BBC Top Gear 2017 Thread
Discussion
TG is getting better with every episode, MLB is becoming much better as a presenter, CH is getting less arrogant and Rory just seems to be loving life which is good to see. They just don't seem to have the massive egos that the old lot developed. Whilst it's not yet as good as old TG was at its peak, for me it's definitely better than old TG was by the end, it was getting tired and stale and the same old jokes were starting to wear thin for me. Hopefully it'll keep going on the same trajectory
Interestingly, I revisited a few episodes of TGT with my sons last night. We ended up watching the truly woeful reef building one (the 8 year old was on the remote). 8 year old then wanted 'the tank one' on, where Hammond drove up in a variety of 'armour plated' vans and the other two pretended to shoot it. OK, it is good that Clarkson champions the British armed forces, but it's just juvenile destruction.
I never thought I'd say this, but I now much prefer TG. I think CHM need to have a big rethink for the next series. Perhaps put the egos in a locked box and try not to smash everything up that costs less than £10,000?
I never thought I'd say this, but I now much prefer TG. I think CHM need to have a big rethink for the next series. Perhaps put the egos in a locked box and try not to smash everything up that costs less than £10,000?
SAB888 said:
Adam B said:
anyone explain JK's assertion that his SE30 was only of only 3?
Wiki says "Only 150 SE30 models were built, and of these, about 15 were converted to "Jota" specification (although 28 Jota kits were produced)."
unless he was referring to some subset of the 150, eg RHD and purple and owned by a singer who is a bit of a knob
I mentioned this at the top of page 120. There were more than 3 RHD purple cars, so can't be that.Wiki says "Only 150 SE30 models were built, and of these, about 15 were converted to "Jota" specification (although 28 Jota kits were produced)."
unless he was referring to some subset of the 150, eg RHD and purple and owned by a singer who is a bit of a knob
Anyway, I also found this thread from 2014 where there were 5 Jotas for sale at once. Looking down the thread, someone there also says that the pruple one for sale is one of only 3...so that 'fact' must be coming from somewhere...I just cannot find definitive numbers without some contrary info also turning up:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
DonkeyApple said:
Why does CH have the posture of a prison rape victim sobbing in the corner?
It's quite unusual for a shorter chap to have that perma-stoop and rolling in shoulders. It really shouldn't matter in the grand scheme of things but such terrible posture does seem to stand out.
They don't call him Monkey for no reason, he almost did a back flip on the sofa when JK's lap time was read out.It's quite unusual for a shorter chap to have that perma-stoop and rolling in shoulders. It really shouldn't matter in the grand scheme of things but such terrible posture does seem to stand out.
Why have they cut down on the amount of Top Gear we are getting?
So far - 2 years, 2 series and 13 episodes.
CHM - 12 years, 22 series and many of those series have 8, 9, 10 or even 11 episodes (from Wiki) 185 episodes in total. An average of 8.5 episodes per series and nearly 2 series a year.
So far - 2 years, 2 series and 13 episodes.
CHM - 12 years, 22 series and many of those series have 8, 9, 10 or even 11 episodes (from Wiki) 185 episodes in total. An average of 8.5 episodes per series and nearly 2 series a year.
MarshPhantom said:
Why have they cut down on the amount of Top Gear we are getting?
So far - 2 years, 2 series and 13 episodes.
CHM - 12 years, 22 series and many of those series have 8, 9, 10 or even 11 episodes (from Wiki) 185 episodes in total. An average of 8.5 episodes per series and nearly 2 series a year.
Series 23 first aired on 29th May 2016, so two series, 13 episodes, < 1 year. Given the staff upheaval, not a bad effort.So far - 2 years, 2 series and 13 episodes.
CHM - 12 years, 22 series and many of those series have 8, 9, 10 or even 11 episodes (from Wiki) 185 episodes in total. An average of 8.5 episodes per series and nearly 2 series a year.
DJFish said:
What on earth was that Bernie bit all about?
Nothing. Nothing at all. Complete vapour from a man who has just had his empire taken away and wants to remain in the public eye. It seemed desperate to me.I don't think I can recall ever seeing Bernie say anything interesting on telly.
What he did or is doing behind the scenes is one thing, but his public offering was and is pathetic imo.
on topic. I've really enjoyed this series of TG.
80% of a really consistent high quality.
No massive highs that meet the rose tinted good ol' days of CHM and Bolivian road trips
but equally no daft lows of....well the rest of CHMs' stuff.
So for me a consistently good offering.
Game on for CHM to raise their game to match it I say....or produce something fundamentally different....
What he did or is doing behind the scenes is one thing, but his public offering was and is pathetic imo.
on topic. I've really enjoyed this series of TG.
