Conviction: Murder at the Station
Discussion
Well that was a waste of time, the first half seemed quite interesting but the 2nd hour produced nothing much new either way other than the convicted man was a bit shifty and unconvincing, that they spent 10 minutes on the wheel moving when the car was picked up by the tow truck just made them look stupid and devoid of material to fill the programme.
Watched the second (and final) episode last night. I'm still not sure what went on, there certainly seem to be big holes in the Police evidence and the fact that it seems a lot of the evidence has now been destroyed seems pretty scandalous to me.
As last week though, Kearney just doesn't come across well, there's no passion or emotion in his voice when he says he didn't do it, almost hesitancy.
I'm 'guessing' he was heavily involved in it and knows far more about it than he says, however I don't believe it happened in the way the Police have stated and therefore his conviction was based on a totally wrong version of events. I'm thinking this is whats giving him the hope that he may possibly be given a retrial, although that's highly doubtful now.
No idea what those texts were about, I think though Paula did appear to have some slightly odd 'friends' and maybe almost another life that not many knew about.
Swanwick is my local train station and I find it very doubtful her car could have been sat there for 11 days given she was reported missing, it's a busy road leading down to the station.
As last week though, Kearney just doesn't come across well, there's no passion or emotion in his voice when he says he didn't do it, almost hesitancy.
I'm 'guessing' he was heavily involved in it and knows far more about it than he says, however I don't believe it happened in the way the Police have stated and therefore his conviction was based on a totally wrong version of events. I'm thinking this is whats giving him the hope that he may possibly be given a retrial, although that's highly doubtful now.
No idea what those texts were about, I think though Paula did appear to have some slightly odd 'friends' and maybe almost another life that not many knew about.
Swanwick is my local train station and I find it very doubtful her car could have been sat there for 11 days given she was reported missing, it's a busy road leading down to the station.
I found both episodes very interesting, quit gripping in places, kept me watching from start to finish, which is unusual for me.
I think the whole idea was to make you think, make your own decision rather than giving you an outcome. For me he is guilty, but as said above, I don't think it happened the way the police said.
Maybe we'll find out, if it ever goes for re-trial.
Hopefully there will be more of this. I liked the investigator women, not sure if she gets any payment for her time, as it's a charity. I'd like her on my side if I ever needed someone.
I think the whole idea was to make you think, make your own decision rather than giving you an outcome. For me he is guilty, but as said above, I don't think it happened the way the police said.
Maybe we'll find out, if it ever goes for re-trial.
Hopefully there will be more of this. I liked the investigator women, not sure if she gets any payment for her time, as it's a charity. I'd like her on my side if I ever needed someone.
megaphone said:
I found both episodes very interesting, quit gripping in places, kept me watching from start to finish, which is unusual for me.
I think the whole idea was to make you think, make your own decision rather than giving you an outcome. For me he is guilty, but as said above, I don't think it happened the way the police said.
Maybe we'll find out, if it ever goes for re-trial.
Hopefully there will be more of this. I liked the investigator women, not sure if she gets any payment for her time, as it's a charity. I'd like her on my side if I ever needed someone.
I wondered about the pay as well, I get the impression it's a sort of side-line albeit a side-line that takes up an incredible amount of time. I think the same is true about her 'team' of others, probably in it as it's not only very interesting but also potentially very satisfying should they overturn a conviction.I think the whole idea was to make you think, make your own decision rather than giving you an outcome. For me he is guilty, but as said above, I don't think it happened the way the police said.
Maybe we'll find out, if it ever goes for re-trial.
Hopefully there will be more of this. I liked the investigator women, not sure if she gets any payment for her time, as it's a charity. I'd like her on my side if I ever needed someone.
I would guess they insisted on their expenses being paid from some 'pot' though at the very least but give up their time for little or no recompense.
megaphone said:
I found both episodes very interesting, quit gripping in places, kept me watching from start to finish, which is unusual for me.
I think the whole idea was to make you think, make your own decision rather than giving you an outcome. For me he is guilty, but as said above, I don't think it happened the way the police said.
Maybe we'll find out, if it ever goes for re-trial.
Hopefully there will be more of this. I liked the investigator women, not sure if she gets any payment for her time, as it's a charity. I'd like her on my side if I ever needed someone.
For it was all just speculation though - "he said X, but wouldn't you say Y if you hadn't killed her?" type rubbish. You can't draw conclusions about others based purely on how you think you would act in the same extreme and hypothetical situation. The reality is you have no idea what you'd say and how you'd act until you're in that situation and even then lots of people will act very differently because funnily enough we're all different.I think the whole idea was to make you think, make your own decision rather than giving you an outcome. For me he is guilty, but as said above, I don't think it happened the way the police said.
Maybe we'll find out, if it ever goes for re-trial.
Hopefully there will be more of this. I liked the investigator women, not sure if she gets any payment for her time, as it's a charity. I'd like her on my side if I ever needed someone.
The garbage about the wheels turning disproving the witness evidence and forensic report was also ridiculous - her "investigation" wasn't even remotely scientific and based on a complete lack of basic knowledge of the mechanics of how hand brakes work or how locked wheels behave on different surfaces.
I came away from it thinking I'd wasted two hours of my life.
youngsyr said:
The garbage about the wheels turning disproving the witness evidence and forensic report was also ridiculous - her "investigation" wasn't even remotely scientific and based on a complete lack of basic knowledge of the mechanics of how hand brakes work or how locked wheels behave on different surfaces.
QuiteI was embarrassed watching the nonsense about the hand brakes.
Dr Murdoch said:
Couple of things I don't get.
The other 'other' fella, could it not be possible to trace via phone records?
Similarly with the txt messages to the woman leading the case (as it were)?
Well, purely going by the fact that they didn't pursue them in the programme, I suspect the phones used were cheap pay as you go phones, bought with cash, that weren't registered to anyone and were possibly discarded after use.The other 'other' fella, could it not be possible to trace via phone records?
Similarly with the txt messages to the woman leading the case (as it were)?
youngsyr said:
Well, purely going by the fact that they didn't pursue them in the programme, I suspect the phones used were cheap pay as you go phones, bought with cash, that weren't registered to anyone and were possibly discarded after use.
Quite possiblyWould of been nice if the programme had explained this, if it were the case.
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