Car SOS - how good are their restorations?

Car SOS - how good are their restorations?

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velocgee

512 posts

147 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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Just watching the Subaru episode; guy at EBC says race spec pads aren’t legal cos they stop too good. WTF.....Really!! Shocking misinformation

williamp

19,270 posts

274 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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velocgee said:
Just watching the Subaru episode; guy at EBC says race spec pads aren’t legal cos they stop too good. WTF.....Really!! Shocking misinformation
I thoughf fhat was oxd. Maybe goo good for racing? Or need too high tempereatures for normL road use, so wont make the MOT??

IanH755

1,865 posts

121 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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They don't work very well when cold but are better when upto temp, that's why the say "race" and usually "not recommended for road" due to that poor cold performance.

velocgee

512 posts

147 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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IanH755 said:
They don't work very well when cold but are better when upto temp, that's why the say "race" and usually "not recommended for road" due to that poor cold performance.
Exactly!

Can’t believe someone from an actual brake manufacturer was so wide of the mark.

Derek Smith

45,742 posts

249 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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I had a Ginetta G32 that my lad used on occasion for hill-climbing. He used Greenstuff pads but replaced them with normal stuff after every event.

Until:

0515 on a cold May morning, I drove from my house to the junction with the A259 without touching the brakes. I took my normal braking point, only to drive across almost the full width of the road. For a few moments I thought I might be visiting the Channel. The brakes worked on my drive back to my house but I took the other car.

I had a local garage look at my brakes as they seemed OK on a quick inspection later that day, and they said that the pads were 'unsuitable' for road use. I asked if they were illegal, ie actually banned, but he said as a copper I should realise that it would be dangerous condition.

Very scary.

I got my own back on my lad, although inadvertently. The rear tyres wore very quickly and I had a geometry check. I was told there was excessive toe-in on the rear. It was put back to normal. The next hill-climb, my lad all but spun off on the first corner. That'll teach him not to change the pads.

SOS has become very predictable. I record it and watch it whenever. It is no longer compulsive viewing.


Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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Derek Smith said:
I had a Ginetta G32 that my lad used on occasion for hill-climbing. He used Greenstuff pads but replaced them with normal stuff after every event.

Until:

0515 on a cold May morning, I drove from my house to the junction with the A259 without touching the brakes. I took my normal braking point, only to drive across almost the full width of the road. For a few moments I thought I might be visiting the Channel. The brakes worked on my drive back to my house but I took the other car.

I had a local garage look at my brakes as they seemed OK on a quick inspection later that day, and they said that the pads were 'unsuitable' for road use. I asked if they were illegal, ie actually banned, but he said as a copper I should realise that it would be dangerous condition.

Very scary.

I got my own back on my lad, although inadvertently. The rear tyres wore very quickly and I had a geometry check. I was told there was excessive toe-in on the rear. It was put back to normal. The next hill-climb, my lad all but spun off on the first corner. That'll teach him not to change the pads.

SOS has become very predictable. I record it and watch it whenever. It is no longer compulsive viewing.
Do you mean he had left the greenstuff pads on the car? They are a shocking pad, but quite suitable for road use. I had them on a MX5 for a few days. Then I did a trackday and they vanished....

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,257 posts

201 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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velocgee said:
IanH755 said:
They don't work very well when cold but are better when upto temp, that's why the say "race" and usually "not recommended for road" due to that poor cold performance.
Exactly!

Can’t believe someone from an actual brake manufacturer was so wide of the mark.
That was an odd thing to say wasn't it.
It's a car related program, so chances are people watching are actually slightly knowledgeable. How on earth can they say the brake pads are 'too good' for road use and might trigger a rear end shunt from the standard pads car behind...scratchchin
Unbelievable that made it through editing. Even my Wife sensed the error in that statement.

Bright Halo

2,977 posts

236 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Back to the standard format with the TR4.
A real deserving case where the true cost of restoration would have been prohibitive.

The chap receiving it was so obviously overcome by emotion it was genuinely heartwarming to see.

Tim Shaw for all the put on bargaining etc is absolutely brilliant with the families, he gauges the amount of sympathy and empathy without being over the top to perfection.


Smollet

10,638 posts

191 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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A good episode and a deserving recipient. Was that a 6R4 in the background in a couple of scenes?

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Smollet said:
A good episode and a deserving recipient. Was that a 6R4 in the background in a couple of scenes?
I thought that too, on a Q plate on the lift?

Very good episode and glad it’s all back to form.

Sa Calobra

37,190 posts

212 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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I agree on Tim Shaw's empathy. Laying it on thick would seem a cheap shot. Top show.

mywifeshusband

595 posts

199 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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When I watched the Subaru episode, I noticed Fuzz had a "Hayburner" sticker on the shelving in the workshop. Top Man for that.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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mywifeshusband said:
When I watched the Subaru episode, I noticed Fuzz had a "Hayburner" sticker on the shelving in the workshop. Top Man for that.
There's normally a nice old Bug parked outside too. I assume someone that works there is an air cooled VW fan.

TheAngryDog

12,409 posts

210 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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Just watched the TR4 episode. None of Tim's full on BS, and the owner was very deserving and gracious.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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Is anyone else having issues with Sky series link for this new series ? Mine picks up the new episodes, but also every other episode on every other channel and there are a lot of them ! I have tried deleting them, but it still does it.

foxsasha

1,417 posts

136 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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velocgee said:
Just watching the Subaru episode; guy at EBC says race spec pads aren’t legal cos they stop too good. WTF.....Really!! Shocking misinformation
Aftermarket pads have to be within 15% of the performance of the original pads to be ECE R90 complaint and road legal so the EBC guy was absolutely correct in saying the performance EBC pads were too good to be road legal.

Imagine fitting replacement rear pads with a significantly higher coefficient of friction compared to OE. Brake bias is moved rearwards leading to the rear brakes locking before the front and the vehicle becoming unstable under hard braking.

zeb

3,204 posts

219 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Bright Halo said:
Back to the standard format with the TR4.
A real deserving case where the true cost of restoration would have been prohibitive.

The chap receiving it was so obviously overcome by emotion it was genuinely heartwarming to see.

Tim Shaw for all the put on bargaining etc is absolutely brilliant with the families, he gauges the amount of sympathy and empathy without being over the top to perfection.
agree 100%

BricktopST205

956 posts

135 months

Wednesday 6th March 2019
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Downward said:
This guy could have paid to have it resorted himself
Forgot this was back on telly.

I thought the premise of this show was making dreams for people that otherwise wouldn't have stood a chance. The guys supposed pride and joy has been left to rot in his million pound house over the period of 20 years. The wife even said "how has he left it to rot like that with all that money" because she knows how anal I am with my classic car. I lost my father to bowel cancer in the space of 6 months and it isn't a nice disease but he seems to have caught it early and is over the worst of it.

She even works for a motorcycle museum which is more than likely linked to the British Motor Museum so more than likely a inside job.

Edited by BricktopST205 on Wednesday 6th March 10:54

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 6th March 2019
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BricktopST205 said:
Forgot this was back on telly.

I thought the premise of this show was making dreams for people that otherwise wouldn't have stood a chance. The guys supposed pride and joy has been left to rot in his million pound house over the period of 20 years. The wife even said "how has he left it to rot like that with all that money" because she knows how anal I am with my classic car. I lost my father to bowel cancer in the space of 6 months and it isn't a nice disease but he seems to have caught it early and is over the worst of it.

She even works for a motorcycle museum which is more than likely linked to the British Motor Museum so more than likely a inside job.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 6th March 10:54
You don't want to judge by appearances, but as you say, some of the "victims" do seem to have a bob or two. You wouldn't wish their illnesses on anyone, but some cases are definately more deserving than others.

Steamer

13,866 posts

214 months

Wednesday 6th March 2019
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Grahamdub said:
BricktopST205 said:
Forgot this was back on telly.

I thought the premise of this show was making dreams for people that otherwise wouldn't have stood a chance. The guys supposed pride and joy has been left to rot in his million pound house over the period of 20 years. The wife even said "how has he left it to rot like that with all that money" because she knows how anal I am with my classic car. I lost my father to bowel cancer in the space of 6 months and it isn't a nice disease but he seems to have caught it early and is over the worst of it.

She even works for a motorcycle museum which is more than likely linked to the British Motor Museum so more than likely a inside job.

Edited by BricktopST205 on Wednesday 6th March 10:54
You don't want to judge by appearances, but as you say, some of the "victims" do seem to have a bob or two. You wouldn't wish their illnesses on anyone, but some cases are definately more deserving than others.
You've also got to maybe take the view that someone with a bit of money but in a life threatening situation maybe thinking more along the lines of securing the future of their kids / wife, rather than blowing it on a car project that they can live without.