The James Bond Thread

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ch37

10,642 posts

222 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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Odeon and Vue will surely follow, possibly mothballing their multiplexes for 6 months+ would be cheaper than keeping them open and staffed yet only selling £30 of tickets a day or whatever.

All the studios delaying their films to wait it out for better days may not have theatres to put them in at this this rate.

colin79666

1,826 posts

114 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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ch37 said:
Odeon and Vue will surely follow, possibly mothballing their multiplexes for 6 months+ would be cheaper than keeping them open and staffed yet only selling £30 of tickets a day or whatever.

All the studios delaying their films to wait it out for better days may not have theatres to put them in at this this rate.
AMC (owners of Odeon) will run out of cash in less than 6 months.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/amc-enterta...

bristolracer

5,542 posts

150 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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ch37 said:
All the studios delaying their films to wait it out for better days may not have theatres to put them in at this this rate.
Why bother making a film when theres no cinemas?
Doubt if Netflix will stump up the box office shortfall


Clockwork Cupcake

74,602 posts

273 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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bristolracer said:
Why bother making a film when theres no cinemas?
What an odd thing to say. Do you only watch films in a cinema then?

bristolracer

5,542 posts

150 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
bristolracer said:
Why bother making a film when theres no cinemas?
What an odd thing to say. Do you only watch films in a cinema then?
No but big blockbusters generally go
Cinema
Streaming
DVD
TV
Yes many films are straight to netflix these days but the big expensive blockbusters are launched and paid for via the cinema.
Would Bond become a straight to Netflix film with its budget? Would the Misson impossible franchise bypass the cinema?
Do you think the owners of the Bond franchise want to dilute it to a 'straight to video' film ?
What I'm saying is that if the cinemas close or remain shut then the big films are far less likely to be produced until the cinemas are functioning again.
Less big films, less jobs,studios closing.....

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

84 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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Shame about the delay and then the shuttering of the cinemas but was inevitable.
It makes sense to hold back all the big blockbusters from view and not release them to the home viewing market.
This will make for a pent up demand when the theaters re-open. And it will seem like an event.
The overcomplicated stuff like tenant should go to TV so people can rewatch till they get it lol.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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bristolracer said:

Do you think the owners of the Bond franchise want to dilute it to a 'straight to video' film ?
No, but there comes a point where they’ll have to admit defeat and just release it via whatever platforms work at the time.
Given that it’s taken 6-8months for hospitality and entertainment venues to even think about reopening, I’m sticking my neck out and saying even rescheduling to November next year could be a gamble.
If EON are optimistically holding out for even half the kind of footfall Skyfall got, they’re in for a very long wait.
And all the time we’re waiting, the franchise is devaluing and the film itself is ageing.
How long until JLR start getting annoyed over the screen debut of the new Defender being put back time and again?
Where does Billy Eilish stand now her song simply won’t be as successful?
Then there’s the knock-on effect on production of Bond 26, especially as that includes revealing a new actor.
The fallout from all this is going to affect Bond for many years.

SpudLink

5,855 posts

193 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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Fundoreen said:
Shame about the delay and then the shuttering of the cinemas but was inevitable.
It makes sense to hold back all the big blockbusters from view and not release them to the home viewing market.
This will make for a pent up demand when the theaters re-open. And it will seem like an event.
The overcomplicated stuff like tenant should go to TV so people can rewatch till they get it lol.
I think Tenet might have worked better as an HBO type series. Westworld is an example of how you can use a very big budget to make an entertaining and cerebral TV show.

However I don’t think the Bond franchise would work without the big ‘event’ of a cinematic release.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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SpudLink said:
However I don’t think the Bond franchise would work without the big ‘event’ of a cinematic release.
True. It is, after all, THE movie franchise and there are so many tie-ins on all levels that, until now at least, it has to have a traditional red carpet Royal premiere.

