The Grand Tour

[V8covin]

Lord.Vader said:

Really enjoyed it, especially the unscripted humour when you can genuinely see it is essentially 3 mates messing about in boats and getting paid ...

Looking forward to the next one.

How do you know which bits were unscripted ?

[Blackpuddin]

Mrs Blackpuddin (who much prefers the Flintoff/Harris/McGuinness team) enjoyed watching the old boys 'having to man up for a change'. The sea section looked genuinely hairy but overall I thought it was 6.5 out of 10. The frequent comments from Hammond and May about how rubbish it all was were probably closer to the truth than Wilman would have liked. Without Clarkson's historical contributions it would have been very one-dimensional.

[LuS1fer]

kev1974 said:

Surprised Greta's Army haven't taken huge offence that their three boats, and maybe some of the camera boats, must have been flown or shipped half way round the world out there to make the show.

Sadly, programmes like this merely highlight how ineffective and pointless, Greta is - while modern countries try their best to clean up and moderate, third world countries overfish and chuck pure soot into already polluted rivers while generating massive amounts of plastic.

For every smug Liberal in a Nissan Leaf, there are thousands or millions of boats chucking out unfettered crap, not that this is a high priority over surviving. So I am all for Greta going there and lecturing them and see how that works out for her.

[anonymous-user]

V8covin said:

Lord.Vader said:

Really enjoyed it, especially the unscripted humour when you can genuinely see it is essentially 3 mates messing about in boats and getting paid ...

Looking forward to the next one.

How do you know which bits were unscripted ?

Because I’m a Sith Lord.

[MartG]

LuS1fer said:

kev1974 said:

Surprised Greta's Army haven't taken huge offence that their three boats, and maybe some of the camera boats, must have been flown or shipped half way round the world out there to make the show.

Sadly, programmes like this merely highlight how ineffective and pointless, Greta is - while modern countries try their best to clean up and moderate, third world countries overfish and chuck pure soot into already polluted rivers while generating massive amounts of plastic.

For every smug Liberal in a Nissan Leaf, there are thousands or millions of boats chucking out unfettered crap, not that this is a high priority over surviving. So I am all for Greta going there and lecturing them and see how that works out for her.

^ This - and it's not just 3rd world countries - my son is constantly amazed how much plastic packaging the Japanese use

[anonymous-user]

LuS1fer said:

kev1974 said:

Surprised Greta's Army haven't taken huge offence that their three boats, and maybe some of the camera boats, must have been flown or shipped half way round the world out there to make the show.

Sadly, programmes like this merely highlight how ineffective and pointless, Greta is - while modern countries try their best to clean up and moderate, third world countries overfish and chuck pure soot into already polluted rivers while generating massive amounts of plastic.

For every smug Liberal in a Nissan Leaf, there are thousands or millions of boats chucking out unfettered crap, not that this is a high priority over surviving. So I am all for Greta going there and lecturing them and see how that works out for her.

The lack of action by other countries isn’t really a good reason for us to not try our hardest to be more ‘green’ in whatever form that takes.

Every little helps?

[Shakermaker]

V8covin said:

Lord.Vader said:

Really enjoyed it, especially the unscripted humour when you can genuinely see it is essentially 3 mates messing about in boats and getting paid ...

Looking forward to the next one.

How do you know which bits were unscripted ?

Not this again!

I very much enjoyed it as easy Saturday night viewing. I'm not going to be rushing to rewatch it, but then I rarely do anyway.

[Blackpuddin]

Is there another one of these specials in the offing, do we know?

[MartG]

Blackpuddin said:

Is there another one of these specials in the offing, do we know?

Wilman is quoted as saying 2 a year

[LuS1fer]

Lord Marylebone said:

The lack of action by other countries isn’t really a good reason for us to not try our hardest to be more ‘green’ in whatever form that takes.

Every little helps?

True but it's like a dam, leaking at 1000 gallons a minute while we try to top it up with a cup. Essentially, you have to stop the leak itself but, in this instance, people are making the hole bigger.

[Muzzer79]

I enjoyed it and some bits made me smile - Jizzle Drizzle being one.

But I prefer it when there's actually cars involved, there's a point to their journey and it is becoming a bit repetitive in terms of gags.

However, it's good fun and certainly better than some of the other dross on TV.

[willy wombat]

I watched it last night (Sunday evening being the traditional viewing time for CHM) after a pleasant dinner with a couple of glasses of red wine and I enjoyed it.

[JagLover]

Decent enough but not spectacular. Second half better than first I thought. Just good to see them all again.

