The Grand Tour
Discussion
Greg_B said:
RB Will said:
Yes definitely at The Ridge. I’m wondering if they turned up expecting the usual car meet but got the wrong day or the turnout was rubbish because of Covid and they didn’t want to use footage of a gathering of 3 cars.
If it was going to be the wrong day you would think the Ridge would have let them know so maybe was the latter?
Normally a bit more like this, which would have fit into the narrative a bit better. One of the local clubs basically think they are 1950s Americans and come dressed up most of the time so would have been good for the narrative too.
I think you have hit it dead on. The text from Wilman stating that he had created this place where they and their cars would fit right in makes perfect sense given what you posted. Unfortunately they didn't have the footage to let it play out, so we got that scene in the bar which was rather weak.If it was going to be the wrong day you would think the Ridge would have let them know so maybe was the latter?
Normally a bit more like this, which would have fit into the narrative a bit better. One of the local clubs basically think they are 1950s Americans and come dressed up most of the time so would have been good for the narrative too.
I thought it wasn't quite as bad as Seamen or A Massive Hunt that preceded it, but it was still gasping for breath quite a bit. It might have been better if instead of '70s luxo-boats, they had selected a Mustang, a Camaro and a Barracuda right from the start and stayed with those.
I wonder how much the Charger that they destroyed ended up costing Amazon.
Anyway, I think the ending was a bit 3D chess - you'd have to have picked up the references through the show and then take a bit of a leap to tie in that final scene. There was a section where they looked at what the American cars of the period had and compared to what was in the UK, but they were comparing the Lincoln Mark 5, which was a hamburger-with-the-lot car - though it probably had more gadgets inside than a Rolls Royce or Bentley from the same era. They then compared the Mustang with the Capri, which was probably a more relatable thing to normal people.
American cars don't really catch on in Europe or the UK. Like what they said, American cars do carry a stigma. Even a lot of PH'ers would take a tinsel covered Merc A45 than a bright red Mustang due to "George Bush/hard plastic/they get what from six point two litres!!!!!1...." and the usual tropes. I think they're trying to say that when that stigma finally goes, those noteworthy American cars will get gone, replaced by "Chinese" vehicles ("Chinese" being a metaphor for dull and basic - like the British cars of their parents). Remember too that they did an episode of The Grand Tour in China.....
Adam. said:
The Spruce Goose said:
The issue is is this the image or the man himself. Probably explains why no second season of the Farm.
I am sure I saw a trailer for series 2 recently Let's face it, Amazon are well known for supporting "racist xenophobes" ( TM. The Spruce Goose).
I think it's in their Mission Statement.
Fairly middle of the road episode. Funny, tried and tested format, nothing to rock the boat (pun intended).
It was a shame it wasn't shot in summer, Scotland is truly stunning when the weather is nice and that would have added quite a lot, as their tours as often as much about where they go as what they do when they're there. The beaches, the lochs etc look so much better when the sun is bright, and the Applecross road is a lovely view as well.
It was a shame it wasn't shot in summer, Scotland is truly stunning when the weather is nice and that would have added quite a lot, as their tours as often as much about where they go as what they do when they're there. The beaches, the lochs etc look so much better when the sun is bright, and the Applecross road is a lovely view as well.
Read in the paper today, the previous owner of Hammond's boat tail, is not at all amused, seems it had a lot of sentimental value, and thought he was selling to a collector, who would take great car of it "not f
k it up as Hammond did.
Pretty sure if you sell anything, you then have no right to dictate what happens.
k it up as Hammond did.Pretty sure if you sell anything, you then have no right to dictate what happens.
rigga said:
Read in the paper today, the previous owner of Hammond's boat tail, is not at all amused, seems it had a lot of sentimental value, and thought he was selling to a collector, who would take great car of it "not fk it up as Hammond did.
Pretty sure if you sell anything, you then have no right to dictate what happens.
Also, the sentimental value was so great that he sold it anyway.k it up as Hammond did.Pretty sure if you sell anything, you then have no right to dictate what happens.
rigga said:
Pretty sure if you sell anything, you then have no right to dictate what happens.
But you can choose who it goes to, or who you think it is. Something like that required a lot of effort to import and keep going all these years. To have it thrown away for the sake of a few sniggers from people guffing at home would get on my nerves too. Anyway the show seemed very clapped out to me, but still diverting of course.
The reason their solo stuff has gone down well is that you can tell their heart is in it. Not sure if that's the case here any more.
Sixpackpert said:
It was okay. Nothing to rave about IMHO. Clarkson and May are on another level to Hammond, and it shows now more than ever.
Not one to watch again, a few chucklesome moments.
