Is Shmee150 going to be the new Chris Harris?
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EarlofDrift said:
Even if he earned a minimum of £700k a year from YouTube he's obviously got money coming from other means like silver spoon trust funds.
He made a video about the cost of running a Ferrari GTC4 Lusso it was something like £35k a year. Most of his cars are financed through his own Shmee150 finance company and most are appreciating assets so that offsets the initial outlay in the long term.
I remember him discussing the deposits for the Senna and Ford GT and they seemed genuinely terrifying. Throwing down £100k deposit then another £100k then another £250k and then another £200k. Insane amounts of money for 99.9% of the population the others the cost of secure parking and storage which in London must be insane.
Which of his cars are appreciating in value?He made a video about the cost of running a Ferrari GTC4 Lusso it was something like £35k a year. Most of his cars are financed through his own Shmee150 finance company and most are appreciating assets so that offsets the initial outlay in the long term.
I remember him discussing the deposits for the Senna and Ford GT and they seemed genuinely terrifying. Throwing down £100k deposit then another £100k then another £250k and then another £200k. Insane amounts of money for 99.9% of the population the others the cost of secure parking and storage which in London must be insane.
Edited by EarlofDrift on Tuesday 7th January 00:52
Thales said:
EarlofDrift said:
Even if he earned a minimum of £700k a year from YouTube he's obviously got money coming from other means like silver spoon trust funds.
He made a video about the cost of running a Ferrari GTC4 Lusso it was something like £35k a year. Most of his cars are financed through his own Shmee150 finance company and most are appreciating assets so that offsets the initial outlay in the long term.
I remember him discussing the deposits for the Senna and Ford GT and they seemed genuinely terrifying. Throwing down £100k deposit then another £100k then another £250k and then another £200k. Insane amounts of money for 99.9% of the population the others the cost of secure parking and storage which in London must be insane.
Which of his cars are appreciating in value?He made a video about the cost of running a Ferrari GTC4 Lusso it was something like £35k a year. Most of his cars are financed through his own Shmee150 finance company and most are appreciating assets so that offsets the initial outlay in the long term.
I remember him discussing the deposits for the Senna and Ford GT and they seemed genuinely terrifying. Throwing down £100k deposit then another £100k then another £250k and then another £200k. Insane amounts of money for 99.9% of the population the others the cost of secure parking and storage which in London must be insane.
Edited by EarlofDrift on Tuesday 7th January 00:52
Ford GT must be worth near that million pound mark.
Vantage GT8 has got to be worth more than he paid.
Then his orange Heritage RS and the red Mountune RS would be worth a bit more than he paid with all the upgrades.
EarlofDrift said:
His Senna must be worth at least a million going by the few sold at auction recently
Ford GT must be worth near that million pound mark.
Vantage GT8 has got to be worth more than he paid.
Then his orange Heritage RS and the red Mountune RS would be worth a bit more than he paid with all the upgrades.
The Senna is likely worth list price now if you look at the 10 or so for sale. The GT will have gone up massively as you say, as will the Heritage RS. Ford GT must be worth near that million pound mark.
Vantage GT8 has got to be worth more than he paid.
Then his orange Heritage RS and the red Mountune RS would be worth a bit more than he paid with all the upgrades.
The red one won’t be worth anything like what he’s paid out though, that’s just the way with tuned cars.
Beefmeister said:
EarlofDrift said:
His Senna must be worth at least a million going by the few sold at auction recently
Ford GT must be worth near that million pound mark.
Vantage GT8 has got to be worth more than he paid.
Then his orange Heritage RS and the red Mountune RS would be worth a bit more than he paid with all the upgrades.
The Senna is likely worth list price now if you look at the 10 or so for sale. The GT will have gone up massively as you say, as will the Heritage RS. Ford GT must be worth near that million pound mark.
Vantage GT8 has got to be worth more than he paid.
Then his orange Heritage RS and the red Mountune RS would be worth a bit more than he paid with all the upgrades.
The red one won’t be worth anything like what he’s paid out though, that’s just the way with tuned cars.
At auction do other people really value the custom options of the previous owner, probably not.
EarlofDrift said:
The Senna is an odd one because the list was something like £750k but you could go to town with MSO and easily stick another £200k options on it with £150k full carbon fibre and £50k custom paint plus all the other silly details.
At auction do other people really value the custom options of the previous owner, probably not.
I don’t think a single ‘standard’ Senna left the factory. Every one was MSO customised in some way, I think the average price was something like £850k. I don’t think they’re holding value as well as hoped, but that’s the McLaren way sadly. At auction do other people really value the custom options of the previous owner, probably not.
Is this thread still on track after 4 years?
The answer to the original question is an emphatic 'no'.
I met Chris Harris at a Caterham 'drift day' at Silverstone (car park!) around 14 years ago, long before he became super-famous:
Firstly, there's no way Schmee would ever even have been at an event like that (it was 'portacabin and plastic cup' type of hospitality
)
Secondly, the chat I had with Chris (was like talking to a mate) made it clear he was a proper car nut in a way Shmee will never be (not knocking the guy - he's done very well for himself).
The answer to the original question is an emphatic 'no'.
I met Chris Harris at a Caterham 'drift day' at Silverstone (car park!) around 14 years ago, long before he became super-famous:
Firstly, there's no way Schmee would ever even have been at an event like that (it was 'portacabin and plastic cup' type of hospitality
)Secondly, the chat I had with Chris (was like talking to a mate) made it clear he was a proper car nut in a way Shmee will never be (not knocking the guy - he's done very well for himself).
I didn't say he wasn't, per-se - read my post. I even qualified by saying "imo" and acknowledged that I might be overly harsh.
Ok, let me put it another way. Look at the stuff that Harris & Leno get excited about - the sheer breadth & depth of their passion for the automotive.
Ditto Harry Metcalfe.
Shmee, by comparison seems uninterested in anything that isn't a supercar or wildly unattainable to the vast majority of people.
His posts on here tell the same story. He doesn't talk about anything other than supercars, as far as I've seen.
Ok, he's got a Focus RS and a Mini (I think) but one swallow does not a summer make.
Ok, let me put it another way. Look at the stuff that Harris & Leno get excited about - the sheer breadth & depth of their passion for the automotive.
Ditto Harry Metcalfe.
Shmee, by comparison seems uninterested in anything that isn't a supercar or wildly unattainable to the vast majority of people.
His posts on here tell the same story. He doesn't talk about anything other than supercars, as far as I've seen.
Ok, he's got a Focus RS and a Mini (I think) but one swallow does not a summer make.
Edited by TheJimi on Thursday 9th January 16:49
TheJimi said:
I didn't say he wasn't, per-se - read my post. I even qualified by saying "imo" and acknowledged that I might be overly harsh.
Ok, let me put it another way. Look at the stuff that Harris & Leno get excited about - the sheer breadth & depth of their passion for the automotive.
Ditto Harry Metcalfe.
Shmee, by comparison seems uninterested in anything that isn't a supercar or wildly unattainable to the vast majority of people.
His posts on here tell the same story. He doesn't talk about anything other than supercars, as far as I've seen.
Ok, he's got a Focus RS and a Mini (I think) but one swallow does not a summer make.
I know Tim, and I’d say he’s one of the biggest petrol heads I know. He’s seriously passionate about cars of all prices and ranges, is extremely knowledgable too. He admits his knowledge of classics is lacking, but that can be said for many a petrol head. Ok, let me put it another way. Look at the stuff that Harris & Leno get excited about - the sheer breadth & depth of their passion for the automotive.
Ditto Harry Metcalfe.
Shmee, by comparison seems uninterested in anything that isn't a supercar or wildly unattainable to the vast majority of people.
His posts on here tell the same story. He doesn't talk about anything other than supercars, as far as I've seen.
Ok, he's got a Focus RS and a Mini (I think) but one swallow does not a summer make.
Edited by TheJimi on Thursday 9th January 16:49
What needs to be understood is that Shmee is a brand. A character if you will. And that character needs to satisfy his audience, which on YouTube is all about the latest and greatest Supercar. So he needs to create content that his fans will watch and share.
One of Tim’s favourite cars is his Vantage GT8, a proper petrolhead’s car if ever there was one, but you won’t see much content with it now as the YT audience just don’t really care about a few year old Aston. (Sadly)
I think it’s important that people see the distinction between Tim Burton and Shmee150.
TheJimi said:
I didn't say he wasn't, per-se - read my post. I even qualified by saying "imo" and acknowledged that I might be overly harsh.
Ok, let me put it another way. Look at the stuff that Harris & Leno get excited about - the sheer breadth & depth of their passion for the automotive.
Ditto Harry Metcalfe.
Shmee, by comparison seems uninterested in anything that isn't a supercar or wildly unattainable to the vast majority of people.
His posts on here tell the same story. He doesn't talk about anything other than supercars, as far as I've seen.
Ok, he's got a Focus RS and a Mini (I think) but one swallow does not a summer make.
I agree with all of this.Ok, let me put it another way. Look at the stuff that Harris & Leno get excited about - the sheer breadth & depth of their passion for the automotive.
Ditto Harry Metcalfe.
Shmee, by comparison seems uninterested in anything that isn't a supercar or wildly unattainable to the vast majority of people.
His posts on here tell the same story. He doesn't talk about anything other than supercars, as far as I've seen.
Ok, he's got a Focus RS and a Mini (I think) but one swallow does not a summer make.
In comparison, this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiLImHQbjis shows the true nature of Chris Harris' petrolheadedness. I can't ever see schmee getting excited about such old/special machinery.
But I do appreciate that 'petrolhead' is a very generic term for a very broad range of car-based passion, so yes, schmee is probably a petrolhead.
Beefmeister said:
One of Tim’s favourite cars is his Vantage GT8,
Pointing to a Vantage GT8 and basically saying "well, that's one of his favourites so he must be a petrolhead" kinda reaffirms my point, really. He's all about the supercars.
I appreciate your post though, and you know him personally, I don't, obviously. So I'll defer to your knowledge of him.
I'm really just articulating how he comes across to me. As monthefish points out, there's no real definition of a petrolhead.
Maybe it's more a reflection of me that I can relate to the likes of Harris, Leno & Metcalfe and not Shmee.
Compare Chris Harris’ or Metcalfe’s car collections against shmee’s and that’s all you need to know
Shmee makes my teeth itch. I don’t understand where his following has come from. Zero substance.
There’s little doubt however the bloke works extremely hard, so he deserves his success
Shmee makes my teeth itch. I don’t understand where his following has come from. Zero substance.
There’s little doubt however the bloke works extremely hard, so he deserves his success
DSC OFF said:
Compare Chris Harris’ or Metcalfe’s car collections against shmee’s and that’s all you need to know
Shmee makes my teeth itch. I don’t understand where his following has come from. Zero substance.
There’s little doubt however the bloke works extremely hard, so he deserves his success
As much as I loath Shmee - i called him a moon-faced woofter, which I stand by - both Harris and Metcalfe in particular are much older (and perhaps wiser) to have a less show off collection, not to mention more driving and more experience of more cars. Having said that, I'm about ages with shmee - I guess, I dont know his actual age - and I'd much rather see a video by Metcalfe on his Lancia Fulvia Zagato than Shmee on a Lambo or whatever.Shmee makes my teeth itch. I don’t understand where his following has come from. Zero substance.
There’s little doubt however the bloke works extremely hard, so he deserves his success
Harris is (sometimes) watchable, he is knowledgeable and good driver, but there are many irritating things about him and if he wasnt talking about cars he'd be the most boring, dull person ever. I cant watch him on TG as hes trying to be 'one of the lads' which he isn't. I like his eclectic collection though.
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