[otolith]

MartG said:

LuS1fer said:

kev1974 said:

Surprised Greta's Army haven't taken huge offence that their three boats, and maybe some of the camera boats, must have been flown or shipped half way round the world out there to make the show.

Sadly, programmes like this merely highlight how ineffective and pointless, Greta is - while modern countries try their best to clean up and moderate, third world countries overfish and chuck pure soot into already polluted rivers while generating massive amounts of plastic.

For every smug Liberal in a Nissan Leaf, there are thousands or millions of boats chucking out unfettered crap, not that this is a high priority over surviving. So I am all for Greta going there and lecturing them and see how that works out for her.

^ This - and it's not just 3rd world countries - my son is constantly amazed how much plastic packaging the Japanese use

Thunberg is campaigning about climate change.

Climate change is primarily about emissions of carbon dioxide, with some additional concerns about other gases like methane.

Climate change is not about local air quality or ocean plastics, nor about people not picking up dog poo, or dropped cigarette butts, or putting used oil down the drain or any number of other things that people do which make our environment sttier than it needs to be.

Note that you don't actually have to agree with her to see that these things are nothing to do with her campaign.

[Blackpuddin]

MartG said:

Blackpuddin said:

Is there another one of these specials in the offing, do we know?

Wilman is quoted as saying 2 a year

Can't remember them doing much in Australia or NZ, wonder if either of those might be the next target.

[C70R]

thegreenhell said:

It was definitely a high-scoring episode of CHM bingo:

• Clarkson struggles to control his vehicle and crashes into local inhabitants' boats/buildings multiple times - check.
• Repeated unnecessary crashing into each other - check
• At least one of them gets stuck in some mud and pays some locals to get them out - check.
• Clarkson and Hammond speed off into the distance, leaving May to plod along behind - check.
• Clarkson and May sneak out of a hotel at night with some spray paint to deface Hammond's vehicle - check.
• Hammond refuses to eat anything that he can't buy at his local Waitrose - check.

It was enjoyable enough, but I wouldn't bother with a second viewing any time in the foreseeable future.

And it wasn't any less enjoyable for repeating all of those previous gags.

I watch The Grand Tour for light entertainment, not original comedy.

[TurboHatchback]

I enjoyed it. I'd agree that it wasn't up there with the very best (Bolivia, Botswana, possibly Patagonia) but an enjoyable watch nonetheless. I'd like to have seen more of the details of the boats, we never saw inside the cabin of Hammond or Mays boat. Also the standard features of transporting some impractically sized baggage, converting the vehicles into campers and sleeping in them, crossing ridiculous obstacles etc weren't present and I enjoy those when they are.

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

C70R said:

thegreenhell said:

It was definitely a high-scoring episode of CHM bingo:

• Clarkson struggles to control his vehicle and crashes into local inhabitants' boats/buildings multiple times - check.
• Repeated unnecessary crashing into each other - check because it would be so much better if they just took great care to look after their stuff and avoided crashing at all costs
• At least one of them gets stuck in some mud and pays some locals to get them out - check. again, it would be such a better watch if nothing ever went wrong
• Clarkson and Hammond speed off into the distance, leaving May to plod along behind - check. again, would be amazing if they all just helped each other out and got along just merrily
• Clarkson and May sneak out of a hotel at night with some spray paint to deface Hammond's vehicle - check. it's an old gag, but many old comedy series "repeat" old stuff, it's like, you know, a running theme.
• Hammond refuses to eat anything that he can't buy at his local Waitrose - check. yes I noticed that too. It utterly, utterly spoiled the whole show, I was very disappointed he didn't eat his bird egg thing

It was enjoyable enough, but I wouldn't bother with a second viewing any time in the foreseeable future.

And it wasn't any less enjoyable for repeating all of those previous gags.

I watch The Grand Tour for light entertainment, not original comedy.

Agreed.

[Emeye]

This constant arguing about whether it is scripted or unscripted always baffles me as they have always credited Richard Porter, aka Sniffpetrol as Script Editor.

But not this time - I hadn't noticed, but on twitter Richard Porter "tweeted" that this was the first Top Gear/Grand Tour in 17 years he hadn't been involved in, as there was no cars and no script..... (he may have been joking about the script thing).

https://twitter.com/sniffpetrol/status/12054230536...

[TopTrump]

I thought it was brilliant. I really can't understand the tedious little freaks that come on here to say how much they didn't enjoy it. Really bitter, self-important little oiks.