This. ^^^Not one to watch again, a few chucklesome moments.
Not bad, some of the jokes have dated really badly already. Not too sure what the point of the Chinese stuff was at the end. Seemed to be labouring a joke that wasn’t really there.
bloomen said:
rigga said:
Pretty sure if you sell anything, you then have no right to dictate what happens.
But you can choose who it goes to, or who you think it is. Something like that required a lot of effort to import and keep going all these years. To have it thrown away for the sake of a few sniggers from people guffing at home would get on my nerves too. Anyway the show seemed very clapped out to me, but still diverting of course.
The reason their solo stuff has gone down well is that you can tell their heart is in it. Not sure if that's the case here any more.
ThunderSpook said:
I disagree entirely. If you’ve put a price on it and I pay that price then as far as I’m concerned I can burn it there and then in front of you. Yes it might be a shame, but it’s not yours so you can’t get cross about it. If you want to get cross if it’s abused, don’t sell it.
Which is why I wouldn't sell it to you and wait for someone else. If it's choice between someone in a van with 'Ken's Banger Team' written on it or someone from the owners' club then I'd go for the latter. The sale might be forced. I might want to buy it back some day.
I presume top gear and grand tour buyers have to lie about the destination of the car. Even the saddest and lowliest piece of old junk needed someone keen on it to keep it going and everyone knows how many a car ends up on there.
Edited by bloomen on Sunday 1st August 13:31
ThunderSpook said:
bloomen said:
rigga said:
Pretty sure if you sell anything, you then have no right to dictate what happens.
But you can choose who it goes to, or who you think it is. Something like that required a lot of effort to import and keep going all these years. To have it thrown away for the sake of a few sniggers from people guffing at home would get on my nerves too. Anyway the show seemed very clapped out to me, but still diverting of course.
The reason their solo stuff has gone down well is that you can tell their heart is in it. Not sure if that's the case here any more.
If I'm trying to make sure something I have is going to a good home, say because I don't have space to keep it for some reason, I'm going to be a little bit annoyed if someone tells me they're an enthusiast who'll garage it then it turns out they were lying and bought it to trash it.
It's a bit like your gran going into a home and finding someone who'll give their dog a nice family home and the next time you see it someone's having it for lunch.
The whole idea of buying stuff to deliberately trash it was tired ten years ago.
bloomen said:
Which is why I wouldn't sell it to you and wait for someone else.
If it's choice between someone in a van with 'Ken's Banger Team' written on it or someone from the owners' club then I'd go for the latter. The sale might be forced. I might want to buy it back some day.
I presume top gear and grand tour buyers have to lie about the destination of the car. Even the saddest and lowliest piece of old junk needed someone keen on it to keep it going and everyone knows how many a car ends up on there.
But how would you know, if a seemingly normal person turned up and paid your asking price? Why are you interviewing them to see if they are worthy of owning the thing you don't want to own anymore? Just take the money and don't look back.If it's choice between someone in a van with 'Ken's Banger Team' written on it or someone from the owners' club then I'd go for the latter. The sale might be forced. I might want to buy it back some day.
I presume top gear and grand tour buyers have to lie about the destination of the car. Even the saddest and lowliest piece of old junk needed someone keen on it to keep it going and everyone knows how many a car ends up on there.
Edited by bloomen on Sunday 1st August 13:31
bloomen said:
ThunderSpook said:
I disagree entirely. If you’ve put a price on it and I pay that price then as far as I’m concerned I can burn it there and then in front of you. Yes it might be a shame, but it’s not yours so you can’t get cross about it. If you want to get cross if it’s abused, don’t sell it.
Which is why I wouldn't sell it to you and wait for someone else. If it's choice between someone in a van with 'Ken's Banger Team' written on it or someone from the owners' club then I'd go for the latter. The sale might be forced. I might want to buy it back some day.
I presume top gear and grand tour buyers have to lie about the destination of the car. Even the saddest and lowliest piece of old junk needed someone keen on it to keep it going and everyone knows how many a car ends up on there.
Edited by bloomen on Sunday 1st August 13:31
98elise said:
Why would the buyers have to lie about anything? They are buying a car, not applying for a job. Agree price, pay seller, drive away. What else is there to go over?
Because presumably when the seller finds out it's W Chump & Sons there's an opportunity to put the price up.Same reason companies like Apple buy domain names through intermediaries.
ThunderSpook said:
I disagree entirely. If you’ve put a price on it and I pay that price then as far as I’m concerned I can burn it there and then in front of you. Yes it might be a shame, but it’s not yours so you can’t get cross about it. If you want to get cross if it’s abused, don’t sell it.
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