you to the airlock chamber. Observe, Mr Bond, your route from this world to the next. And you, Dr Goodhead, your desire to become America's first woman in space will shortly be fulfilled."
Drax: "At least I shall have the pleasure of putting you out of my misery."
Zorin: "Haha! You amuse me, Mr Bond!"
Bond: "It's not mutual."
Zorin: "So, anyone else want to drop out?"
Zorin: "This will hurt him more than me."
Bond: "Killing Tibbett was a mistake."
Zorin: "Then I'm about to make that same mistake twice."
Rawwr said:
Although MR and AVTAK were interestingly bad movies, they do contain my two favourite bond villains and have some of the best bond villain lines.
Drax: "Mr. Bond, you defy all my attempts to plan an amusing death for you."
Drax: "Look after Mr. Bond. See that some harm comes to him."
Drax: "Allow me to introduce you to the airlock chamber. Observe, Mr Bond, your route from this world to the next. And you, Dr Goodhead, your desire to become America's first woman in space will shortly be fulfilled."
Drax: "At least I shall have the pleasure of putting you out of my misery."
Zorin: "Haha! You amuse me, Mr Bond!"
Bond: "It's not mutual."
Zorin: "So, anyone else want to drop out?"
Zorin: "This will hurt him more than me."
Bond: "Killing Tibbett was a mistake."
Zorin: "Then I'm about to make that same mistake twice."
And not forgetting, Drax: "You have arrived at a propitious moment, coincident with your country's one indisputable contribution to Western Civilization: Afternoon tea. May I press you to a cucumber sandwich?" Drax: "Mr. Bond, you defy all my attempts to plan an amusing death for you."
Drax: "Look after Mr. Bond. See that some harm comes to him."
Drax: "Allow me to introduce you to the airlock chamber. Observe, Mr Bond, your route from this world to the next. And you, Dr Goodhead, your desire to become America's first woman in space will shortly be fulfilled."
Drax: "At least I shall have the pleasure of putting you out of my misery."
Zorin: "Haha! You amuse me, Mr Bond!"
Bond: "It's not mutual."
Zorin: "So, anyone else want to drop out?"
Zorin: "This will hurt him more than me."
Bond: "Killing Tibbett was a mistake."
Zorin: "Then I'm about to make that same mistake twice."
Halb said:
FourWheelDrift said:
el stovey said:
Sheriff J.W. Pepper: By the powers INvested IN ME by *this parish*, I hereby do commandeer this veerhickle and all those persons within!
[spits and looks at Eddie]
slight edit needed for vehicle. [spits and looks at Eddie]
And that means you smartarse!
Perfectly delivered in withering tones.
What the Fu....
Edited by littlebasher on Thursday 22 September 14:54
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