The James Bond Thread
Discussion
The Hypno-Toad said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
I think we need a groundswell re-evaluation of the streaming landscape.
It's so fragmented at the moment. I have a basic Sky HD (not Q) subscription, Amazon Prime, and Netflix, and I feel like I am at the absolute limit of my financial commitment. I can't go Disney+ and Discovery+, and Hulu, and f
k knows what else on a subscription basis.
I think we need a Blockbuster Video model for renting new films equivalent to cinema pricing models where you do not need a subscription.
Of course, the big problem for me as a single person living alone, is that if is impossible for this model to differentiate between me and a party of 20 people.
I am in the same boat to be honest. I have Amazon Prime which is fine but staying on thread I will probably go where No Sure What Time To Die is released.It's so fragmented at the moment. I have a basic Sky HD (not Q) subscription, Amazon Prime, and Netflix, and I feel like I am at the absolute limit of my financial commitment. I can't go Disney+ and Discovery+, and Hulu, and f
k knows what else on a subscription basis.I think we need a Blockbuster Video model for renting new films equivalent to cinema pricing models where you do not need a subscription.
Of course, the big problem for me as a single person living alone, is that if is impossible for this model to differentiate between me and a party of 20 people.
(secretly hoping it's Disney+ because everyone keeps raving about how great The Mandalorian is.)
The Hypno-Toad said:
let down by the terrible "Bond disguised as a Japanese fisherman" cover story.
Hours in surgery worked on by nurses in bikini's to come out with a couple of fake eye lids an even dodgier hair piece and still being a clear foot taller than all the other Japanese fishermen. Classhic.FourWheelDrift said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
let down by the terrible "Bond disguised as a Japanese fisherman" cover story.
Hours in surgery worked on by nurses in bikinis to come out with a couple of fake eye lids an even dodgier hair piece and still being a clear foot taller than all the other Japanese fishermen. Classic.Clockwork Cupcake said:
I think we need a groundswell re-evaluation of the streaming landscape.
It's so fragmented at the moment. I have a basic Sky HD (not Q) subscription, Amazon Prime, and Netflix, and I feel like I am at the absolute limit of my financial commitment. I can't go Disney+ and Discovery+, and Hulu, and fk knows what else on a subscription basis.
I think we need a Blockbuster Video model for renting new films equivalent to cinema pricing models where you do not need a subscription.
Of course, the big problem for me as a single person living alone, is that if is impossible for this model to differentiate between me and a party of 20 people.
I thought that more and more people were taking each streaming subscription for a couple of months, watch everything and then rotate.. It's so fragmented at the moment. I have a basic Sky HD (not Q) subscription, Amazon Prime, and Netflix, and I feel like I am at the absolute limit of my financial commitment. I can't go Disney+ and Discovery+, and Hulu, and f
k knows what else on a subscription basis.I think we need a Blockbuster Video model for renting new films equivalent to cinema pricing models where you do not need a subscription.
Of course, the big problem for me as a single person living alone, is that if is impossible for this model to differentiate between me and a party of 20 people.
No Time To Die release date has been pushed back (again) to 8th October of this year.
https://www.indiewire.com/2021/01/no-time-to-die-j...
https://www.indiewire.com/2021/01/no-time-to-die-j...
Cold said:
No Time To Die release date has been pushed back (again) to 8th October of this year.
https://www.indiewire.com/2021/01/no-time-to-die-j...
Really?? https://www.indiewire.com/2021/01/no-time-to-die-j...
I think they are bigger than their boots. Despite being a Bond girl (no, not in that sense sadly) who has seen every* film at the cinema since sat on my dad's lap for The Spy Who Loved Me (hey, I am old) in 1977, I literally don't give a s
t about the new film.Just feels like they have ideas above their station here. It is just a tired formula action film.
(* - not Spectre)
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Cold said:
No Time To Die release date has been pushed back (again) to 8th October of this year.
https://www.indiewire.com/2021/01/no-time-to-die-j...
Really?? https://www.indiewire.com/2021/01/no-time-to-die-j...
I think they are bigger than their boots. Despite being a Bond girl (no, not in that sense sadly) who has seen every* film at the cinema since sat on my dad's lap for The Spy Who Loved Me (hey, I am old) in 1977, I literally don't give a s
t about the new film.Just feels like they have ideas above their station here. It is just a tired formula action film.
(* - not Spectre)
1.) The ridiculous obsession with his past. We don't care if Bond has parent issues, we just want to see him killing bad guys, seducing women and cracking crap jokes whilst leaping around insane sets and driving incredible cars. Does Ethan Hunt moan that his step-dad didn't love him enough? Does John Mclean b
h about his mummy not baking Thanksgiving cookies with him? 2.) Its far too pompous. The franchise seems to think that they are the only ones who can do this kind of film and I would suggest that not only Tom Cruise might have something to say about that but even the creators of the John Wick franchise might want to have a word too.
3.) Its scared of its own history but at the same time they try to shoe horn references to previous Bonds and films into the Craig canon, which means at some points the total time line makes no sense at all.
4.) Craig 007 went from being fresh blood to being old and bitter in 3 films. b
hing and whining about his job all the time, how technology is making him redundant. How does that help?5.) Has there been a Craig 007 film where he hasn't gone rogue? I know Bond did a couple of times in the past but every single film? In one film why can't he just obey orders, find out what's going on, battle a few bad guys, seduce a few woman and then blow everything up at the end? Or is it just a way of covering up Craigs dis-satisfaction with the role by making him act grumpy all the time?