80% of a really consistent high quality.
No massive highs that meet the rose tinted good ol' days of CHM and Bolivian road trips
but equally no daft lows of....well the rest of CHMs' stuff.
So for me a consistently good offering.
Game on for CHM to raise their game to match it I say....or produce something fundamentally different....
Edited by Quickmoose on Friday 28th April 13:22
MarshPhantom said:
Why have they cut down on the amount of Top Gear we are getting?
So far - 2 years, 2 series and 13 episodes.
CHM - 12 years, 22 series and many of those series have 8, 9, 10 or even 11 episodes (from Wiki) 185 episodes in total. An average of 8.5 episodes per series and nearly 2 series a year.
IIRC, a few years back the BBC cut the budget, so they had to reduce the number of shows rather than the quality. Read Porter's book, I think it's in there.So far - 2 years, 2 series and 13 episodes.
CHM - 12 years, 22 series and many of those series have 8, 9, 10 or even 11 episodes (from Wiki) 185 episodes in total. An average of 8.5 episodes per series and nearly 2 series a year.
PhantomPH said:
SAB888 said:
Adam B said:
anyone explain JK's assertion that his SE30 was only of only 3?
Wiki says "Only 150 SE30 models were built, and of these, about 15 were converted to "Jota" specification (although 28 Jota kits were produced)."
unless he was referring to some subset of the 150, eg RHD and purple and owned by a singer who is a bit of a knob
I mentioned this at the top of page 120. There were more than 3 RHD purple cars, so can't be that.Wiki says "Only 150 SE30 models were built, and of these, about 15 were converted to "Jota" specification (although 28 Jota kits were produced)."
unless he was referring to some subset of the 150, eg RHD and purple and owned by a singer who is a bit of a knob
Anyway, I also found this thread from 2014 where there were 5 Jotas for sale at once. Looking down the thread, someone there also says that the pruple one for sale is one of only 3...so that 'fact' must be coming from somewhere...I just cannot find definitive numbers without some contrary info also turning up:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Interesting comments- I found myself enjoying it more and more and think MLB is just the perfect wry , laid back anchor man . I grew so tired of old TG's snarkiness , especially with a mob of an audience who were so star struck they thought Clarkson was the second coming .
Viewing figures? Doesn't keep me awake and is no indicator of quality (the Sun might double The Times ' sales but I know where I want to read my news )
Scripted - but of course . And it always was and it was always obvious - and to nobody's surprise . Nothing you see or hear on 99% in this genre of TV hasn't been scripted and edited .Richard Porter was peerless as a scriptwriter and it's TG loss he's gone -I assume anyway ?
Chris Harris - 'arrogant '? It seems that to some arrogance is the crime of the century but in any case they confuse the need for TV presenters to be larger than life with arrogance . Some fizz is needed to make any show work at all . I find CH just fine - the only one I'd bin is the shrieking German harpie who I find as unwatchable as she is unlistenable .
Viewing figures? Doesn't keep me awake and is no indicator of quality (the Sun might double The Times ' sales but I know where I want to read my news )
Scripted - but of course . And it always was and it was always obvious - and to nobody's surprise . Nothing you see or hear on 99% in this genre of TV hasn't been scripted and edited .Richard Porter was peerless as a scriptwriter and it's TG loss he's gone -I assume anyway ?
Chris Harris - 'arrogant '? It seems that to some arrogance is the crime of the century but in any case they confuse the need for TV presenters to be larger than life with arrogance . Some fizz is needed to make any show work at all . I find CH just fine - the only one I'd bin is the shrieking German harpie who I find as unwatchable as she is unlistenable .
E65Ross said:
kurt535 said:
Finally watched last in Series tonight. Well Done TG. I felt more informed on a whole range of cars than I have for years.
This is what I fear for TG. Being far too car-biased is what led to the demise of "old old" TG. Oh, and Fifth Gear.Smollet said:
E65Ross said:
kurt535 said:
Finally watched last in Series tonight. Well Done TG. I felt more informed on a whole range of cars than I have for years.
This is what I fear for TG. Being far too car-biased is what led to the demise of "old old" TG. Oh, and Fifth Gear.kurt535 said:
What have the figures been like over this series?
Here you are. Admittedly taken early on.http://www.standard.co.uk/stayingin/tvfilm/top-gea...
kurt535 said:
Smollet said:
E65Ross said:
kurt535 said:
Finally watched last in Series tonight. Well Done TG. I felt more informed on a whole range of cars than I have for years.
This is what I fear for TG. Being far too car-biased is what led to the demise of "old old" TG. Oh, and Fifth Gear.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff