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Anyone remember that big-screen epic opening sequence from S1E1?
Clarkson symbolically leaving his troubles behind...the bold, brightly coloured supercars the three of them then appeared in suggesting a fresh, new start, then that massive armada of vehicles seen from the air, spearing across the desert.....Lambos, a vintage Rolls Royce, custom hot rods, vans, bikes, 4x4s, trucks, campervans.....petrolheads of all shapes and sizes all coming together for something special, something unique, something amazing
What a shame.
Clarkson symbolically leaving his troubles behind...the bold, brightly coloured supercars the three of them then appeared in suggesting a fresh, new start, then that massive armada of vehicles seen from the air, spearing across the desert.....Lambos, a vintage Rolls Royce, custom hot rods, vans, bikes, 4x4s, trucks, campervans.....petrolheads of all shapes and sizes all coming together for something special, something unique, something amazing
What a shame.
Leptons said:
227bhp said:
Why would I set out to waste an hour of my life?
It was rubbish, awkward and a waste of food. The whole series has been up and down, some great episodes, good bits and some crap ones. Personally I think they should ditch this trip abroad thing as it's just repetitive and dull.
At least I've watched all the episodes this time, I didn't even bother finishing off the last one. I don't think i'd pay for it.
Brilliant, watches it on pirate and then has the nerve to complain about it. It was rubbish, awkward and a waste of food. The whole series has been up and down, some great episodes, good bits and some crap ones. Personally I think they should ditch this trip abroad thing as it's just repetitive and dull.
At least I've watched all the episodes this time, I didn't even bother finishing off the last one. I don't think i'd pay for it.
Started watching it, but realised I wasn't in the mood for it. Especially after the "hilarious" damage to May's car by Clarkson "accidentally" reversing into him caused me to roll my eyes and say "FFS".
I will come back to it later in the week I think. You really have to be in the right mood for it, and I am clearly not.
I will come back to it later in the week I think. You really have to be in the right mood for it, and I am clearly not.
Crossflow Kid said:
Anyone remember that big-screen epic opening sequence from S1E1?
Clarkson symbolically leaving his troubles behind...the bold, brightly coloured supercars the three of them then appeared in suggesting a fresh, new start, then that massive armada of vehicles seen from the air, spearing across the desert.....Lambos, a vintage Rolls Royce, custom hot rods, vans, bikes, 4x4s, trucks, campervans.....petrolheads of all shapes and sizes all coming together for something special, something unique, something amazing
What a shame.
Absolutely.Clarkson symbolically leaving his troubles behind...the bold, brightly coloured supercars the three of them then appeared in suggesting a fresh, new start, then that massive armada of vehicles seen from the air, spearing across the desert.....Lambos, a vintage Rolls Royce, custom hot rods, vans, bikes, 4x4s, trucks, campervans.....petrolheads of all shapes and sizes all coming together for something special, something unique, something amazing
What a shame.
I'm genuinely astounded by the ill-informed and holier than thou attitude shown by many posters in the thread.
If these are genuinely your views and understanding of how (a) the world works and (b) how TV entertainment programmes work, you need to take a good day or so to have a long, hard look at your own lives. For the hard of understanding, let me explain:
1. It's a form of entertaiment. If it doesn't entertain you, don't pay your subscription (and don't watch pirated copies, I'm not going to be lectured on morality by criminals).
2. If you really think those bad, wealthy westerners bought all the fish from the market, thus depriving all those worthy brown-skinned, hard-working locals of their daily nosh, you're mental. It wasn't shot in real time, it wasn't a documentary, the people selling the fish (if it was their fish that were bought) only care about getting paid. The couldn't give a f
k whether someone eats it, plays tennis with it or has sex with it. They're in business to sell fish. It might surprise you to find out that there are businessmen and women in Africa too.
3. "Some African could have had the Merc" - Jesus, just because owning a clapped out W124 is your wet dream doesn't mean that they all should be treated as though they're a protected species. The African who sold that car to the production team probably earned enough money to buy himself a new fishing boat so he caould catch more fish to sell. Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, buy his stty W124 and he'll be able to feed himself for life.