6.) Speaking of Craig, despite the fact it has made him unbelievably rich, I don't think he has enjoyed playing Bond at all. Moore & Brosnan clearly adored being Bond and it shone through in the films. (ok maybe not View To A Kill or Die Another Day.
). Craig just looks like he is going through the motions & has done since Casino Royale.7.) There has been product placement in Bond since the year dot but 007 drinking Heineken? f
k Right Off.Bond needs a complete re-set from the ground up. When Craig finally pisses off, the current script writers need to go with him because Bond needs people who understand what made it great and what can hopefully make it great again. Basically they need to Mandalorian it.
And The Spy Who Loved Me is by far the best Bond movie as any fule kno
. I can confirm that as with furlough and my birthday coinciding, I watched TSWLM on Blu-Ray last week and it is simply brilliant. As it was my first Bond too, I can still remember people in the cinema applauding the ski stunt! Funnily enough the only recent action film to come close to generating a similar reaction in an audience I was with was the Ghost Protocol Burj Khalifa scene when the camera scans out of the window and you see just how high off the ground they are. The entire cinema gasped. The Bond franchise needs to find something as memorable as that and quick but I am not sure "What Time Did We Say Was The Right Time To Die Again Was? September?" is going to be that film.
Great post H-T. Agree with pretty much all of that.
I don’t have much affection for the Mission Impossible franchise. I enjoy watching them, but I forget them as soon as they are over. The best Bond films are fun to watch and stay in the mind. They need to rediscover the secret ingredient.
If NTTD ever makes it to the cinema I will watch it, but i can’t say I’m excited. It’s just habit and residual loyalty.
I don’t have much affection for the Mission Impossible franchise. I enjoy watching them, but I forget them as soon as they are over. The best Bond films are fun to watch and stay in the mind. They need to rediscover the secret ingredient.
If NTTD ever makes it to the cinema I will watch it, but i can’t say I’m excited. It’s just habit and residual loyalty.
The Hypno-Toad said:
because Bond needs people who understand what made it great and what can hopefully make it great again.
Naked girls swimming in silhouetteBond flirts with Moneypenny
Bond gets new toy from Q, a watch that fires a cruise missile, and a new Aston which will be horribly written off
Bond flirts with bad guys Mrs
Bond gets hit on head, wakes up tied up
Bad guy tells him entire plot
Bad guy tries killing him with a laser guided crocodile, rather than just shooting him in the head
Bond escapes
Bond blows up the massive space volcano that bad guy built with nobody noticing
Bond kills bad guy with a kitchen blender
Bond shags bad guys Mrs who was a goodie all the time
All this without a single mark on his dinner jacket.
bristolracer said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
because Bond needs people who understand what made it great and what can hopefully make it great again.
Naked girls swimming in silhouetteBond flirts with Moneypenny
Bond gets new toy from Q, a watch that fires a cruise missile, and a new Aston which will be horribly written off
Bond flirts with bad guys Mrs
Bond gets hit on head, wakes up tied up
Bad guy tells him entire plot
Bad guy tries killing him with a laser guided crocodile, rather than just shooting him in the head
Bond escapes
Bond blows up the massive space volcano that bad guy built with nobody noticing
Bond kills bad guy with a kitchen blender
Bond shags bad guys Mrs who was a goodie all the time
All this without a single mark on his dinner jacket.
ReformedPistonhead said:
That was the winning formula when I was young. Maybe it doesn't work for today's generation....
They said it themselves in one of their trailers for a 60s Bond. “All men want to be him!”
“All women want to be with him!”
Now if you can find a way to translate that into a hero that today’s generations can relate to then you’ve got the answer.
The Heineken thing is the perfect example. I can go to the fridge now and drink one of those. A properly made Vodka Martini, I can’t.
Bond needs to be aspirational again, in all senses of the word.
The Hypno-Toad said:
ReformedPistonhead said:
That was the winning formula when I was young. Maybe it doesn't work for today's generation....
They said it themselves in one of their trailers for a 60s Bond. “All men want to be him!”
“All women want to be with him!”
Now if you can find a way to translate that into a hero that today’s generations can relate to then you’ve got the answer.
The Heineken thing is the perfect example. I can go to the fridge now and drink one of those. A properly made Vodka Martini, I can’t.
Bond needs to be aspirational again, in all senses of the word.
2. Buy Vodka
3. Put glass in freezer with Vodka
4. Wait 30 minutes
5. Remove glass
6. Cut some lemon rind and rub around the edge of the glass
7. Pour a small amount of Martini into the glass
8. Throw it away
9. Remove Vodka from freezer
10. Fill glass to brim with Vodka
11. Voila
That was the process used by the white gloved bartender in Dukes in London who served me one 2 years ago when these things were possible.
I drank it but sadly have not much recollection of the rest of the evening.
<Public notice the author does not condone drinking, see government information for safe limits>
The Hypno-Toad said:
2.) Its far too pompous. The franchise seems to think that they are the only ones who can do this kind of film and I would suggest that not only Tom Cruise might have something to say about that but even the creators of the John Wick franchise might want to have a word too.
Agree with all your points and would add to this one that Jason Bourne was specifically created to show that Fleming wasn't the only person who could write Bond books, and then Tony Gilroy showed that Broccoli wasn't the only person who could make a contemporary Bond film, and in neither case does the mainstream franchise seem to have learned the lesson.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff