Can't Pay? We'll Take it away

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P-Jay

10,565 posts

191 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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As above repossessions and seizing goods is usually the last thing you want to do - it's worthless, sometimes things like IT equipment become a liability. It's a ploy, when I worked in finance, we never wanted the goods, back, even vehicles.

Personally, I've gone off the programme, it used to be a lot more about dodgy scam artists getting the comeuppance, now they're more likely to show some down on their lucky family being turfed out into the street or someone having their van seized because they got into business with a customer of theirs who was never going to pay them. As for the poor saps who get suckered into a "no win, no fee" deal, and then get landed with a massive bill when they see the light and pull out, only to have their solicitor turn on them, bloody hell, I don’t want to be the person who enjoys watching that.

Yeah “Mr. McKraken” always does his little “it’s so sad, but tough luck” bit to the camera after he’s taken the last penny from someone through intimidation and threat, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I used to like it, now it feels more laughing at others misfortunes.

Lensey

2,526 posts

283 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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P-Jay said:
As above repossessions and seizing goods is usually the last thing you want to do - it's worthless, sometimes things like IT equipment become a liability. It's a ploy, when I worked in finance, we never wanted the goods, back, even vehicles.

Personally, I've gone off the programme, it used to be a lot more about dodgy scam artists getting the comeuppance, now they're more likely to show some down on their lucky family being turfed out into the street or someone having their van seized because they got into business with a customer of theirs who was never going to pay them. As for the poor saps who get suckered into a "no win, no fee" deal, and then get landed with a massive bill when they see the light and pull out, only to have their solicitor turn on them, bloody hell, I don’t want to be the person who enjoys watching that.

Yeah “Mr. McKraken” always does his little “it’s so sad, but tough luck” bit to the camera after he’s taken the last penny from someone through intimidation and threat, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I used to like it, now it feels more laughing at others misfortunes.
Yer, totally agree, I record it and fast forward through the evictions, find it too hard to watch especially when kids are involved.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,370 posts

150 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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Anyone notice the frequency of large letters on the walls of many of the houses they enter, spelling out LOVE, LAUGHTER, FAMILY, etc.

"Debtor chic" we call it.

Sheets Tabuer

18,961 posts

215 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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I think I'd rather starve than be a bailiff.

XCP

16,914 posts

228 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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It's only a job.

Trax

1,537 posts

232 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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P-Jay said:
Yeah “Mr. McKraken” always does his little “it’s so sad, but tough luck” bit to the camera after he’s taken the last penny from someone through intimidation and threat, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I used to like it, now it feels more laughing at others misfortunes.
Agree, he is definitely the least likable. Pretty much bullying, threatening, and very questionable bordering on illegal tactics. They are there to collect a debt, not threaten relatives of the debtor with stealing (in my eyes anyway) goods that don't belong to the debtor, or coercing friends/relatives to pay debt on their behalf when they know there is nothing to take from the debtor.

That's what the back street loan sharks were put out of business and replaced with regulated bailiffs to prevent.......

When it's some lowlife that's getting their comeuppance, it's good viewing, but these latest shows are making me think these high court encorcememt offices have too much power, or think they do.

What I also don't like, is the police basically act as their agents when they arrive, and ignore when they abuse their powers.

andymc

7,356 posts

207 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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it would be interesting if they came upon a man mountain who didn't give a fk

theguvernor15

945 posts

103 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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I totally get they have to do a difficult job & a lot of the people are unscrupulous individuals that don't want to pay.
But i find (watching this programme) that they're just downright argumentative & confrontational.

The 2 older fellas seem to have the professional/sympathetic balance correct, bald headed black guy (can't remember his name) & the chubby guy (not the one with glasses), seems to just do it as a bit of an ego boost.

That said, it is amusing when the scum bags who just don't want to pay (but they can), get their comeuppance.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,370 posts

150 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Sheets Tabuer said:
I think I'd rather starve than be a bailiff.
Would you rather starve than get someone else to recover monies rightfully owed to you?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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balliffs can earn some good money, I know he said he was salaried but look at the fees they charge, I bet most are on 50k+.

Oakey

27,567 posts

216 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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andymc said:
it would be interesting if they came upon a man mountain who didn't give a fk
It's happened, they st their pants and called the police.

There's also the time they paid a visit to Razor Ruddock, needless to say they gave him special treatment.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Got to see it from the claimants POV. A lot of people in this country like stuff, like having stuff, and doing stuff, but they like other people paying for their stuff. There was one on tonight, benefit claiming drama queen, owed for a funeral, but didn't have any assets, motab car etc. Small businesses can be sunk by this kind of thing, the debt was written off.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,370 posts

150 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Oakey said:
It's happened, they st their pants and called the police.

There's also the time they paid a visit to Razor Ruddock, needless to say they gave him special treatment.
His wife was a right charmer!

Laurel Green

30,779 posts

232 months

baldy1926

2,136 posts

200 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Well thats 5 minutes i'm not going to get back

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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what a mong.

strange looks, a device, cctv, he needs some assistance somewhere.

Oakey

27,567 posts

216 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Story sounds complete bullst to save face with the neighbours.

As if bailiffs are chasing a debt from 20 years ago!

Edited by Oakey on Tuesday 1st November 20:50

Mikebentley

6,106 posts

140 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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As usual lots of rubbish being talked. Court certified enforcement agents (bailiffs) and High Court Enforcement Agents are heavily regulated and have to work within the TCE2007 regulations which came into force in 2014. Any goods seized will be sold in 7 days giving ample time for owners if not the debtor to make representation and evidence ownership. The Police if called are only there to prevent any breach of the peace whatever form that may take and do not take sides in any discussion.
Many people unfortunately for whatever reason fail to honour their financial obligations and without regulated enforcement and debt recovery services there would be an impact on all of us that would result in us all paying more.

Mr Snrub

24,980 posts

227 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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markcoznottz said:
Got to see it from the claimants POV. A lot of people in this country like stuff, like having stuff, and doing stuff, but they like other people paying for their stuff. There was one on tonight, benefit claiming drama queen, owed for a funeral, but didn't have any assets, motab car etc. Small businesses can be sunk by this kind of thing, the debt was written off.
Remember seeing one where a woman needed to move closer to her ill mother so rented her house to a friend. They duly paid no rent and wrecked the place, tried to play the victim when the bailiffs turned up then swanned off to the council to get a new place. Poor woman was in tears when she saw the state of her house and had no chance of getting back the thousands she was owed. Still, good to see the usual collection of Youtube legal experts and hardmen chipping in

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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This program shows good debts and bailiffs in a good light as most are high court debts. I imagine the lower end of debts are a different matter.