4. They're actors. May and Hammond are being paid to (a) fall off the motorbike and (b) get grumpy with Clarkson when he does something stupid - ITS NOT REAL LIFE. Just occasionally, one of them will get injured or have a bad day, but most of the time, the arguments are scripted. Think of them as the male equivalent of the Spice Girls. They weren't being themselves either, but instead of Scary, Ginger, Posh, Sporty and Baby CHM are Reactionary, Crashy and Pernickety.
So when the third series happens, all those who find it distasteful, cancel your Amazon Prime subscription and let everyone else who understands get on with enjoying the hour or so of eye chewing-gum.
If these are genuinely your views and understanding of how (a) the world works and (b) how TV entertainment programmes work, you need to take a good day or so to have a long, hard look at your own lives. For the hard of understanding, let me explain:
1. It's a form of entertaiment. If it doesn't entertain you, don't pay your subscription (and don't watch pirated copies, I'm not going to be lectured on morality by criminals).
2. If you really think those bad, wealthy westerners bought all the fish from the market, thus depriving all those worthy brown-skinned, hard-working locals of their daily nosh, you're mental. It wasn't shot in real time, it wasn't a documentary, the people selling the fish (if it was their fish that were bought) only care about getting paid. The couldn't give a f
k whether someone eats it, plays tennis with it or has sex with it. They're in business to sell fish. It might surprise you to find out that there are businessmen and women in Africa too.3. "Some African could have had the Merc" - Jesus, just because owning a clapped out W124 is your wet dream doesn't mean that they all should be treated as though they're a protected species. The African who sold that car to the production team probably earned enough money to buy himself a new fishing boat so he caould catch more fish to sell. Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, buy his s
tty W124 and he'll be able to feed himself for life.4. They're actors. May and Hammond are being paid to (a) fall off the motorbike and (b) get grumpy with Clarkson when he does something stupid - ITS NOT REAL LIFE. Just occasionally, one of them will get injured or have a bad day, but most of the time, the arguments are scripted. Think of them as the male equivalent of the Spice Girls. They weren't being themselves either, but instead of Scary, Ginger, Posh, Sporty and Baby CHM are Reactionary, Crashy and Pernickety.
So when the third series happens, all those who find it distasteful, cancel your Amazon Prime subscription and let everyone else who understands get on with enjoying the hour or so of eye chewing-gum.
Cupramax said:
Just watched the last one. As stupid as the ending was I think I laughed more at that one as a whole than any of the others.
I did, it was very childish but funny.The first time May got soaked and Hammond fell from his bike were funnier than all the other times however...
Tootles the Taxi said:
I'm genuinely astounded by the ill-informed and holier than thou attitude shown by many posters in the thread.
If these are genuinely your views and understanding of how (a) the world works and (b) how TV entertainment programmes work, you need to take a good day or so to have a long, hard look at your own lives. For the hard of understanding, let me explain:
1. It's a form of entertaiment. If it doesn't entertain you, don't pay your subscription (and don't watch pirated copies, I'm not going to be lectured on morality by criminals).
2. If you really think those bad, wealthy westerners bought all the fish from the market, thus depriving all those worthy brown-skinned, hard-working locals of their daily nosh, you're mental. It wasn't shot in real time, it wasn't a documentary, the people selling the fish (if it was their fish that were bought) only care about getting paid. The couldn't give a fk whether someone eats it, plays tennis with it or has sex with it. They're in business to sell fish. It might surprise you to find out that there are businessmen and women in Africa too.
3. "Some African could have had the Merc" - Jesus, just because owning a clapped out W124 is your wet dream doesn't mean that they all should be treated as though they're a protected species. The African who sold that car to the production team probably earned enough money to buy himself a new fishing boat so he caould catch more fish to sell. Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, buy his stty W124 and he'll be able to feed himself for life.
4. They're actors. May and Hammond are being paid to (a) fall off the motorbike and (b) get grumpy with Clarkson when he does something stupid - ITS NOT REAL LIFE. Just occasionally, one of them will get injured or have a bad day, but most of the time, the arguments are scripted. Think of them as the male equivalent of the Spice Girls. They weren't being themselves either, but instead of Scary, Ginger, Posh, Sporty and Baby CHM are Reactionary, Crashy and Pernickety.
So when the third series happens, all those who find it distasteful, cancel your Amazon Prime subscription and let everyone else who understands get on with enjoying the hour or so of eye chewing-gum.
Here's a newsflash for you:If these are genuinely your views and understanding of how (a) the world works and (b) how TV entertainment programmes work, you need to take a good day or so to have a long, hard look at your own lives. For the hard of understanding, let me explain:
1. It's a form of entertaiment. If it doesn't entertain you, don't pay your subscription (and don't watch pirated copies, I'm not going to be lectured on morality by criminals).
2. If you really think those bad, wealthy westerners bought all the fish from the market, thus depriving all those worthy brown-skinned, hard-working locals of their daily nosh, you're mental. It wasn't shot in real time, it wasn't a documentary, the people selling the fish (if it was their fish that were bought) only care about getting paid. The couldn't give a f
k whether someone eats it, plays tennis with it or has sex with it. They're in business to sell fish. It might surprise you to find out that there are businessmen and women in Africa too.3. "Some African could have had the Merc" - Jesus, just because owning a clapped out W124 is your wet dream doesn't mean that they all should be treated as though they're a protected species. The African who sold that car to the production team probably earned enough money to buy himself a new fishing boat so he caould catch more fish to sell. Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, buy his s
tty W124 and he'll be able to feed himself for life.4. They're actors. May and Hammond are being paid to (a) fall off the motorbike and (b) get grumpy with Clarkson when he does something stupid - ITS NOT REAL LIFE. Just occasionally, one of them will get injured or have a bad day, but most of the time, the arguments are scripted. Think of them as the male equivalent of the Spice Girls. They weren't being themselves either, but instead of Scary, Ginger, Posh, Sporty and Baby CHM are Reactionary, Crashy and Pernickety.
So when the third series happens, all those who find it distasteful, cancel your Amazon Prime subscription and let everyone else who understands get on with enjoying the hour or so of eye chewing-gum.
We all know they are actors.
We all know it's just made-up entertainment.
We know it isn't real in any way, shape, or form.
We know they didn't actually deprive anyone of food by taking all the fish.
The post about 'someone could have had that Merc' was just a joke.
We know they weren't really trying to catch fish, transport fish, or sell fish.
We know it is all scripted.
We know they probably paid the African locals quite handsomely for their help and assistance.
You have missed the point. The point is that we are completely fine with all the above, but many of us were extremely disappointed with the episode because we know they can actually make really good entertainment.
We are discussing why it went so wrong compared to the fantastic TV they have produced in the past.
Lord Marylebone said:
Tootles the Taxi said:
I'm genuinely astounded by the ill-informed and holier than thou attitude shown by many posters in the thread.
If these are genuinely your views and understanding of how (a) the world works and (b) how TV entertainment programmes work, you need to take a good day or so to have a long, hard look at your own lives. For the hard of understanding, let me explain:
1. It's a form of entertaiment. If it doesn't entertain you, don't pay your subscription (and don't watch pirated copies, I'm not going to be lectured on morality by criminals).
2. If you really think those bad, wealthy westerners bought all the fish from the market, thus depriving all those worthy brown-skinned, hard-working locals of their daily nosh, you're mental. It wasn't shot in real time, it wasn't a documentary, the people selling the fish (if it was their fish that were bought) only care about getting paid. The couldn't give a fk whether someone eats it, plays tennis with it or has sex with it. They're in business to sell fish. It might surprise you to find out that there are businessmen and women in Africa too.
3. "Some African could have had the Merc" - Jesus, just because owning a clapped out W124 is your wet dream doesn't mean that they all should be treated as though they're a protected species. The African who sold that car to the production team probably earned enough money to buy himself a new fishing boat so he caould catch more fish to sell. Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, buy his stty W124 and he'll be able to feed himself for life.
4. They're actors. May and Hammond are being paid to (a) fall off the motorbike and (b) get grumpy with Clarkson when he does something stupid - ITS NOT REAL LIFE. Just occasionally, one of them will get injured or have a bad day, but most of the time, the arguments are scripted. Think of them as the male equivalent of the Spice Girls. They weren't being themselves either, but instead of Scary, Ginger, Posh, Sporty and Baby CHM are Reactionary, Crashy and Pernickety.
So when the third series happens, all those who find it distasteful, cancel your Amazon Prime subscription and let everyone else who understands get on with enjoying the hour or so of eye chewing-gum.
Here's a newsflash for you:If these are genuinely your views and understanding of how (a) the world works and (b) how TV entertainment programmes work, you need to take a good day or so to have a long, hard look at your own lives. For the hard of understanding, let me explain:
1. It's a form of entertaiment. If it doesn't entertain you, don't pay your subscription (and don't watch pirated copies, I'm not going to be lectured on morality by criminals).
2. If you really think those bad, wealthy westerners bought all the fish from the market, thus depriving all those worthy brown-skinned, hard-working locals of their daily nosh, you're mental. It wasn't shot in real time, it wasn't a documentary, the people selling the fish (if it was their fish that were bought) only care about getting paid. The couldn't give a f
k whether someone eats it, plays tennis with it or has sex with it. They're in business to sell fish. It might surprise you to find out that there are businessmen and women in Africa too.3. "Some African could have had the Merc" - Jesus, just because owning a clapped out W124 is your wet dream doesn't mean that they all should be treated as though they're a protected species. The African who sold that car to the production team probably earned enough money to buy himself a new fishing boat so he caould catch more fish to sell. Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, buy his s
tty W124 and he'll be able to feed himself for life.4. They're actors. May and Hammond are being paid to (a) fall off the motorbike and (b) get grumpy with Clarkson when he does something stupid - ITS NOT REAL LIFE. Just occasionally, one of them will get injured or have a bad day, but most of the time, the arguments are scripted. Think of them as the male equivalent of the Spice Girls. They weren't being themselves either, but instead of Scary, Ginger, Posh, Sporty and Baby CHM are Reactionary, Crashy and Pernickety.
So when the third series happens, all those who find it distasteful, cancel your Amazon Prime subscription and let everyone else who understands get on with enjoying the hour or so of eye chewing-gum.
We all know they are actors.
We all know it's just made-up entertainment.
We know it isn't real in any way, shape, or form.
We know they didn't actually deprive anyone of food by taking all the fish.
The post about 'someone could have had that Merc' was just a joke.
We know they weren't really trying to catch fish, transport fish, or sell fish.
We know it is all scripted.
We know they probably paid the African locals quite handsomely for their help and assistance.
You have missed the point. The point is that we are completely fine with all the above, but many of us were extremely disappointed with the episode because we know they can actually make really good entertainment.
We are discussing why it went so wrong compared to the fantastic TV they have produced in the past.
Lord Marylebone said:
You have missed the point. The point is that we are completely fine with all the above, but many of us were extremely disappointed with the episode because we know they can actually make really good entertainment.
We are discussing why it went so wrong compared to the fantastic TV they have produced in the past.
no, No, NO!We are discussing why it went so wrong compared to the fantastic TV they have produced in the past.
By criticising the show, we are basically saying they are murdering babies. And people like Tootle CANNOT have that!
I mean if you don't like it don't watch it.
And if you do watch it because you hope it will be one of the better episodes, and it's not. You must say it IS good
Tootles the Taxi said:
I'm genuinely astounded by the ill-informed and holier than thou attitude shown by many posters in the thread.
If these are genuinely your views and understanding of how (a) the world works and (b) how TV entertainment programmes work, you need to take a good day or so to have a long, hard look at your own lives. For the hard of understanding, let me explain:
1. It's a form of entertaiment. If it doesn't entertain you, don't pay your subscription (and don't watch pirated copies, I'm not going to be lectured on morality by criminals).
2. If you really think those bad, wealthy westerners bought all the fish from the market, thus depriving all those worthy brown-skinned, hard-working locals of their daily nosh, you're mental. It wasn't shot in real time, it wasn't a documentary, the people selling the fish (if it was their fish that were bought) only care about getting paid. The couldn't give a fk whether someone eats it, plays tennis with it or has sex with it. They're in business to sell fish. It might surprise you to find out that there are businessmen and women in Africa too.
3. "Some African could have had the Merc" - Jesus, just because owning a clapped out W124 is your wet dream doesn't mean that they all should be treated as though they're a protected species. The African who sold that car to the production team probably earned enough money to buy himself a new fishing boat so he caould catch more fish to sell. Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, buy his stty W124 and he'll be able to feed himself for life.
4. They're actors. May and Hammond are being paid to (a) fall off the motorbike and (b) get grumpy with Clarkson when he does something stupid - ITS NOT REAL LIFE. Just occasionally, one of them will get injured or have a bad day, but most of the time, the arguments are scripted. Think of them as the male equivalent of the Spice Girls. They weren't being themselves either, but instead of Scary, Ginger, Posh, Sporty and Baby CHM are Reactionary, Crashy and Pernickety.
So when the third series happens, all those who find it distasteful, cancel your Amazon Prime subscription and let everyone else who understands get on with enjoying the hour or so of eye chewing-gum.
This is a Pistonheads classic. If these are genuinely your views and understanding of how (a) the world works and (b) how TV entertainment programmes work, you need to take a good day or so to have a long, hard look at your own lives. For the hard of understanding, let me explain:
1. It's a form of entertaiment. If it doesn't entertain you, don't pay your subscription (and don't watch pirated copies, I'm not going to be lectured on morality by criminals).
2. If you really think those bad, wealthy westerners bought all the fish from the market, thus depriving all those worthy brown-skinned, hard-working locals of their daily nosh, you're mental. It wasn't shot in real time, it wasn't a documentary, the people selling the fish (if it was their fish that were bought) only care about getting paid. The couldn't give a f
k whether someone eats it, plays tennis with it or has sex with it. They're in business to sell fish. It might surprise you to find out that there are businessmen and women in Africa too.3. "Some African could have had the Merc" - Jesus, just because owning a clapped out W124 is your wet dream doesn't mean that they all should be treated as though they're a protected species. The African who sold that car to the production team probably earned enough money to buy himself a new fishing boat so he caould catch more fish to sell. Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, buy his s
tty W124 and he'll be able to feed himself for life.4. They're actors. May and Hammond are being paid to (a) fall off the motorbike and (b) get grumpy with Clarkson when he does something stupid - ITS NOT REAL LIFE. Just occasionally, one of them will get injured or have a bad day, but most of the time, the arguments are scripted. Think of them as the male equivalent of the Spice Girls. They weren't being themselves either, but instead of Scary, Ginger, Posh, Sporty and Baby CHM are Reactionary, Crashy and Pernickety.
So when the third series happens, all those who find it distasteful, cancel your Amazon Prime subscription and let everyone else who understands get on with enjoying the hour or so of eye chewing-gum.
Rich_W said:
Lord Marylebone said:
You have missed the point. The point is that we are completely fine with all the above, but many of us were extremely disappointed with the episode because we know they can actually make really good entertainment.
We are discussing why it went so wrong compared to the fantastic TV they have produced in the past.
no, No, NO!We are discussing why it went so wrong compared to the fantastic TV they have produced in the past.
By criticising the show, we are basically saying they are murdering babies. And people like Tootle CANNOT have that!
I mean if you don't like it don't watch it.
And if you do watch it because you hope it will be one of the better episodes, and it's not. You must say it IS good
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