BBC Top Gear 2017 Thread

[Rawwr]

briang9 said:

Where does Jay Kay get the money from to pay for his impressive car collection? Can't imagine it's from sales of his music, does he have other "strings to his bow"?

He got most of his fortune from his plastering business. Paul McCartney is a part-time electrician, too.

[carl_w]

Hub said:

Every Bernie interview is strange to be fair, but it didn't belong on Top Gear.

But the "I tell you a word and you give me your reaction" approach is exactly the same as the Martin Brundle interview with Bernie in Brazil. Weird.

[TTmonkey]

p1stonhead said:

briang9 said:

Where does Jay Kay get the money from to pay for his impressive car collection? Can't imagine it's from sales of his music, does he have other "strings to his bow"?

Id says its perfectly possible with 25 million albums sold and 10 world tours under his belt.

It's odd that for such a massive 'superband' I never hear their music, it's rarly on the radio, I don't know anyone that's a fan of their music, no one says they are going to a Jamourquai gig, you don't here their music on adverts etc.... it's like the biggest band that no one seems to be into. Every now and then there's a chart show kind of program with their odd music video on, but other than that..... yet he seems to have far more obvious wealth than bands that had a big following and still have a massive fan base.

Maybe it's hat sales that he gets all his money.

I certainly couldn't name a single album of theirs.

And yet according to JK his latest album is "basically no1 all over the world".....
Really? Or is that in some specialist music category?

[gmaz]

The Crack Fox said:

I wrote and presented a film about it, if anyone is interested. A fascinating story in detail (and I had a laugh making the film) -

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LLGKbCSlF44

That was way better than the TG Bernie interview segment. TG should do stuff like that.

[p1stonhead]

TTmonkey said:

p1stonhead said:

briang9 said:

Where does Jay Kay get the money from to pay for his impressive car collection? Can't imagine it's from sales of his music, does he have other "strings to his bow"?

Id says its perfectly possible with 25 million albums sold and 10 world tours under his belt.

And yet according to JK his latest album is "basically no1 all over the world".....
Really? Or is that in some specialist music category?

Its currently 21 in the charts in the UK anyway and down from 17 last week....

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart/

[chrispmartha]

TTmonkey said:

p1stonhead said:

briang9 said:

Where does Jay Kay get the money from to pay for his impressive car collection? Can't imagine it's from sales of his music, does he have other "strings to his bow"?

Id says its perfectly possible with 25 million albums sold and 10 world tours under his belt.

It's odd that for such a massive 'superband' I never hear their music, it's rarly on the radio, I don't know anyone that's a fan of their music, no one says they are going to a Jamourquai gig, you don't here their music on adverts etc.... it's like the biggest band that no one seems to be into. Every now and then there's a chart show kind of program with their odd music video on, but other than that..... yet he seems to have far more obvious wealth than bands that had a big following and still have a massive fan base.

Maybe it's hat sales that he gets all his money.

I certainly couldn't name a single album of theirs.

And yet according to JK his latest album is "basically no1 all over the world".....
Really? Or is that in some specialist music category?

It's a big world out there, they are known worldwide and have sold over 30 million albums, he will have made plenty of cash and maybe he's been wise with it.

There will be a lot of bands you've never heard of that are very successful.

[P-Jay]

chrispmartha said:

TTmonkey said:

p1stonhead said:

briang9 said:

Where does Jay Kay get the money from to pay for his impressive car collection? Can't imagine it's from sales of his music, does he have other "strings to his bow"?

Id says its perfectly possible with 25 million albums sold and 10 world tours under his belt.

It's odd that for such a massive 'superband' I never hear their music, it's rarly on the radio, I don't know anyone that's a fan of their music, no one says they are going to a Jamourquai gig, you don't here their music on adverts etc.... it's like the biggest band that no one seems to be into. Every now and then there's a chart show kind of program with their odd music video on, but other than that..... yet he seems to have far more obvious wealth than bands that had a big following and still have a massive fan base.

Maybe it's hat sales that he gets all his money.

I certainly couldn't name a single album of theirs.

And yet according to JK his latest album is "basically no1 all over the world".....
Really? Or is that in some specialist music category?

It's a big world out there, they are known worldwide and have sold over 30 million albums, he will have made plenty of cash and maybe he's been wise with it.

There will be a lot of bands you've never heard of that are very successful.

I guess they're one of those bands with a very loyal established fan base, despite not much exposure these day. That's probably why they're No1 worldwide on 'Album Sales' young people don't really buy albums these days, not unless they're into vinyl, if you consider downloads I doubt they made the top 10.

As above I was a little surprised Jay Kay was still wealthy - I would have guessed that with the bands peak in the 90s long gone and his taste for the expensive things in life he'd be broke these days, or maybe selling off his car collection, he must be doing will out of the current classic car bubble.

Seems not, Times Rich List has him at £40m.

Maybe despite all the nose candy he's a smart guy, I know he missed out on a McLaren F1 new because he invested the money in his own Studio instead, if he writes, produces and records his own stuff he's be making a lot more than the latest Pop Princess.

Edited by P-Jay on Monday 24th April 08:58

[98elise]

TTmonkey said:

p1stonhead said:

briang9 said:

Where does Jay Kay get the money from to pay for his impressive car collection? Can't imagine it's from sales of his music, does he have other "strings to his bow"?

Id says its perfectly possible with 25 million albums sold and 10 world tours under his belt.

It's odd that for such a massive 'superband' I never hear their music, it's rarly on the radio, I don't know anyone that's a fan of their music, no one says they are going to a Jamourquai gig, you don't here their music on adverts etc.... it's like the biggest band that no one seems to be into. Every now and then there's a chart show kind of program with their odd music video on, but other than that..... yet he seems to have far more obvious wealth than bands that had a big following and still have a massive fan base.

Maybe it's hat sales that he gets all his money.

I certainly couldn't name a single album of theirs.

And yet according to JK his latest album is "basically no1 all over the world".....
Really? Or is that in some specialist music category?

I have most of his albums. Its easy listening funk.There is little doubt that have sold lots of records, and he is very wealthy as a result.

As he likes cars, and you like cars it's probably more noticable what he spends his wealth on.

Eddie Jordans yacht probably cost more than JK's car collection.

[hornetrider]

I don't get what everyone's problem is with JK. He's a car nut and produces and sings easy listening funk. OK he's a minor irritant but nothing more. I'm sure I'd have a trace of smug about me if I had his wealth and car collection.

[RemyMartin81D]

hornetrider said:

I don't get what everyone's problem is with JK. He's a car nut and produces and sings easy listening funk. OK he's a minor irritant but nothing more. I'm sure I'd have a trace of smug about me if I had his wealth and car collection.

Jealousy. Pure and simple. I will say sunglasses indoors is fking stupid though.

Fwiw. Last night's episode was bilge.

Watched every episode. Some good moments which showed some promise. Need to bin Harris and Reid if they don't want to lose every non car geek viewer. Overall I think it leaves a lot to be desired and it's only thought of as ' good' on here because TGT was a disappointment and the Evans series was complete shart.

2/10 for last night

5/10 for the whole series

[chrispmartha]

hornetrider said:

I don't get what everyone's problem is with JK. He's a car nut and produces and sings easy listening funk. OK he's a minor irritant but nothing more. I'm sure I'd have a trace of smug about me if I had his wealth and car collection.

I've met him and had a drink with him in Amsterdam, he was really nice as it goes! never been a great fan of his music though.

[ClockworkCupcake]

I like JK and was very much into Jamiroquai back in the 90's when I was into Acid Jazz, but even with the best will in the world he did come across as incredibly smug on Top Gear last night. Gratingly so.

I'm not for one moment suggesting that his success isn't deserved, or I could do better, it's just how he came across to me that's all.

[p1stonhead]

hornetrider said:

I don't get what everyone's problem is with JK. He's a car nut and produces and sings easy listening funk. OK he's a minor irritant but nothing more. I'm sure I'd have a trace of smug about me if I had his wealth and car collection.

I don't get it either but I've only ever seen him interviewed on Top Gear. He's come across fine on those but perhaps other people have seen a lot more of him somewhere?

I don't get it he seems fairly chilled and obviously a proper car person which is all the better.

[Cfnteabag]

The best bit for me was the look on JK's face when it was suggested he would own a Bentaygay!

[P-Jay]

hornetrider said:

I don't get what everyone's problem is with JK. He's a car nut and produces and sings easy listening funk. OK he's a minor irritant but nothing more. I'm sure I'd have a trace of smug about me if I had his wealth and car collection.

I don't mind his music, I can only speak for myself here, but I remember him in the late 90s and early 2000s (via the magic of TV, not in person) back when he was taking too many drugs etc and he was an egotistical knob - picking fights with reporters and being just the most unbearable arrogant wker - the stereotypical coke head. There’s a degree of self-loathing there I think because I’ve had my issues in the past.

The difference is that he’s supposedly clean now, has been for more than a decade, but he’s not lost the arrogance, maybe it’s his oddly monotone speaking voice (for a singer) that hides his humour but the man seems to know no humility or empathy.

I’ve never met him in real life so I don’t know how the real person compares to the media persona, but he does have a habit of rubbing people up the wrong way, the reporter who was known for being one of the calmest nicest people in the business who headbutted him (self-defence M’lud) to the young Chef who set about his Enzo after he was so rude to him.

I’d like to think he’s a nice guy in real life, but this isn’t real life is it – it’s TV.

[otolith]

Cayman review was OK, but didn't say anything that hadn't already been widely said. Couldn't care less about the guest, the off-road thing. The boat was boring. I didn't particularly like it the last time they did it, but at least then the contraptions were amateurish enough to be amusing.

[generationx]

To establish: I have enjoyed this series overall. MLB and CH I enjoy, RR a bit of a fifth wheel. But I thought this episode was one of the weaker ones.

I´´m not really bothered about the Cayman; the offroader was good fun; the cranes bit was filler; JK was inoffensive but (as has already been mentioned) a bit smug; Cuba was alright, at least they were having fun; the EJ + Bernie interview just didn´t seem to fit and anyway EJ bugs the tits off me; the Rodius boat was a bit of a wasted opportunity - Clarkson/Hammond/May/Wilman would have made much more about cocking about and getting stuff wrong, plus their inherent chemistry would have lifted it. Rory in the uniform just looked like a male stripper and they never really mentioned it.

Still, Sunday will be a quieter evening now and I´m actually looking forward to the new series, whereas the next TGT not so much.

[p1stonhead]

generationx said:

To establish: I have enjoyed this series overall. MLB and CH I enjoy, RR a bit of a fifth wheel. But I thought this episode was one of the weaker ones.

I´´m not really bothered about the Cayman; the offroader was good fun; the cranes bit was filler; JK was inoffensive but (as has already been mentioned) a bit smug; Cuba was alright, at least they were having fun; the EJ + Bernie interview just didn´t seem to fit and anyway EJ bugs the tits off me; the Rodius boat was a bit of a wasted opportunity - Clarkson/Hammond/May/Wilman would have made much more about cocking about and getting stuff wrong, plus their inherent chemistry would have lifted it.Rory in the uniform just looked like a male stripper and they never really mentioned it.

Still, Sunday will be a quieter evening now and I´m actually looking forward to the new series, whereas the next TGT not so much.

I 100% disagree with the bold bit. CHM are just painfully obvious these days. The new boys actually made it seem genuine and fun. The fake peril is just ridiculous it's so transparent that it's just not even amusing in the slightest. Their Caribbean episode of TGT was perhaps the most cringeworthy thing I've ever seen.

[generationx]

p1stonhead said:

I 100% disagree with the bold bit. CHM are just painfully obvious these days. The new boys actually made it seem genuine and fun. The fake peril is just ridiculous it's so transparent that it's just not even amusing in the slightest. Their Caribbean episode of TGT was perhaps the most cringeworthy thing I've ever seen.

I was sort of referring to their heyday ten or so years ago rather than the later repeat-to-fade episodes. I was also implying that TGT wasn´t all that, and agreed about the Caribbean skit - the Maserati one too.

[strummerville]

I enjoyed the whole series and looked forward to Sunday nights. Agreed that there were fewer comedic (scripted moments) but I prefer the fact that there aren't caravans getting blown up or skid mark penises being drawn... (oh, and the wanton, ego led vandalism that wrecked a perfectly good Porsche 928 GT in Argentina).

I wish them well with the next series. They must have taken a long hard look at the shouty Evans monster that the show had morphed into and got back to decent cinematography, real car enthusiast presenters and a more grown up approach.