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

117 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
bristolracer said:
Why bother making a film when theres no cinemas?
What an odd thing to say. Do you only watch films in a cinema then?
Yes. Most films are made well ahead of a predicted release date. Anything up to two years. Most TV channels are showing new drama series that were produced early to mid 2019 - or earlier.

anonymoususer

5,843 posts

49 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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Could it be retitled Not sure what time to die

Clockwork Cupcake

74,602 posts

273 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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anonymoususer said:
Could it be retitled Not sure what time to die
hehe

Clockwork Cupcake

74,602 posts

273 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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Or "Never the right time to die"

Actually, that would have been a good title anyway.

Muzzer79

10,044 posts

188 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
bristolracer said:

Do you think the owners of the Bond franchise want to dilute it to a 'straight to video' film ?
No, but there comes a point where they’ll have to admit defeat and just release it via whatever platforms work at the time.
Given that it’s taken 6-8months for hospitality and entertainment venues to even think about reopening, I’m sticking my neck out and saying even rescheduling to November next year could be a gamble.
If EON are optimistically holding out for even half the kind of footfall Skyfall got, they’re in for a very long wait.
And all the time we’re waiting, the franchise is devaluing and the film itself is ageing.
How long until JLR start getting annoyed over the screen debut of the new Defender being put back time and again?
Where does Billy Eilish stand now her song simply won’t be as successful?
Then there’s the knock-on effect on production of Bond 26, especially as that includes revealing a new actor.
The fallout from all this is going to affect Bond for many years.
I think you're being a little over-dramatic.

The film has been delayed, like all films.

EON are waiting until people can feasibly see the film in some numbers. I doubt they're expecting Skyfall-levels of footfall but it has to be reasonable.
At the moment, cinemas are fairly off-limits. Who knows when that will change.

I would think that the new Defender and Billie Eilish are reasonably inconsequential at present and Bond 26 can just be pushed back.

It's a hell of a lot of money to just "admit defeat" and release the film. The budget for NTTD is a quarter of a billion dollars....


anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Muzzer79 said:
The film has been delayed, like all films.
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The budget for NTTD is a quarter of a billion dollars....
It’s not “like all films” though is it?
It’s the most recognised and successful franchise in cinema.
Being part of a series, any delays will have an inevitable knock-on effect more so than on other stand-alone films as they won’t age and don’t need to fit in to any kind of sequence.
You can guarantee Bond 26 was already forming on paper so now that too will be up in the air.
As for sponsors and product placement, they will have paid big money to get a piece of 007 pie. And all for nothing so far

Muzzer79

10,044 posts

188 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
Muzzer79 said:
The film has been delayed, like all films.
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The budget for NTTD is a quarter of a billion dollars....
It’s not “like all films” though is it?
It’s the most recognised and successful franchise in cinema.
Being part of a series, any delays will have an inevitable knock-on effect more so than on other stand-alone films as they won’t age and don’t need to fit in to any kind of sequence.
You can guarantee Bond 26 was already forming on paper so now that too will be up in the air.
As for sponsors and product placement, they will have paid big money to get a piece of 007 pie. And all for nothing so far
Indeed. All the more reason not to chuck it out when nobody can watch it properly.

I wouldn't worry too much about it aging. We're talking about a delay of a year or so, not multiple years.

Bond 26 will simply be pushed back. It happens all the time. It might mean that (x) actor that they had pencilled in won't be available but, again, that happens and that someone is replaced.

Sponsors - agree, they want their slice. They'll be right behind delaying it until more people can watch. Better a delayed film with maximum exposure than a dribbled out cinema release.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Don’t forget the business in show business.
Investors/sponsors will be wanting a return.
Soon.

cuprabob

14,673 posts

215 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
Don’t forget the business in show business.
Investors/sponsors will be wanting a return.
Soon.
There is no business like show business smile

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

84 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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The public should be glad all those nutty marvel and star wars films were wrapped up. At least the bond films are stand alone.
You could watch them in any order and it just doesnt matter.

SpudLink

5,855 posts

193 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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Fundoreen said:
The public should be glad all those nutty marvel and star wars films were wrapped up. At least the bond films are stand alone.
You could watch them in any order and it just doesnt matter.
I can accept the postponement of NTTD as the inevitable consequence of the pandemic. However, if it had been Avengers End Game facing endless delays, I would be posting on the “COVID cure worse than the disease” thread.